Herborizer corner

Once my Grasshopper's sell i'll be joining you all.... and i'm having a hard time, because i'm getting the bubbler, but also crave for the tube and the sphere! I used to own the Sphere (the smaller sized one not XL) and it was SO classy! And now I see they have the tubes with ice pinches...oh my.... what an amazing toy set!

This has to be the classiest vape out there!

biohacker said:

Once my Grasshopper's sell i'll be joining you all.... and i'm having a hard time, because i'm getting the bubbler, but also crave for the tube and the sphere! I used to own the Sphere (the smaller sized one not XL) and it was SO classy! And now I see they have the tubes with ice pinches...oh my.... what an amazing toy set!

This has to be the classiest vape out there!

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Personally i don't see the point in buying their glass... It's nothing super special, and it seems expensive for what it is. You could get nicer pieces for less money.
I already have a nice glass collection and just ordered a Klein and a Fab egg from DH gate, can't wait!

Any recommendations then for something that would match what they sell? Mostly interested in the bubbler.

Why does it have to match? Just go wild, there is enough choice out there!
Personally i used to love beaker bongs for smoke, but the more i vape the more i go towards smaller pieces.

I started with cheap chinese glass, then got more expensive chinese glass, then got some fancy US made glass. In the end, glass is glass. There isn't anything magical about fancy US glass, and chinese glass is just as good, it's really about who blew it, not where.

Just beware of the price increases along the road.

For example this was the first piece i bought:

https://www.grasscity.com/us_en/black-leaf-honeycomb-perc-stemless-glass-ice-tube-ufo-perc-50cm.html

I then realized that that bong could be bought straight from Black Leaf for half the price!

https://www.blackleaf.de/honeycomb-diskmaster/

Last week i discovered DH Gate and bought 2 pieces, straight from China, and could see the same style of bongs go for around $30!
This made me realize that most bongs that you see people rave about going "this is so worth the 300$ i spent for it" are actually $25 pieces with a fancy name on it!
Which is why i now refuse to spend big money on branded glass, unless it's some arty glass.

Thanks, i'm aware of glass and everything about it. I think you're missing my point...the Bubbler is AWESOME, I tried @lazylathe [roor edition] and I want a piece like it, so that's why I want it to be similar in style in function. I have owned the sphere, it is also awesome....just the way it can even be held like a martini glass!

Do you now see why I desire Herbo glass? In all honestly, I don't even think it's that expensive for what you're getting.

It's just that now i can't help but see it as a $30 piece of glass, with a $100 "Herborizer" logo on it...

In the end it's only a sphere shaped bubbler with a 4 hole difuser, not what i would call fancy.
I have a black leaf El Nino which looks like the same volume and same general idea (but with a showerhead), admittedly it is not spherical, but it cost me less than half the price and it is a very nice little bubbler!

https://www.blackleaf.de/black-leaf-glaspfeife-el-ni-o/

@biohacker I see you are over the honeymoon phase with the GH. The Evo did not do it for you either?
Did you also have a Herbie ? I have followed a similar path as yours with regard to vapes. I am teetering on the fence about the Ti herborizer, this replaces my Evo, and my E-nail. Any clues on the best place for a U.S. retailer?? I can ask Sticks if unknown. Hope you can decide on the right glass. I will probably wait to follow a few more reviews of the Ti. By then you should have gotten yours, and I look forward to your impression .

Hey bro, yeah i've owned most vapes out there (multiple times), and whatever I haven't owned i've tried, it's been a decade long case of VAS! It's been a while since I had the Herbo, but from testing at @lazylathe with his XL, I know that the Ti would be an amazing toy to have. And, as usual, if for whatever reason it isn't for me (most aren't!) then it will go to the classifieds!

Not sure about the States, but in Canada there is a distributor about an hour from me, but it's not any cheaper so I think buying straight from the manufacturer may be the best.

Still thinking about that bubbler! Unless I can find a clone on dhgate which I haven't been lucky enough to track down....off to the cheap china glass thread!

I keep seeing VAS a lot lately but I have no idea what it means

Gramin said:

I keep seeing VAS a lot lately but I have no idea what it means

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It's similar to GAS...

