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Did Florida go full legal ;)

MinnBobber

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So, did FL go full legal? :)

How else can you explain this:

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Colas for sale at Checkers----yes?
And drive thru available--give me a cheeseburger, fries , and a big ol Super Lemon Haze cola.

Wishful thnking, if Florida was more "civilized", right @ataxian ?
Maybe I'd go to the "foot long cola store" ;)
 

ataxian

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So, did FL go full legal? :)

How else can you explain this:

FL%20Checkers.jpg


Colas for sale at Checkers----yes?
And drive thru available--give me a cheeseburger, fries , and a big ol Super Lemon Haze cola.

Wishful thnking, if Florida was more "civilized", right @ataxian ?
Maybe I'd go to the "foot long cola store" ;)
I was trading stock during the 90's.
CHECKER drive-in was my biggest fastest loss.
I got out and invested in property instead.

I hope they can make something good out of it?

@MinnBobber COLAS = CIVILIZED

DRIVE - THRU = GOOD IDEAL
 

rodders83

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I was trading stock during the 90's.
CHECKER drive-in was my biggest fastest loss.
I got out and invested in property instead.

I hope they can make something good out of it?

@MinnBobber COLAS = CIVILIZED

DRIVE - THRU = GOOD IDEAL

Sugar tax will mean soon we will have one cola too expensive and small and the other illegal. It will be the day civilization ends here i tells ye.
 

ataxian

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Sugar tax will mean soon we will have one cola too expensive and small and the other illegal. It will be the day civilization ends here i tells ye.
When I lived in FRANCE it was more important the Quality than the Quantity?

When I returned to the states they had Big Gulps at 7/11 and Corn Syrup in place of Cane Sugar?

The population became obese? (in general)
Free Soda is dangerous!

CANNABIS is safer than MILK even!

Dumb Asses!

Can we be CIVILIZED?
 

rodders83

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@ataxian So i forgot about them not getting the real narcotic sugar you have to go to Mexico from memory? Hmm California it is then fully legal good weather proper cola at the border? You think they could lunk a Mexican big gulp with 100% real sugar over Trumps wall?

Also the biggest with cane sugar i see now is 1.75l. How long until the biggest is 1L? Hands off the big Cola please! :(
 
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CarolKing

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Florida cannabis patients try to stand up for your rights. You voted for medical cannabis, now your lawmakers are trying to screw you over with a terrible patient cannabis bill. I can't believe all the BS!!!! :rant: If they don't allow vaporizing and edibles for medical cannabis patients, I would vote the A - holes out of office. They don't deserve to represent the people of Florida.:2c:

Florida House medical marijuana bill bad for patients | Opinion - Sun Sentinel - Florida Dispensaries & Doctors
https://fldispensaries.com › florida-house...
1 day ago - As a patient advocate I believe that medical cannabis can and should play a role in patient care. I would like to comment on the recent piece of pending legislation offered by State Rep. Ray Rodrigues ...
 
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Baron23

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Florida cannabis patients try to stand up for your rights. You voted for medical cannabis, now your lawmakers are trying to screw you over with a terrible patient cannabis bill. I can't believe all the BS!!!! :rant: If they don't allow vaporizing and edibles for medical cannabis patients, I would vote the A - holes out of office. They don't deserve to represent the people of Florida.:2c:

Florida House medical marijuana bill bad for patients | Opinion - Sun Sentinel - Florida Dispensaries & Doctors
https://fldispensaries.com › florida-house...
1 day ago - As a patient advocate I believe that medical cannabis can and should play a role in patient care. I would like to comment on the recent piece of pending legislation offered by State Rep. Ray Rodrigues ...
You tell 'em, Carol, 'specially the part about kicking those bums out of office and making them work for a living :clap:

Another article on the same subject.

Florida Medical Marijuana Bill Would Outlaw Smokable and Edible Cannabis
 

ataxian

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@ataxian So i forgot about them not getting the real narcotic sugar you have to go to Mexico from memory? Hmm California it is then fully legal good weather proper cola at the border? You think they could lunk a Mexican big gulp with 100% real sugar over Trumps wall?

Also the biggest with cane sugar i see now is 1.75l. How long until the biggest is 1L? Hands off the big Cola please! :(
In the USA we make a lot of CORN.
We figured out how to make CORN SYRUP from our waste + cheaper than SUCROSE.

The bigger problem like @CarolKing noted is CANNABIS LAWS?

Where do we stand in general?

Not there yet?

CANNABIS is safer than MILK?
 
