What do Californians (and the rest) think of AUMA?

This thread has gone way off topic IMHO.

How Will Marijuana Legalization Affect California's Black-Market Exports?

While many businesses will participate in the legal marketplace — estimated to be worth $4.3 billion by 2018 — those who remain in the black market may take a financial hit. "Expanding the regulated marketplace in California and expanding the number of businesses that have access to the regulated marketplace in California will do good things to reduce diversion and out-of-state sales," says Hezekiah Allen, executive director of the California Growers Association. But though regulation will discourage black-market dealings inside California and exports outside it, Allen says Proposition 64 leaves many questions unanswered.

Marijuana mega-fest draws record 30,000 to Wine Country

A record-breaking estimated 30,000 California medical pot farmers, family, friends and fans swamped Santa Rosa for a gargantuan marijuana festival dubbed “The Emerald Cup” at the Sonoma County Fairgrounds over the weekend.

The agricultural competition featured more than 1,100 flowers, extracts, edibles and other formulations — a 50 percent increase from last year — battling it out for the title of best in California. Judges spent the past month sampling up to 300 strains each.

Interplay of medical use and legalization in Israel.
Sorry not capable to link.....neurons misfiring....

O'SHAUGHNESSYS ONLINE....second column.....ISRAEL GETTING SYQED....article.

Bottom half under "While were in the hood" gets very interesting in terms of legalization
and ramification globally.....


CANNABIS......Cluster Headache......ReNew....Mission. Good to-go!!!

Here ya go. I guess it's coming to california?

Israel Getting Syqed


Israel’s Teva Pharmaceutical Industries Ltd. and Tel Aviv-based Syqe Medical said they signed a distribution and cooperation agreement to market medical cannabis in an inhaler.

There are several “firsts” reported in this story from the Times of Israel —including the entrance into the Cannabis Industry of a major cigarette maker. It’s not until the literal bottom line that you get the figurative bottom line: Philip Morris is a key backer of the Syqe inhaler. O’Shaughnessy’s would have put that in the lede. I guess we just did.

Under the agreement, Teva will be the exclusive marketer and distributor in Israel of an inhaler developed by Syqe Medical for the delivery of medical cannabis. The accord marks the first time that a major global pharma company has agreed to market a medical cannabis product, according to Syqe.

As part of the agreement with Teva Israel, the Syqe inhaler is expected to receive Health Ministry approval for home use by next year.

@grokit...thanks for linking!
I guess this could be a interplay model/separation of medical and recreational.....?
Win for PHARMA and the state TAX revenues....?

CANNABIS.....Cluster Headache....ReNew...Mission. Good to-Go.!

One of the local dispensaries here in the LA area is now selling to non-medical users. This surprised me as I understood the new law to not allow for recreational sales until 2018.

I expected that some craigslist entrepreneurs would enter the market (they can "gift" cannabis and just charge for their time spent delivering it) but I didn't expect any brick and mortar stores to be entering the fray early.

Has anyone else heard of dispensaries doing this in CA?

Have not heard anything yet....but would not supprise me at all?
But I do know that my total tax/fees went from 37 to45%....2018? THINKING??
"Its plowing time in the field of opportunity"!

CANNABIS.....Cluster Headache....ReNew...Mission. Good to-Go.!

Stu said:

One of the local dispensaries here in the LA area is now selling to non-medical users. This surprised me as I understood the new law to not allow for recreational sales until 2018.

I expected that some craigslist entrepreneurs would enter the market (they can "gift" cannabis and just charge for their time spent delivering it) but I didn't expect any brick and mortar stores to be entering the fray early.

Has anyone else heard of dispensaries doing this in CA?

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There are some reports of this. I think the LAWeekly had a reporter go out and try to buy without a recommendation. The results were a little surprising in that almost all the dispensaries would not sell to the woman. She was only able to get one or two to sell to her. But, on a quick Google search, there are a lot of articles out there in regards to the "problem". (The "problem" being it may be legal to possess marijuana after the election, but the licensing scheme has not been set up for sale.)

I went to a continuing education class on servicing cannabis businesses. There is certainly going to be an extra added expense for professional legal and/or accounting assistance to such businesses because of the risk involved. (My insurance tells me this as well.) Yet another cost for businesses after legalization but before acceptance.

Stu said:

One of the local dispensaries here in the LA area is now selling to non-medical users. This surprised me as I understood the new law to not allow for recreational sales until 2018.

I expected that some craigslist entrepreneurs would enter the market (they can "gift" cannabis and just charge for their time spent delivering it) but I didn't expect any brick and mortar stores to be entering the fray early.

Has anyone else heard of dispensaries doing this in CA?

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I know of a few people that have been going to a spot like that for a little over a month now.. I was surprised when I heard about it.. You have to fill out paperwork and let them photo copy your ID still, but you don't need any rec.. and IIRC they said the prices were pretty normal ATM.. I'm not sure what the legal status of what they're doing is, but they're doing it.. I imagine reading their forms might make it more clear

California won’t be ready to regulate marijuana businesses next year, lawmaker says


Californians legalized recreational marijuana in November, and the state is expected to begin distributing licenses to businesses by January 1, 2018. But least one state senator, who represents California’s marijuana-rich northern counties, doubts the state will be able to write regulations fast enough to hit the deadline.

