CCA Liger banger V3.0

damm

Well-Known Member
Now that we're on the Clean Machine with these last few posts, anyone got a good trick for getting the Krusties off of the Ti pieces without messing up the anodizing? Specifically, I get a ring of brown crust where my carb cap meets the bucket if I'm not diligent about wiping down the carb cap every few dabs. It's more of a stain so can't scrape it, but ISO does not lift it off. Ideas?

I tried the same method as cleaning the insert (91% iso and a few drops of distilled water) and that did slightly help the brown crust. But I found some of it's just really on hard and I can't even budge it

Doesn't bother me just an annoying small bits here and there above my insert a little
 
damm,

papapotbelly

Well-Known Member
I tried the same method as cleaning the insert (91% iso and a few drops of distilled water) and that did slightly help the brown crust. But I found some of it's just really on hard and I can't even budge it

Doesn't bother me just an annoying small bits here and there above my insert a little

Yeah, same, no function or flavor issues, just looks gross (I'm somewhat of a clean freak :-) )
 
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herbivore21

Well-Known Member
I tried the same method as cleaning the insert (91% iso and a few drops of distilled water) and that did slightly help the brown crust. But I found some of it's just really on hard and I can't even budge it

Doesn't bother me just an annoying small bits here and there above my insert a little
Any of the methods I suggested in my last post will take care of this. I use 70% iso and scrubbing to get most of the carbonized layer off of my sapphire. Steam/autoclave/ultrasonic cleaner if stains get too carbonized and stubborn.

Yeah, same, no function or flavor issues, just looks gross (I'm somewhat of a clean freak :-) )
As above, I have suggested several methods guaranteed to make your inserts look like new every time (I have sapphire and SiC and neither has visibly aged a day :) ).
 
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herbivore21

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Can the sapphire and SiC inserts be cleaned in PBW from cold?
Possibly, but I never had any success with PBW over iso and the above methods (steam, autoclave and ultrasonic cleaner) each IMO are superior methods.

SiC should be cleaned with a blowtorch. Find a piece of stainless steel or tempered glass or similar, place your SiC insert on top and torch the hell out of the insert til it looks like new :) Do not torch the titanium components or other inserts!
 

papapotbelly

Well-Known Member
As above, I have suggested several methods guaranteed to make your inserts look like new every time (I have sapphire and SiC and neither has visibly aged a day :) ).

Thanks, Herbivore - but my inserts are actually shiny like the crab in Moana, I have lots of tricks for those like you.

It's the Ti components giving me grief. Specifically the top of the big bucket where it hits the carb cap on the 30mm. Same tricks to try? Steam, autoclave, or ultrasonic?

Thanks!
 

herbivore21

Well-Known Member
Thanks, Herbivore - but my inserts are actually shiny like the crab in Moana, I have lots of tricks for those like you.

It's the Ti components giving me grief. Specifically the top of the big bucket where it hits the carb cap on the 30mm. Same tricks to try? Steam, autoclave, or ultrasonic?

Thanks!
Sorry I should have phrased that slightly differently. What I mean is the above tricks are what will get your titanium completely clean like new :)
 
herbivore21,

VapourHaze

Rexcornish on IG, Vaping since '02
Joined team liger .. Got a new 16mm .. Would have preferred the 20mm but was having issues finding compatible coils for my UK enail.

Actually 16 is totally fine as a daily driver And i seem to get massive hits from tiny dabs with the sic insert so not a problem atm. (I have the quartz also but haven't tried it yet!)

No problems out the box everything machined properly .. Quite surprised people struggling to put these together its pretty simple.

Using a big directional flow cap from spiraleye glass which works fine .. Don't need dirrectional with such a small insert it just pools regardless.

Saw people asking about EU distributers I got mine from patientnumberzero in the uk. I don't think he's a member on here on fc. I know he has more in stock but limited quantities.