VAS - Vaporizer Acquisition Syndrome
GAS - Glass Acquisition Syndrome

These are serious syndromes, not to be taken lightly!
Usually only recognized by the third impulse vape purchase!

Gramin said:

I keep seeing VAS a lot lately but I have no idea what it means

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It's the dreaded Vaporizer Acquisition Syndrome. There are many forms of AS. It's very real and there's no known cure once contracted! There are many sufferers on this forum, but sadly it's still not recognized by any medical journals

Edit: I see @lazylathe has already summed it up quite well

Carlos8400 said:

It's just that now i can't help but see it as a $30 piece of glass, with a $100 "Herborizer" logo on it...

In the end it's only a sphere shaped bubbler with a 4 hole difuser, not what i would call fancy.
I have a black leaf El Nino which looks like the same volume and same general idea (but with a showerhead), admittedly it is not spherical, but it cost me less than half the price and it is a very nice little bubbler!

https://www.blackleaf.de/black-leaf-glaspfeife-el-ni-o/

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I understand why he wants the glass!
There is just something about professionally blown glass.
I used to LOVE my Chinese glass until my RooR tube arrived, it hits so smooth and is just perfect for my style of vaping. It has taken about 15 rigs till i got here and i have not really looked at any other glass since. I will surf to see what's available but never buy anything.
Not sure what i will do if i ever break it!

Also there is something special about owning the whole set, at least for me!
I have tried the RooR Vapor with other WT's but none matched up, it just seems to be a very versatile tube!

Not to mention it's only like $125usd....even less with the purchase of the kit. All the dhgate glass went up, so a piece is around $50+ or so, and doesn't even come close. If there was a clone, i'd buy it! In comparison, VXL hydratubes start at what $150? And they aren't anything special IMO.

I'd love to have the tube, sphere, and bubblers..... drool

Looking forward to the demo tomorrow @lazylathe !

lazylathe said:

I understand why he wants the glass!
There is just something about professionally blown glass.
I used to LOVE my Chinese glass until my RooR tube arrived, it hits so smooth and is just perfect for my style of vaping. It has taken about 15 rigs till i got here and i have not really looked at any other glass since. I will surf to see what's available but never buy anything.
Not sure what i will do if i ever break it!

Also there is something special about owning the whole set, at least for me!
I have tried the RooR Vapor with other WT's but none matched up, it just seems to be a very versatile tube!

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@lazylathe Yeah it seems really nice, im pretty sure they sell the Body on its own, at least the german site does

http://roor.de/vapor-body-p-124.html


How tall is the Roor Vapor Body, if you dont mind me asking? I feel they could give a bit more Info on a 300 Euro purchase themselves xD

mephisto said:

I am teetering on the fence about the Ti herborizer, this replaces my Evo, and my E-nail.

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If you are a dab snob the Ti e-nail will not replace any true enail cause 3 mains reasons:

- you can't switch to another tastier component as quartz, sic,...
- you can't adjust 100% precisly the dial and you don't have any t° reading feedback for t° drops while dabbing.
- It's not designed for large globs, not an issue for me though...

I'm still using my enail much more than the Herborizer Ti one although I'm more flower inclined and i found convenient to keep my Ti in flower mode.

Thanks for the clarity, @PPN . Maybe I will wait a bit, I do not dab that often and I am spoiled by the Sic Liger V2. Never use my Evo anymore either. VAS has been averted for now.....

Finally ma keyboard unbroke @biohacker missed your offer mate but i am going to keep my classic for now and wait a bit longer for this glass gauze as i am in the same position as you and you need to be patient and buy one and strive for glass. Last night i used some nice blonde kief and i could see it bubble and melt on the surface i never saw this before and i have owned this a year heh! The Glass Gauze must be bought alongside spare o rings so you never need to go back to them.

