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Baron23

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With Obama leaving, congressional Republicans move to gut D.C. laws

So much for DC's law. I guess it was good while it lasted. Harris just can't help himself. With regard to opiate related deaths his home state is ranked #11 by some groups.. higher by others. He should be familiar with opiates because he's an anesthesiologist.

Less weed & more guns and fewer healthcare choices. I'm worried where things are headed now with this new leadership.

Looking ahead, one thing's for sure.... a lot of the appointees moving into the city aren't going to feel very welcome here.

I live in the DC area and have not seen any inclusion of DC's MJ laws in the GOP initiative to override local laws.
 

Baron23

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Bogus bongs or bogus lawsuits? Pipe maker sues over fakes

FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. — In the rarefied world of high-end bong makers, Roor glass water pipes have long been smoked to impress. The status symbols are so sought after that some models command prices of $1,000. There’s even a diamond-studded, gold-gilded Roor that goes for nearly $4,000.

Both marijuana and the tools used to smoke it remain illegal under federal law, but that hasn’t stopped Roor and its American licensee from using the federal courts to protect the brand and its sales.

In Florida, California and New York, lawyers are accusing smoke shops and mom-and-pop convenience stores of selling counterfeit Roor bongs in violation of U.S. Trademark No. 3675839, protecting “SMOKER’S ARTICLES, NAMELY, GLASS PIPES, BONGS, WATER PIPES, (and) WATER PIPES OF GLASS” sold under the Roor mark, which has “a stylized font with the last “R’’ facing backwards.”

Almost 200 such lawsuits have been filed since 2013, most of them in the last year.

“Counterfeiting is a huge problem for us,” said Jay Farraj, the owner of Sream Inc., Roor’s U.S. partner. He said the Corona, California, company’s losses have been in the “millions.” (cont)
 

MyCollie

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I live in the DC area and have not seen any inclusion of DC's MJ laws in the GOP initiative to override local laws.

They'll meddle. I guess Harris could be appointed to NIH. If not, he and Chaffetz will get involved at some point.

Do you think they'll tolerate Grosso's recent bill and what it represents?
 
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Baron23

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I don't know what's going to happen with DC. Yes, they meddle and I personally thing all of these politician arses feeding at the public trough have more things to spend their time on then the details of DC laws.

Look, I'm a strong 2nd amendment supporter and don't see it at all like DC government.
I'm also a very strong supporter of reproductive rights and don't see it at all like GOP Congress.

But what I really think is that Congress in general needs to butt out of DC home rule and local issues.

I really wish we could send all these shitheads back to their home districts if they want to meddle in local affairs. See how far that gets them.

As far as Grosso's bill....I like it but I don't think the city government has the stomach for that fight with Congress right at the moment so I don't think it will even get a hearing.
 
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Baron23

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Md. court: Police can still search cars after smelling pot
NNAPOLIS, Md. — Although possession of small amounts of marijuana has been decriminalized in Maryland, the state’s highest court has ruled that police can still search a car without a warrant if they smell pot.

The Baltimore Sun (http://tinyurl.com/gmfylqz) reports that the Court of Appeals issued the unanimous opinion on Friday. Judge Shirley Watts wrote that “decriminalization is not synonymous with legalization, and possession of marijuana remains unlawful.”

The General Assembly decriminalized pot in 2014. People caught with less than 10 grams are now issued a $100 ticket. The fine jumps to $500 for repeat offenses.

The court case was brought on behalf of three men whose vehicles were searched. In each case, police found more drugs after smelling marijuana.

Company hopes to build pot-friendly RV park in Oregon

MEDFORD, Ore. — An Oregon company wants to build a pot-friendly RV park.

A company that supplies warehouse space for marijuana growers is eyeing property near Lake Selmac in Josephine County.

The park will be called Smoke on the Water, Grow Condos Chief Executive Officer Wayne Zallen said.

If the project moves forward, the company hopes to expand with campgrounds in other marijuana-friendly states. The RV parks would include tent camping and a pot dispensary, he said.

