Looking into a desktop whip based vaporizer

TwistedGray

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I went back 11 pages and couldn't find anything too helpful (only one other thread but it was only somewhat related).

Budget: $200 +/-

Style: Desktop

Bags or Whips: Whip only

Material: Herb only

Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Vitolo

Vaporist
My vote would be for .....
Silver Surfer with a standard Heater Cover, and the Hand held wand (whip and mouthpiece come with it)
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or
A Vapor Brothers Original Box unit (VB1)
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howie105

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Another 7th Floor user here with a couple of options you could look at. The Life Sabre Vaporizer (LSV) and the Da Buddha Vaporizer from 7th Floor. Both of them share many of the same parts and functions as the Silver Surfer but with different presentations and ergonomics. The differences make for a range of different strengths and weaknesses to be matched against your vapeing style and needs.
Also if you watch the company site they list scratch and dent units at significant discounts every so often also the Company Representative for FC community has a discount code to use at the company site. Good Luck
 

Vitolo

Vaporist
Good sense, @howie105 .. 7th floor is a great company, and their units last forever.
LSV , though does not fit into the categories Desktop and whip only.
My bad for not listing Da Buddha, but I was going for my faves!;)
I went right for the SSV because it has less of a learning curve for a new vaporist, and glass on glass (wand being left in the unit) can lead to breakage. (hence my recommendation of hand held as opposed to Glass on Glass connection.
@little maggie The "Q" will do!
 

little maggie

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Da Buddha is less expensive and is bag only. Because a vaporizer is older doesn't mean it's not good.
And Arizer has the V tower which is the least expensive that fits your criteria. I think it's all glass path and they sell it at PIU which gives FC members a discount. So under $150 and great customer service from PIU.
I like the bag option of the EQ and with Ddaves mods it is a great and inexpensive machine. I am mostly using my vaporbrothers now that I have one but it doesn't meet your criteria.
 
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Vitolo

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Please do not take offense at my post...
  • Actually the DBV is whip only.
  • Vapor Brothers unit does surely fit the criteria.
The name of the thread that @TwistedGray started is "Looking into a desktop whip based vaporizer"
 
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little maggie

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Thanks for the correction. I meant to say whip only. I have a slow brain since I stopped working. If the vapor brothers fits that would be my first choice. It is incredibly simple and very powerful. I use very small amounts in my vapes and noticed an immediate difference with the vapor brothers box.
 
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little maggie

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Hi @TwistedGray - any reason to not get an Enano with a GonG and build/buy a whip. You can use it with a whip or just invert over your glass piece.

Just a thought. Priced well, works very well, very efficient, very flexible in its use.
Or an underdog. I use my UD more than the enano although I may be in the minority. It came with several stems of choice included and I like those options.
 

muunch

hotboxing the cockpit
Underdog + FC-UFO or MFLB Orbiter has my vote. Sure you could rig something up with the silicone tubing they offer + a screen. The challenge would be keeping the dog inverted without pinching the tubing but I'm sure it's do-able
 

TwistedGray

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Arizer V-Tower vs Q Extreme
and
Vaporbrothers VB1 handsfree vs non-handsfree

I've come to like the Arizer product line, so I'm leaning towards that. It seems that the V-Tower (or Extreme Q?) or the handsfree VB1 are my top two choices.
 
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Vaporhead99

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Have you decided yet TwistedGray?

I am in a similar situation to you but without a budget limit, I am looking for:

Style: Convection Desktop
Bag or Whip: Whip
Material: Herb only
Price: Any

I already have an EQ with Ddaves mods as my only desktop (I have 4 portables as well) but having not used the bag function for over 2 years I now want a better whip style desktop, after a few days deliberation I have almost decided that a Silver surfer will be the 6th vape in my collection however the Herbalizer is lingering in my thoughts making me doubt myself.

I also want a log style vape however being UK based I will get myself a log later in the year once I have researched the different types more, for now a second powerful, efficient whip style desktop is next on my list.