Cheers all
 

mrbonsai420

Accessory Maker
Accessory Maker
Now that we're on the Clean Machine with these last few posts, anyone got a good trick for getting the Krusties off of the Ti pieces without messing up the anodizing? Specifically, I get a ring of brown crust where my carb cap meets the bucket if I'm not diligent about wiping down the carb cap every few dabs. It's more of a stain so can't scrape it, but ISO does not lift it off. Ideas?

The inserts are pretty easy to keep clean, especially the sic. But be aware, Sapphire is prone to thermal shock. If you use any cleaning tech that uses heat and liquid with these error on the side of safe and start cold and go up no higher than 250. It's rare but you will eventually crack it when you misjudge your insert temp. your coil can be at 250 but that sapphire is still sitting at 350 due to it's outstanding thermal properties after you turned it down, and when you drop the water on it, crackle city. Just FYI.

Now we are talking Ti cleaning, That's a little more up to the user. The only thing I have found is after I get the bulk of it off with Iso & water there is still a little bit of crud that I either have to work like hell on with a magic eraser or say fuck the color of the top of my bucket and torch it! LOL
I do find playing with a little heat, some solvent (iso or simple green maybe?) and some elbow grease, things seem to come clean much easier. A magic eraser can help get the tough stuff.

Joined team liger .. Got a new 16mm .. Would have preferred the 20mm but was having issues finding compatible coils for my UK enail.

Actually 16 is totally fine as a daily driver And i seem to get massive hits from tiny dabs with the sic insert so not a problem atm. (I have the quartz also but haven't tried it yet!)

No problems out the box everything machined properly .. Quite surprised people struggling to put these together its pretty simple.

Using a big directional flow cap from spiraleye glass which works fine .. Don't need dirrectional with such a small insert it just pools regardless.

Saw people asking about EU distributers I got mine from patientnumberzero in the uk. I don't think he's a member on here on fc. I know he has more in stock but limited quantities.

Cheers all

Glad you like it man! Majority of Liger adopters are extremely pleased and I am glad you like the 16mm. I use mine on my smaller rigs and travel setup. And I like it with the 10mm adapters. Yeah the 20mm performs a little better but the 16mm is no slouch and most people like to medicate economically and don't worry about Globs!
And Unfortunately on Forums you get a lot of people who actually use them to work out issues and problems they are having with products. But very few people make accounts or even post when everything just works and they are happy with the product. You don't hear from most of those happy peeps ;) So it's great to hear from you!
 
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OC513

Dabaholic
I must have been one of the luckier ones as my Liger is a beast, the storm cell cap creates the best seal I have ever experienced. I use one hole open and for me its perfect. It is more restrictive than any cap I have ever used. Overall I am a very happy camper. It looks badass and functions like a beast. So glad I made the leap to an enail and the Liger, I had no idea how much I hated torching and the cool down wait. Dabs on demand is where its at and oh the flavor from my Liger with SiC insert.
 

damm

Well-Known Member
The inserts are pretty easy to keep clean, especially the sic. But be aware, Sapphire is prone to thermal shock. If you use any cleaning tech that uses heat and liquid with these error on the side of safe and start cold and go up no higher than 250. It's rare but you will eventually crack it when you misjudge your insert temp. your coil can be at 250 but that sapphire is still sitting at 350 due to it's outstanding thermal properties after you turned it down, and when you drop the water on it, crackle city. Just FYI.

I noticed the website now lists 225? is that due to Sapphire or just new directions?

Once the E-nail is at 225°, take your Distilled water dropper & carefully apply 1 drop at a time directly into the insert (Be-careful! It likes to quickly overfill!) {USE Q-TIPS IN CASE OF OVERFLOW}
 
damm,

VapourHaze

Rexcornish on IG, Vaping since '02
@mrbonsai420

Thanks yes I'm guilty of that in the homegrown logs thread .. Active on the thread until I got one and then disappeared happy as Larry :)

Yes 16 insert is small but super effective .. Great as a daily driver and gives me an excuse to use my bangers if I want a bigger glob.