The company already has a 15,000-square-foot facility in Eagle Point, Oregon, where it offers for lease or sale indoor grow spaces, which are all occupied. The company is also working toward building a 48,000-square-foot commercial marijuana processing facility in Eugene.

The project, called Nuggetville, was submitted to the city of Eugene in December. The 40-page plan shows blueprints for four warehouses on a 2.65-acre site on industrial property.
 

macbill

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http://fox8.com/2017/01/22/washingt...ded-out-thousands-of-joints-for-inauguration/
Washington marijuana advocates handed out thousands of joints for inauguration

Throughout the day of President Donald Trump's inauguration on Friday, activists hit the streets of Washington, D.C, marching and demonstrating—some breaking the law—for a variety of causes, including LGBT rights, drawing attention to climate change, and immigration law reform.

Among them were a group of marijuana advocates who, in broad daylight in Dupont Circle—the tony neighborhood northwest of the White House—handed out 8,000 free joints to the public.
 

CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
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Monday, January 23, 2017 at 7:14 a.m. ... After four states legalized recreational marijuana last year and twice that many approved new medical marijuana laws, at least eleven more are considering changing their ...

The Reefer Madness wall is crumbling.
 

Baron23

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NFLPA composing proposal for ‘less punitive’ approach to marijuana use

Leaders of the NFL Players Association are preparing a proposal that would amend the sport’s drug policies to take a “less punitive” approach to dealing with recreational marijuana use by players, according to the union’s executive director, DeMaurice Smith.

The proposal will be presented to union’s board of player representatives, Smith said Tuesday. If it is approved by those players, Smith said, the proposal will be made to the league. The NFL would have to agree to any changes to the drug policy, which is negotiated and jointly administered by the league and players’ union.

The proposal to modify the manner in which the league deals with recreational marijuana use would, if it is delivered, come as the NFLPA’s recently formed pain management committee separately studies the issue of marijuana use by players as a pain management tool and whether that should be permissible under the drug policies. (cont)
 

Tranquility

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NFLPA composing proposal for ‘less punitive’ approach to marijuana use

Leaders of the NFL Players Association are preparing a proposal that would amend the sport’s drug policies to take a “less punitive” approach to dealing with recreational marijuana use by players, according to the union’s executive director, DeMaurice Smith.

The proposal will be presented to union’s board of player representatives, Smith said Tuesday. If it is approved by those players, Smith said, the proposal will be made to the league. The NFL would have to agree to any changes to the drug policy, which is negotiated and jointly administered by the league and players’ union.

The proposal to modify the manner in which the league deals with recreational marijuana use would, if it is delivered, come as the NFLPA’s recently formed pain management committee separately studies the issue of marijuana use by players as a pain management tool and whether that should be permissible under the drug policies. (cont)
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Baron23

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Following Mexico’s Lead, Cartels in Canada Are Ditching Marijuana Following Legalization

It just doesn’t pay to traffic marijuana anymore—at least not if you’re running a criminal drug-trafficking organization.

Mexican drug cartels abandoning weed by the bale-full on isolated beaches know it, and now criminal gangs in Canada—where, unlike in the U.S., marijuana legalization has a prominent state sponsor—are learning this hard truth and ditching weed for something less legal, and more profitable.

Organized crime’s stake in narcotics is far from a monopoly: Only about half of all drug-related criminal charges tracked in four major Canadian metro areas over a two-year period were connected in some way to organized crime, according to a recent report from Statistics Canada picked up by the Globe and Mail.

Of these, about 39 percent of marijuana trafficking charges were traced back to organized crime by police and prosecutors in some way, according to the report—and only six percent of all marijuana cultivation cases were found to be gang-related.

Compare that to 62 percent of all cocaine-trafficking cases and 62 percent of meth-related crimes. If the report can be trusted, it’s abundantly clear organized crime in Canada has moved on from weed.

This isn’t new, and it’s not limited to Canada.