Now then do i want another bubbler? Well the first classic one they had i got for 399 euro i think all in and this is 200 below the RooR but missing the diffuser. Now do you want more diffusion? I personally use these with 1-2mm just above the basic 4 hole percs for flavour as this is what this vape was all about hence wanting a glass gauze over steel and less water. I notice also the mouthpeice will get very cloudy so i was thinking of a straight up toss between a straight RooR or the Herbo Bubbler which is now smaller than the old one with the classic. The RooR bubbler though must be 25cm or so i think it may just be a tad big and i think 18mm is too big also because it looks out of place when the downstem is 14mm. It looks like a bulge that probably does not aid aerodynamic flow much either. https://azarius.net/outlet/vaporizer-roor-vapor/#

Also if this is concentrates, Then i am going to also seek them to do the 14mm version joints so it would probably be a straight fight between 14mm Herbo bubbler roughly 100 euro or a 35cm T 35mm D 3.5mm Wall tube from RooR with a normal non diffused 14mm downstem for a 14mm Ti Herbo. All without stickers of course. I think on efficency and flavour the RooR straight would win maybe? What you think guys who owns bongs and bubblers and the Herborizers? Tube or Bubbler?

@skaav

The tube is around 13 inches tall.
Perfect height when I am sitting down.

Going back a bit, I agree with you @biohacker , I do really like the look of that little bubbler with the Ti. If I was rich I would get both the VHW from Vriptech with the perK, and the herbo Ti.

So when I am ready to decide I will still be torn. I think if I went for the Ti it would be a much better and stronger effect on low temps than the xl, which would be great for my allergies.

I do find my xl to he much more chest aggravating throuh a small bubbler though with low water volume.
I fill the sphere half way, and the extra depth really cools the vapor a lot. The Verdamper was super deep and even cooler, but still rough for me.

Whatever happens, I want to get a glass bong of sorts with ice notches. So I could use the small Ti bubbler for pleasant, easy and strong low temp hits, and an ice otch bong for heavier higher temp hits.

I can see this vaporizer working well for me there with versatility.

Its just back to the whole idea that possibly, the VHW may improve my allergic reaction to vaping, due to the while neutral polarity thing. Kind of like the VHW makes the most sense for me in a way.

@lazylathe thanks a bunch, im really intrested in getting it since id like some NICE glass, not just functional, althoug its probably best to just get the basic set of azarius for 330 then xD

@rodders83 I dont think the bulge will have a negative impact on airflow, Roor are like really pretty fuckin competent glassblowers and would have avoided it if it was detrimental, thats at least how much id trust Roor from prior experience


Is maybe anybody intrested in a untouched, Roor branded Basic Herborizer? for cheapsies (no bubbler obviously ^^)

Alexis said:

VHW from Vriptech with the perK

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Had it, actually had all their glass pieces. The vape is pretty awesome, although it is the worst vape for me for sneezing (I think due to massive influx of terpenes). I didn't like the glass, I found it hugely restricting for airflow.

Alexis said:

Kind of like the VHW makes the most sense for me in a way.

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I could smell solder on mine...not saying it's in the airpath but it put me off a little. With that said, i'd buy another and am planning to as well. But first the Herbo Ti w/ Bubbler!

biohacker said:

Had it, actually had all their glass pieces. The vape is pretty awesome, although it is the worst vape for me for sneezing (I think due to massive influx of terpenes). I didn't like the glass, I found it hugely restricting for airflow.

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Thanks for that insight I really appreciate it.
Yeah I know you had the VHW. Thats how I "met" you actually, reading that thread ages ago. I will take on board what you say. I have been really curious actually how you seasoned pros (including Lazylathe) regard the VHW alongside some of the newer vapes.

And its the fact that you all seem to have moved on from it and never mention it makes me wonder if it isnt so good after all. But Im sure practucality, fragility and cost are involved.

I will heed your comments on the restrictive glass. I could always just get the wand and bowl from Europe and a glass ice bong from dhgate. WAY cheaper that way, and maybe further down the line, the Ti herbo.

You are right, for me practicality, fragility, and cost were definitely involved, but in hindsight I wish I still had just the wand and bowl. In fact, it's so versatile that it works well with LSV WPA's as well. Great glass connoisseur level vape, as is the Herborizer. This vapes are just so sadly underrated IMO.

@bleak - fucking stellar job as always! thanks so much!

Any reason to have an XL as well as a Ti? I know the XL holds more, and takes longer to extract, but there is a time and a place for that too! Or would it be redundant?

Can owners of both chime in? I would have thought the Ti would have replaced the XL so unless Sebastien has a load of stock he wants to dump, i'm not sure why else it's still kicking? Can anyone explain?