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rodders83

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In the USA we make a lot of CORN.
We figured out how to make CORN SYRUP from our waste + cheaper than SUCROSE.

The bigger problem like @CarolKing noted is CANNABIS LAWS?

Where do we stand in general?

Not there yet?

CANNABIS is safer than MILK?

Still inferior to sugar in taste apparantly, More natural than drinking milk.

Also the Cannabis laws are the same all over Carol we have a woman here telling us you only get MJ with some weird 6 month only approval, I think the title of the person is so fucked up and long i forget thier actual title.

I bet the sucker must of spent half his life in medical univiersity to get such a long title, And doesnt know a fucking thing about cannabis and never used in it his life. It is the same in Florida and bunch of clueless gimps who never used Cannabis trying to dictate about it.

Look up what intolerant means, They are intolerant scum.
 
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You tell 'em, Carol, 'specially the part about kicking those bums out of office and making them work for a living :clap:

Another article on the same subject.

Florida Medical Marijuana Bill Would Outlaw Smokable and Edible Cannabis
Holy fucking shit! Banning vaporization unless you are terminally ill? Why? What on earth could be the reason? Are they trying to say that unless you are already dying, vaping cannabis is too dangerous? Do they even understand the many different ways of vaping cannabis and the varying safety of different devices and methods? Are there any studies being used to support this view? I have not seen any such scholarly evidence!

Edibles are problematic for many patients due to the slow onset and the unwanted side effects of certain cannabis actives passing through the stomach (microbial and thermal oxidative decomposition means that the psychoactive compounds are changed in your stomach acid before getting absorbed and taking effect) and are less well tolerated than other ways of administering cannabis medicine (more reports of anxiety, paranoia and other such discomfort), not that I think this merits banning them (they still work very well for some and can be very cheaply made!), but vaporization? This seems very poorly considered and definitely not anything derived from scientific research that I know of!

@rodders83 some of us here are research scholars with fancy titles. I am one of them. We work FUCKING HARD to get to this position and many of us gave up a decade of our working lives just to get qualified! We are not all out of touch dicks living in ivory towers.

As you know, I spend a lot of time helping other people around these parts. Obviously, I know a hell of a lot about cannabis. I have developed this understanding of cannabis that allows me to help my own medical needs and also to give advice to others around here precisely because of my scholarly education as a scientist - without which I would have never been equipped to know what I know now! Don't deride an entire discipline of hard working scientists just because you disagree with one such researchers' alleged/stated views. We don't all think the same and we are so commonly misrepresented in the media (almost ALL journalists have negligible scientific literacy)!

By the way - you'll find that most people who spent many years at a college/university may have had a chance to get familiar with cannabis brother ;)

Cannabis needs more input from scholars who understand it, not less. That is what will see proper legalization and regulation for safety and quality.
 

ataxian

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Still inferior to sugar in taste apparantly, More natural than drinking milk.

Also the Cannabis laws are the same all over Carol we have a woman here telling us you only get MJ with some weird 6 month only approval, I think the title of the person is so fucked up and long i forget thier actual title.

I bet the sucker must of spent half his life in medical univiersity to get such a long title, And doesnt know a fucking thing about cannabis and never used in it his life. It is the same in Florida and bunch of clueless gimps who never used Cannabis trying to dictate about it.

Look up what intolerant means, They are intolerant scum.
{WINE; BEER; SCOTCH} Were the first approved by the Western EUROPEANS.

CANNABIS is safer than MILK? WTF = SOMEONE is GULLIBLE?
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Easing pain the CIVILIZED WAY!
@rodders83 when I lived in VERSAILLES, FRANCE I learn to drink WINE.
In EUROPE IN GENERAL it seemed like everyone was mixing TOBACCO with CANNABIS? As a CALIFORNIAN I found the practice very lame?

However the CHATEAUX MARGAUX was not hard to love! (GRAND CRU)
I was in FRANCE for 5 years = CIVILIZED minus the CANNABIS CULTURE

CANNABIS should be legal! (GLOBALLY)
 
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Baron23

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Holy fucking shit! Banning vaporization unless you are terminally ill? Why? What on earth could be the reason? Are they trying to say that unless you are already dying, vaping cannabis is too dangerous? Do they even understand the many different ways of vaping cannabis and the varying safety of different devices and methods? Are there any studies being used to support this view? I have not seen any such scholarly evidence!