Intellectuals at Mexican think tanks believe legalization in America has cut drug cartels’ earnings north of the border by as much as 30 percent—and that was when recreational cannabis was available in just a few states, not in eight states and for 65 million Americans and counting, as it is today. (cont)

Once again, prohibition mainly fuels criminal networks as it provides a desired but illicit means of profit. Just ask Joe Kennedy. Want to take the crime out of MJ, make it legal.

Jeff Sessions Provides Written Responses To Marijuana Questions From Senators

Jeff Sessions had his confirmation hearing recently, during which he was asked all types of questions from Senators. Some of those questions specifically touched on marijuana. The nomination of Jeff Sessions for United States Attorney General has caused a great amount of uncertainty in the marijuana world, both in America and abroad. President Donald Trump has made comments in the past that he supports reform, but has also made comments contradicting what he previously said. If you are an ‘actions speak louder than words’ person like me, then the nomination of Jeff Sessions likely scares you to your core.

Jeff Sessions provided answers to the marijuana related questions from his confirmation hearing. Those answers were neatly compiled and included in today’s ‘Tom Angell Report.’ The Tom Angell Report is jam packed with all types of marijuana information, whether it be local, state, national, or international news. I urge all Weed News readers to subscribe to the newsletter. Below are Jeff Sessions’ answers to questions he was asked about marijuana during his confirmation hearing: (cont)

Sessions is, for me, the most lamentable appointment that Trump has made.

As far as that Facist, Rosenberg of the DEA, I believe that he was lumped in with 50 other Fed agency heads that Trump has retained for now....I believe that this is pending further review by the administration but really don't have any hard confirmation. Rosenberg needs to go, period, IMO.
 
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BabyFacedFinster

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Following Mexico’s Lead, Cartels in Canada Are Ditching Marijuana Following Legalization

It just doesn’t pay to traffic marijuana anymore—at least not if you’re running a criminal drug-trafficking organization.

Mexican drug cartels abandoning weed by the bale-full on isolated beaches know it, and now criminal gangs in Canada—where, unlike in the U.S., marijuana legalization has a prominent state sponsor—are learning this hard truth and ditching weed for something less legal, and more profitable.

Organized crime’s stake in narcotics is far from a monopoly: Only about half of all drug-related criminal charges tracked in four major Canadian metro areas over a two-year period were connected in some way to organized crime, according to a recent report from Statistics Canada picked up by the Globe and Mail.

Of these, about 39 percent of marijuana trafficking charges were traced back to organized crime by police and prosecutors in some way, according to the report—and only six percent of all marijuana cultivation cases were found to be gang-related.

Compare that to 62 percent of all cocaine-trafficking cases and 62 percent of meth-related crimes. If the report can be trusted, it’s abundantly clear organized crime in Canada has moved on from weed.

This isn’t new, and it’s not limited to Canada.

Intellectuals at Mexican think tanks believe legalization in America has cut drug cartels’ earnings north of the border by as much as 30 percent—and that was when recreational cannabis was available in just a few states, not in eight states and for 65 million Americans and counting, as it is today. (cont)

Once again, prohibition mainly fuels criminal networks as it provides a desired but illicit means of profit. Just ask Joe Kennedy. Want to take the crime out of MJ, make it legal.

Jeff Sessions Provides Written Responses To Marijuana Questions From Senators

Jeff Sessions had his confirmation hearing recently, during which he was asked all types of questions from Senators. Some of those questions specifically touched on marijuana. The nomination of Jeff Sessions for United States Attorney General has caused a great amount of uncertainty in the marijuana world, both in America and abroad. President Donald Trump has made comments in the past that he supports reform, but has also made comments contradicting what he previously said. If you are an ‘actions speak louder than words’ person like me, then the nomination of Jeff Sessions likely scares you to your core.

Jeff Sessions provided answers to the marijuana related questions from his confirmation hearing. Those answers were neatly compiled and included in today’s ‘Tom Angell Report.’ The Tom Angell Report is jam packed with all types of marijuana information, whether it be local, state, national, or international news. I urge all Weed News readers to subscribe to the newsletter. Below are Jeff Sessions’ answers to questions he was asked about marijuana during his confirmation hearing: (cont)

Sessions is, for me, the most lamentable appointment that Trump has made.