“Being blunt, there is no way the state of California can meet all of the deadlines before we go live on January 1, 2018,” said Sen. Mike McGuire, D-Healdsburg. “We are building the regulatory system for a multibillion dollar industry from scratch.”

Californians legalized medical marijuana in 1996. It took another two decades for the state Legislature to approve the first comprehensive seed-to-store licensing system in 2015, and lawmakers gave themselves until 2018 to set up the necessary agencies, systems and regulations.

Weed Bouquets are this year’s best Valentine’s Day present

Giving your special someone an ounce of top shelf cannabis for Valentine’s Day might not be the most romantic gift, unless it’s in the form of a lovely bouquet.

Timeout.com reports that Los Angeles-based pot cultivators Lowell Farms is offering a limited cannabis floral bouquet for the upcoming celebration of love, bundling one ounce of high-quality marijuana alongside a gorgeous arrangement of wildflowers, eucalyptus and other greenery.

Out $1,000,000 for Halted Super Bowl Party, Cannabis Entrepreneur to Sue Los Angeles
Breaking news by Alan Brochstein, CFA



One of the cannabis industry’s most successful entrepreneurs, Mike “BigMike” Straumietis, the founder and CEO of Advanced Nutrients, was planning a huge Super Bowl party, but, facing pressure from Los Angeles and several agencies, he cancelled it on Saturday after having invested over $1mm. BigMike, visibly upset during a press conference to discuss the events, blamed the stop-work order, which he called nothing new, on discrimination due to his involvement in the cannabis industry.

Straumietis, upon review by his CFO and legal team, will commence the “Super Bowl Lawsuit” and take action against the city and its officials. BigMike has responded to the actions by creating the Cannabis Freedom Fund, which he has funded with $100K, and he will be donating any recoveries from his lawsuit to it as well. Listen to the 11 minute press conference:
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1 day ago - Straumietis, upon review by his CFO and legal team, will commence the “Super Bowl Lawsuit” and take action against the city and its officials.

An interesting quote from an article that has absolutely nothing to do with the quote....

"Normalizing it and strictly regulating it is more in our interest," Kuehl said, envisioning a day when marijuana edibles are widely on offer in restaurants. "It'll be a list, like the wine list." "

http://patch.com/california/arcadia/s/g0wxx/la-county-supervisors-extend-ban-on-marijuana-industry?utm_source=alert-breakingnews&utm_medium=email&utm_term=politics & government&utm_campaign=alert

Guard Dogs Abandoned By Migrant Marijuana Workers Run Wild In North Coast Hills

With a constant stream of strays, the Humboldt County Animal Shelter is loud, busy and almost always near capacity. Like most things in this part of California, you can trace it right back to the region’s green rush.

“The people that come to our community — even just the traveling ‘trimmers’ — almost all of them bring dogs with them,” says shelter manager Andrea Hale.


I can't imagine leaving a dog behind. It would be like leaving your 2 year old son behind because he is inconvenient to care for.

They're from the Government. They're here to help.....

San Francisco firing up a marijuana department
http://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/...firing-up-a-marijuana-department-10932808.php
San Francisco would have its own independent department of marijuana under legislation headed to the Board of Supervisors. “The goal is to create a single office to manage the onslaught that we are facing come Jan. 1, when recreational pot becomes legal,” said Supervisor Jeff Sheehy.

Sheehy has asked the city attorney to draw up legislation to set up an independent department to regulate the cultivation, sale and distribution of weed within San Francisco.

....hopefully it'll be run better than the police department....or muni.

macbill said:

They're from the Government. They're here to help.....

San Francisco firing up a marijuana department
San Francisco would have its own independent department of marijuana under legislation headed to the Board of Supervisors. “The goal is to create a single office to manage the onslaught that we are facing come Jan. 1, when recreational pot becomes legal,” said Supervisor Jeff Sheehy.

Sheehy has asked the city attorney to draw up legislation to set up an independent department to regulate the cultivation, sale and distribution of weed within San Francisco.

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rather than re-invent the wheel, why don't they work with the state agencies to move the ball forward faster than they currently are?

looney2nz said:

rather than re-invent the wheel, why don't they work with the state agencies to move the ball forward faster than they currently are?

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Because they are Government assholes who's main interest is keeping and expanding their rice bowl. Rice bowl = portfolio and budget.

IMO of course. LOL

It's so easy to throw out baseless, cynical and accusatory comments these days in the age of anonymous Internet forums. Heaven forbid that public servants might actually be intent on serving the public, as compared to greedy entrepreneurs willing to cut corners in pursuit of profit, but who are, of course, fully trustworthy to protect the public from their poisonous pesticides and questionable production proclivities.

archangelz001 said:

It's so easy to throw out baseless, cynical and accusatory comments these days in the age of anonymous Internet forums. Heaven forbid that public servants might actually be intent on serving the public, as compared to greedy entrepreneurs willing to cut corners in pursuit of profit, but who are, of course, fully trustworthy to protect the public from their poisonous pesticides and questionable production proclivities.