Let us know what you decide on TwistedGray, I'll definitely be ordering number 6 this weekend :tup:
 

cybrguy

Putin is a War Criminal
Again I am stunned that nobody has brought up the Herbalaire. It was my first vape and was/is GREAT with bags (if you want that), direct draw, whipped AND turned over into a water piece. As my first vape it allowed me to sample nearly all the methods of vaping and figure out how I wanted to consume.

The only real downside for MY Herbalaire use is that it is primarily a session vape, and I have become much more enamored with taking a couple hits and coming back for more later without any waste. I got in the habit of tipping the crucible (bowl) out of the vape when I wanted to stop rather than letting it keep heating so I managed that issue just fine.

I still use my Herbalaire when I have several people over, as session vapes are great for that, but for consuming by myself, which I do much of the time, I prefer something more manageable that give me the ability to easily stop where I want.

So, if a desktop whip vape is specifically what you want, I think an Herbalaire may be a very good choice for you. And they are all but indestructible.
 

Prolusio

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Arizer V-Tower vs Q Extreme

Since your criteria was for whip only out of those two I'd pick the V Tower.. If you're interested in doing bags as well as whips get the EQ.

I've had both the Arizer EQ and the SSV. I don't think you'd be disappointed with either of those vapes! Both produced by excellent companies, both deliver potent vapour, both are very durable. That being said I preferred the SSV.

It is more customizable; both itself and the glass. Has different heater covers and oil accessories. It allows you to use aromatherapy with the essential oil dish while vaping, which I felt was a great feature. I prefered the flavour/satisfying hits the SSV gives over the EQ. The SSV also doesn't require you to keep your herb in contact with the heater, when not in use your whip/wand can be set on the table; where the EQ it's not as easy to lift the bowl off of the heater so I usually just ended up leaving it and the whip on. The SSV can also be hands free if you want to keep the want attatched; just need the right heater cover and the metal clip they sell.

The EQ won't cook your herb too much unless you draw from it, but I feel it does definitely leech some goodness away if you're wanting to leave it on for on demand use throughout the day. Which I like to, my SSV or UD sit awaiting my use whenever I am at home.

The other thing I liked about the SSV is the internals are very robust but simple to replace; solid wire, nobs, dimmer, ceramic heater.. I used and abused my EQ and eventually the circuit board was damaged; not as easy to repair that. If any part of my SSV goes it should be easy to get a replacement part.

Not to hate on the EQ though. It was my first desktop vaporizer and I loved it; used it almost daily for over 3 years leaving it on all night and over entire weekends. It outlasted several power supplies, car power inverters, cyclone bowls and feet of tubing. I carried it around in my backpack with total disregard for it, droped it more times than I can count, and it kept on kicking. What finally went on it was the display. But even then I got a few more weeks of use out of it before the power button refused to respond at all. I mean this to highlight now amazing the EQ/Arizer products are. I'm pretty sure if I spent some time with my multimeter and a soldering iron I could resurrect it; the heater and fan still worked even after all that abuse. It's truly a tank of a vaporizer and the glass is not that expensive compared to the SSV; perfect for clumsy friends. I'm confident it'd still be running today if I treated it with any sort of respect.

But I got my SSV to replace the EQ and never went back. I prefered the vapour the SSV produces, it looks awesome on my desk, the oil dish makes my house smell good, and I love being able to leave it on all day without it heating my herb. The EQ has the aromatherapy feature as well but you have to use that bowl or the cyclone for vaping, so I didn't end up swapping to it very often cuz lazy..

The only downside to the SSV for me was you can't easily microdose with it with the stock glass.. or I couldn't at least. It seemed to me the minimum amount of herb required for good results is more in the SSV than in the EQ. But that could have been solved by getting a different microdosing mod like the ones @DDave produces.