As far as that Facist, Rosenberg of the DEA, I believe that he was lumped in with 50 other Fed agency heads that Trump has retained for now....I believe that this is pending further review by the administration but really don't have any hard confirmation. Rosenberg needs to go, period, IMO.


One excerpt from Sessions' written responses includes this piece where he feels he was misrepresented:

Sessions, famously, is no friend of cannabis. He once joked that he felt Ku Klux Klan members “were OK until I found out they smoked pot,” and is on the record as saying that “good people don’t smoke marijuana.” In his written statements, the senator claimed his words were taken out of context.

“My words have been grossly mischaracterized and taken out of context,” he wrote. “I was discussing the value of treating people for using dangerous and illegal drugs like marijuana, and the context in which treatment is successful.”

No, that is pretty much the context that labels you a militant prohibitionist.
And if you're going to be attacking the cannabis community, don't be a wuss and tip toe around it. Have the balls to stand up and say what you plan to do.
 
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Silat

When the Facts Change, I Change My Mind.
One except from Sessions' written responses includes this piece where he feels he was misrepresented:

Sessions, famously, is no friend of cannabis. He once joked that he felt Ku Klux Klan members “were OK until I found out they smoked pot,” and is on the record as saying that “good people don’t smoke marijuana.” In his written statements, the senator claimed his words were taken out of context.

“My words have been grossly mischaracterized and taken out of context,” he wrote. “I was discussing the value of treating people for using dangerous and illegal drugs like marijuana, and the context in which treatment is successful.”

No, that is pretty much the context that labels you a militant prohibitionist.
And if you're going to be attacking the cannabis community, don't be a wuss and tip toe around it. Have the balls to stand up and say what you plan to do.

Was Grand Wizard Sessions wearing his sheet when he denied who he is?
 

Baron23

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Girl Scouts of America Threaten Legal Action for Strain Name

Girl Scouts USA wrote a cease and desist letter to an Oakland dispensary to stop using the name ‘Girl Scout Cookies’ for any products, as the nonprofit has exclusive rights to the name under trademark law.

The California dispensary took their product off the shelves immediately, and are urging others to follow suit.

The letter came to the attention of the dispensary, Magnolia Oakland, on January 6. Debby Goldsberry, the Executive Director, made an announcement shortly after.

She explained that it’s a cut and dry trademark issue. “We knew it was coming,” she admits.

For now, they renamed what they could, returned what they couldn’t, and pulled the rest from the shelves within an hour’s time from when they first read the notice. Goldsberry not only removed the product with the ‘Girl Scout Cookies’ namesake, but also wrote memos to their suppliers outlining why they will no longer accept products with that name. (cont)

And so the trade mark and patent battles begin over MJ. Remember when forces are fully engaged in litigious war, it was the cute little Girl Scouts that started it all! LOL
 

grokit

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The us gov has a medical patent on cannibinoids as well (link in signature) :tup:

In 1988--after reviewing all evidence brought forth in a lawsuit against the government's prohibition of medical marijuana--the DEA's own administrative law judge (Judge Francis Young) wrote:
"The evidence in this record clearly shows that marijuana has been accepted as capable of relieving the distress of great numbers of very ill people, and doing so with safety under medical supervision. It would be unreasonable, arbitrary and capricious for the Drug Enforcement Administration to continue to stand between those sufferers and the benefits of this substance in light of the evidence." Judge Francis Young of the Drug Enforcement Administration went on to say: "Marijuana, in its natural form, is one of the safest therapeutically active substances known. In strict medical terms, marijuana is safer than many foods we commonly consume." Judge Young recommended that the DEA allow marijuana to be prescribed as medicine, but the DEA has refused. -Source: US Department of Justice, Drug Enforcement Administration, "In the Matter of Marijuana Rescheduling Petition," [Docket #86-22], (September 6, 1988), p. 57.