Hello @herbivore21 , my friend. Its not scholars or even factual knowledge that is in play here. Its politicians and politics. This travesty of proposed regulations, purporting to interpret the FL constitution amendment while in fact gutting it, is being put forth and championed by the FL legislature's Speaker of the House.

The issue is arrogance and mendacity. Arrogance on the part of our professional political class to the point that they feel entitled to directly opposed a democratically approved referendum. That arrogance, coupled with the professional political class's overweening abundance of mendacity results in them to try to pull this kind of crap and lie to the electorate all the while looking them straight in the face.

Professional political class......all of whom should all be 86'd IMO.:goon::rant::bang::goon::horse:
 
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rodders83

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Holy fucking shit! Banning vaporization unless you are terminally ill? Why? What on earth could be the reason? Are they trying to say that unless you are already dying, vaping cannabis is too dangerous? Do they even understand the many different ways of vaping cannabis and the varying safety of different devices and methods? Are there any studies being used to support this view? I have not seen any such scholarly evidence!

Edibles are problematic for many patients due to the slow onset and the unwanted side effects of certain cannabis actives passing through the stomach (microbial and thermal oxidative decomposition means that the psychoactive compounds are changed in your stomach acid before getting absorbed and taking effect) and are less well tolerated than other ways of administering cannabis medicine (more reports of anxiety, paranoia and other such discomfort), not that I think this merits banning them (they still work very well for some and can be very cheaply made!), but vaporization? This seems very poorly considered and definitely not anything derived from scientific research that I know of!

@rodders83 some of us here are research scholars with fancy titles. I am one of them. We work FUCKING HARD to get to this position and many of us gave up a decade of our working lives just to get qualified! We are not all out of touch dicks living in ivory towers.

As you know, I spend a lot of time helping other people around these parts. Obviously, I know a hell of a lot about cannabis. I have developed this understanding of cannabis that allows me to help my own medical needs and also to give advice to others around here precisely because of my scholarly education as a scientist - without which I would have never been equipped to know what I know now! Don't deride an entire discipline of hard working scientists just because you disagree with one such researchers' alleged/stated views. We don't all think the same and we are so commonly misrepresented in the media (almost ALL journalists have negligible scientific literacy)!

By the way - you'll find that most people who spent many years at a college/university may have had a chance to get familiar with cannabis brother ;)

Cannabis needs more input from scholars who understand it, not less. That is what will see proper legalization and regulation for safety and quality.

I know it is just this one fucker holding up MJ for everyone else is absurd in my opinion you simply cannot create a false construct like a title and then use that to dictate to everyone else.

There are good people out there who had to work to get such titles i know, Sorry but they make me mad bro doing this! :(
 
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This week, Florida is back in the news, as the House of Representatives passed a new bill that bans people from smoking medical marijuana.

Florida bans smoking weed
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Even though more than 72 percent of voters statewide voted to legalize medicinal marijuana for people with “debilitating diseases” (a term that includes cancer, Alzheimer’s and AIDS), the Florida House of Representatives still passed its own series of rules, regulating the state’s new medical weed industry.

Don’t get me wrong, they made significant improvements, because even the second and third versions of the bill kept getting worse. But this is still a fatally flawed piece of legislation. – Ben Pollara, policy director for United for Care

The Republican-crafted bill bans smokable weed, along with creating a state-controlled cartel of legal cannabis farms, was passed with 105-9 margin.

Last year, voters passed constitutional Amendment 2 to legalize medical marijuana, but the new law mandated that legislators write a set of rules governing exactly how Floridians can smoke medicinal weed. The initial results, first seen in February, were just as bad as expected, too.

The original text of the House Bill 1397 banned all forms of smokable, edible, and vape-able weed, which would have most ask, just how would you ingest it?

Public outcry
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Due to the outcry from patient advocacy groups, the House lawmakers amended the bill to legalize marijuana edibles and vaporizers for qualifying patients.

We have to make it legal and available to Florida residents, but we have to do it in such a way that it complies to the guidance we’ve been given by the federal government. – Ray Rodrigues, House sponsor and Republican Leader

It didn’t stop there, though, as the House’s rules require a doctor to provide formal “prescriptions” for medicinal marijuana, opposed to “recommendations” that advocates prefer – and it is the former that will be the problem for all. See, since marijuana is still illegal at the federal level, those doctors who do “prescribe” it are at risk of losing their FDA licenses.

That’s not the only damage that the bill has done, as it also gives out only a small number of licenses for farmers to grow, which has seen what some have called a “legal pot cartel” in Florida, whose members can work together to set prices and avoid competing with one another.


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