These days I find myself drawn to more efficient vapes though. I got an Underdog log vaporizer and man that thing makes good use of my herb.. It's not directly a whip based vape but it'd be easy to get some glass and tubing to turn it into one. I swear I can get 2-5 bowls in it out of the same amount I'd use in my SSV. Can't recommend logs enough; I hear similar accounts from Enano and HI users as well. I feel the same way about the Dynavap Vapcaps, but they don't really match your requirements.
 

yogoshio

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I would 100% recommend the Vapolution 3.0. It's fairly inexpensive, and is either a glass only whip or a silicone tube (check out the site and videos, they've got great pictures and videos). Arguably the cleanest vape, since it has a TRULY glass only airpath; no stainless steel pieces at all.

This thing is a silent monster. You need to remove the herb between hits, but it is up there with the heavy hitters like the Evo.

Right now the whip package is on sale for $199.99, the glass whip for $204.99

vapolution.com

*EDIT*** I had a major price error, 299.99 instead of 199.99, sorry folks!
 
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TwistedGray

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Have you decided yet TwistedGray?

...

Let us know what you decide on TwistedGray, I'll definitely be ordering number 6 this weekend :tup:

Actually no I haven't decided, and I am very much indecisive. I am leaning towards to the Arizer products because I love the A. Air that I have. I figure if they offer a similar product I might just continue to support them unless there is something superior to them ... which maybe there is. Obviously there is...but still :)
 
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TwistedGray

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Since your criteria was for whip only out of those two I'd pick the V Tower.. If you're interested in doing bags as well as whips get the EQ.

That is the thing...I am not interested in bags because it seems weird, and I've never done it. Would I be interested in bags if I did it, I dunno. Maybe I should just do it and see? Good point :)
 
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I have an SSSV that has the capability of doing bags; I only find myself using them when I have lots of people over because they're easy to pass around, or with someone who has never vaped before. Bags are very easy to use and to control your dose with so they're my go to for people who want to experience cannabis but are intimidated.

They're also great for if you're going through health issues where you can't easily take a full hit like you usually do.. When I got my wisdom tooth out I was advised not to do anything with suction or smoke that could cause dry socket. I found bags were a great way to get my cannabis without stressing my mouth out. Other than that I stick to whips or direct draw for personal use. Just find it more satisfying.

When I purchased the EQ I chose it over the Vtower because I figured ~$60 more was worth it to have the option to try bags even if I never really used it.
 
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Oogendoogan

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Just ordered a vapolution 3, i think it's more than worth looking into, especially for a whip vape. I miss the whip from my SSV but would never use one because of my evo and logs, the vapolution looks like something different and also I hear the flavor and efficiency is pretty damn good, they have a sale into next week for $100 off any package pretty much. I got one with a whip, and all glass "all In wonder bowl" for like $220. I will be posting a review of sorts when I get my unit on Monday. The SSV did get me by for a whip vape for years, it's good, also I used an herbalizer through a whip tonight; that was awesome.
Good luck
Peace
 
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cybrguy

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Hope it satisfies your itch. It is well loved so hopefully it will.
 
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MinnBobber

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I am in a similar situation to you but without a budget limit, I am looking for:

Style: Convection Desktop
Bag or Whip: Whip
Material: Herb only
Price: Any

..... I now want a better whip style desktop, after a few days deliberation I have almost decided that a Silver surfer will be the 6th vape in my collection however the Herbalizer is lingering in my thoughts making me doubt myself.
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The orig post had a $$ target of $200 but you have any price.
With that change, my strong recommendation is the miniVAP by Hermes Med of Spain.
If you value the purest flavor and the most efficient extraction, look at the miniVAP thread.
FYI, I have several vapes including your lusted after Herbalizer. I rate my miniVAP as a clear #1 and the Herbie as #2 so both are great vapes to consider.
As a big bonus, miniVAP can run as a small desktop unit OR as a superb portable with the longest lasting battery of any portable.

Are you aware that Herbie is not recommended for European power source as it is can "blow up" on Euro power. Many are awaiting a Euro power version Herbie but that is not likely nor soon. Even with a step down transformer to get proper voltage, the Hz frequency is different and is bad for Herbie. Some have modded up some power adapters and worked while others have tried and "fried". Be very aware of this issue as Herbie won't even sell/mail to Europe because of it......
 
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