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I believe it's because we're presented with report after report of corruption in our leaders. We expect greedy entrepreneurs to be just that, greedy, but there was a time when we expected our leaders to have our best interests at heart, at least as much as their desire to be reelected.

Feb 17, /2017 Mercury News
SAN FRANCISCO — Lori Ajax, chief of the Bureau of Medical Cannabis Regulation, talked to the Bay Area News Group on Friday at the International Cannabis Business Conference in San Francisco.

We wanted to find out what’s up with the state’s law legalizing recreational marijuana. Here are the most interesting things we learned:

1. The state’s on schedule — so you may actually be able to walk into a store and buy marijuana on Jan. 1, 2018. That’s because Ajax may start issuing temporary licenses.

“We are going to issue licenses” on Jan. 1, she said. “We may issue temporary licenses until we complete our background investigations.”

But it’s going to take awhile for the whole system to ramp up. “There is no possible way we can issue everybody a license on Day 1,” she said. “For some people, it make take a few months.

“We expect to accept applications on Day 1, we expect our licensing system will be in place, where you can go online to apply.”

But if you have a medical marijuana card, relax: It’s business-as-usual. Under the Medical Cannabis Regulation and Safety Act, if you have a local permit you are allowed to continue cultivation and dispensing — until the state makes a final decision on applications.

2. Want a commercial growing license? Talk to your local officials. Now.

“You have to be in compliance with your local jurisdiction before we issue a license,” Ajax said.


And because there will be limits to the number of “Type 3” licenses — which will allows licensees to grow up to one acre outdoors — you’ll need to hurry to make sure you’re at the front of the line.

3. Colorado, Washington and Oregon have offered some helpful hints — but only up to a point.

“Colorado had issues with edibles and overconsumption — and it getting into the hands of kids. Washington taxed very high. We can learn from that,” she said. “Those are important lessons for us to look at — to make sure we don’t make the same mistakes here.”

California has a lot more commercial cannabis than these other states. And we’re really diverse — culturally and geographically, she noted.

“At the end of the day, we’ve had a cannabis industry for two decades,” she said. “We need to learn from our own folks. We need to do the best model for California.”

4. Cannabis is one plant — so why the heck will there be two sets of proposed regulations?

Here’s the challenge: There are two statutory structures in place, one for medical marijuana (created by the Medical Cannabis Regulation and Safety Act, or MCRSA) and one for recreational adult use (created by Proposition 64’s Adult Use of Marijuana Act, or AUMA.)

Although the structures are similar, they’re not identical. For instance, they take different approaches to distribution, transport and testing labs. MCRSA established 17 license types; AUMA established 19 license types.

Ajax wants to make these regulations match, if possible — or maybe just create one set of regulations.

“There is going to have to be alignment,” she said. “We are going to strive to have one set of regulations — because we want to minimize confusion, so people know what rules you have to follow.”

5. January 1, 2018, isn’t that far away. When can we expect to see these proposed regulations?

Early April for the medical marijuana regs, she said. Then the public can chime in during a 45-day public comment period (which will include hearings) before the final regs are released.

September is the release date for the recreational marijuana regs. Because of the Jan. 1 deadline, these may be “emergency regulations” that go into place immediately, before public comment, then finalized later.

6. Will Jeff Sessions, Trump’s attorney general, mess with California?

“We don’t know. We are going to focus on what we can control in our state,” she said. “Now we’re operating under federal guidelines (established by former President Obama). We will operate under these guidelines until we hear otherwise. That’s the best way to move forward at this point.”

...the determining factor here in ole s.f. will be ..how transparent is the process?...and who's on the committee ...this is a town controlled by the dems...with two warring factions.

February 17, 2017
Rumblings in CA legislature over marijuana licensing delay


Many industry observers have doubted the capability of the California state government to meet the January deadline for having a cannabis business licensing system up and running, and now a state senator has broached the topic as well.

Sen. Holly Mitchell, a Los Angeles Democrat, suggested the state delay licensing specifically for recreational marijuana businesses in order to first resolve the issue of how registered companies will be able to pay their taxes and fees without any guarantee of banking services.

s the legislature have the authority to delay implementation of either the tax collection or the Jan. 1 due date with regard to licensing?” Mitchell asked during a legislative committee hearing, the Los Angeles Times reported.

One option if the state did want to delay the permitting process would be to issue provisional licenses, according to the Times, until the larger licensing system is ready for the likely hundreds, if not thousands, of companies that will register with the state.

By contrast, state regulators have been more upbeat about the implementation of new regulations. Last month, two top California cannabis regulators promised the state will be on schedule and have a formal permitting system up and running by January 2018.

archangelz001 said:

It's so easy to throw out baseless, cynical and accusatory comments these days in the age of anonymous Internet forums.

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If you are interested, PM me and I will tell you who I am and my many experiences here in Washington, DC working with our Government. That should take care of the anonymous, baseless, and cynical part, yeah?