I Asked patient number zero (uk supplier) about CCA making a sapphire 16 insert? Any idea if that's plausible?

Cheers
 
VapourHaze,
My 20mm with SiC is out for delivery today! I should have it, and hopefully up and running, within about 3 hours.

What carb cap are you planning on using with it? I skipped over the Storm Cell/Hurricane in favor of the ChadBro TerpTrunk, for now.

I ordered a Storm Cell! I have seen the TerpTrunk though. The wineglass looking one?

I am very new to e-nails (this is my first banger) and so I figured I'd keep it all CCA.

When did you order and how long did it take?
 

Armerad

Dabbin'
I ordered a Storm Cell! I have seen the TerpTrunk though. The wineglass looking one?

I am very new to e-nails (this is my first banger) and so I figured I'd keep it all CCA.

When did you order and how long did it take?
I ordered on February 10th late at night (a Friday, in case you're not looking at a calendar) so my first true business day of ordering was probably February 13th. I then got an email on February 21st that my package was on its way. So a pretty quick turnaround, all things considered! I got the Gold color, for what it's worth.

Here's the instagram page of the guy who makes the TerpTrunks, he has some neat colored ones too if you're feeling fancy. https://www.instagram.com/p/BQyeh_4FgTK/?taken-by=chadbroglass
I bought my TerpTrunk from TheDabLab.com during their Valentine's day sale but they must be out of stock now as they removed all their Terp Trunk listings.
 

Danksta

Well-Known Member
Damn just my luck I get paid and no one has the Terp Trunk in stock.

No worries, I'm digging the Storm more and more as I use it.

I had emailed Josh, but haven't heard back yet about a question I had.

Did he play with a wicking surface? How hard would that be make happen? Could existing inserts be modified?

The only gripe I truly have atm is the fact the oil runs to the sides. I have to take very small dabs and aim for the center of my 30mm if I don't want that to happen. I think these inserts are too smooth.

Really curious about this. I personally want a wicked insert. I feel that's why the Dnail is the better nail.
 

brucee10

Well-Known Member
Damn just my luck I get paid and no one has the Terp Trunk in stock.

No worries, I'm digging the Storm more and more as I use it.

I had emailed Josh, but haven't heard back yet about a question I had.

Did he play with a wicking surface? How hard would that be make happen? Could existing inserts be modified?

The only gripe I truly have atm is the fact the oil runs to the sides. I have to take very small dabs and aim for the center of my 30mm if I don't want that to happen. I think these inserts are too smooth.

Really curious about this. I personally want a wicked insert. I feel that's why the Dnail is the better nail.

My local glass shop posted a bunch on Instagram the day mine came in. You could try to call them and see what they have.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BQmY__vDAOW/
 

Armerad

Dabbin'
My local glass shop posted a bunch on Instagram the day mine came in. You could try to call them and see what they have.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BQmY__vDAOW/
Those aren't ChadBro TerpTrunks, they're made by @professorglass. It's hard to tell without a reference point for size or proper measurements, but the diameter of the flat part on those looks too small relative the handle/directional airflow piece. So either the flat part is too small to maneuver on the 30mm bangers, or the airflow piece is quite large and not very restrictive; I get the impression a lot of people are seeking maximum restriction for their carb caps.

Of course, they may be great. IDK :2c:
 

Armerad

Dabbin'
So, my Liger got here! I had some trouble with dissassembling and reassembling it for cleaning, as the bottom most piece likes to get stuck on the interior chamber piece of the Liger, meaning that the chamber piece will unscrew from the top of the banger rather than the base. I'm still not sure if I have the bottom piece fully threaded on as there a small gap.

I have my Liger heatsoaking to 640*F at the moment, with a stretched out coil on the 20mm SiC. I'll let y'all know how it goes and if I need to troubleshoot the threading further.
 
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