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CuckFumbustion

Lo and Behold! The transformative power of Vapor.
The us gov has a medical patent on cannibinoids as well (link in signature) :tup:

In 1988--after reviewing all evidence brought forth in a lawsuit against the government's prohibition of medical marijuana--the DEA's own administrative law judge (Judge Francis Young) wrote:
"The evidence in this record clearly shows that marijuana has been accepted as capable of relieving the distress of great numbers of very ill people, and doing so with safety under medical supervision. It would be unreasonable, arbitrary and capricious for the Drug Enforcement Administration to continue to stand between those sufferers and the benefits of this substance in light of the evidence." Judge Francis Young of the Drug Enforcement Administration went on to say: "Marijuana, in its natural form, is one of the safest therapeutically active substances known. In strict medical terms, marijuana is safer than many foods we commonly consume." Judge Young recommended that the DEA allow marijuana to be prescribed as medicine, but the DEA has refused. -Source: US Department of Justice, Drug Enforcement Administration, "In the Matter of Marijuana Rescheduling Petition," [Docket #86-22], (September 6, 1988), p. 57.

:bigleaf:
I remember this and reading about a few patients back in the day. And this...
 

howie105

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Even if the fed drives itself back into the 80's it won't make much of a difference if Canada goes legal. There just isn't enough political building capital for both a northern and southern boarder wall. Besides it was smokeing in the 80's, 70's and the 60's for those who wanted to light the night.
 
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Baron23

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Va. Senate votes to expand use of marijuana oil to treat more illnesses

RICHMOND — Virginia’s Senate voted Thursday to expand the use of marijuana oil for medical purposes after a spirited debate that veered into presidential drug usage, 1960s hippie culture and the comically long list of potential side effects recited on some TV pharmaceutical ads.

The bill — co-sponsored by Sen. Jill Holtzman Vogel (R-Fauquier) and Sen. Barbara A. Favola (D-Arlington) — builds on legislation passed two years ago that was intended to make it easier for Virginians with severe forms of epilepsy to use two oils derived from marijuana.

This year’s measure, which passed on a 29-to-11 vote in the majority GOP chamber, expanded the list of ailments to include cancer, glaucoma, HID, AIDS, hepatitis C, amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, Crohn’s disease, Alzheimer’s disease, nail-patella syndrome, cachexia or wasting syndrome, multiple sclerosis and complex regional pain syndrome.

The two marijuana-extracted oils lack the plant’s intoxicating properties but help alleviate debilitating seizures for some epileptics. The law passed two years ago provides a way for epileptics or their legal guardians to avoid prosecution for possession of cannabidiol oil (also known as CBD) and THC-A oil. (cont)
 

BD9

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http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/27/middleeast/israel-marijuana-decriminalization/index.html

Israel takes steps to decriminalize marijuana use
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Cannabis advocates scored a major victory in Israel on Thursday. In a move seen as a step toward marijuana decriminalization, Public Security Minister Gilad Erdan announced a new policy that would cut down on prosecution for recreational use of the drug.

The new policy would apply to users carrying up to 15 grams, roughly a half-ounce. If passed, first-time offenders would face a fine of 1000 shekels (about $265), with the offense not appearing on their criminal record. Those caught for a second time would see the fine double. If caught a third time, the punishment would be at the discretion of the police. On the fourth offense, the suspect could face criminal prosecution.
 

Baron23

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Black Md. lawmakers push bills to diversify medical marijuana industry

Leaders of the Legislative Black Caucus of Maryland have introduced legislation to restructure a burgeoning medical marijuana industry that has come under scrutiny for a lack of racial diversity.

Bills introduced this week would change the membership of the 16-person Maryland Medical Cannabis Commission to better reflect the diversity of the state, while requiring the agency to rescore applications for cultivation licenses and give extra weight for black-owned businesses.

Black state lawmakers have criticized marijuana regulators for authorizing cultivation operations led almost entirely by white executives, despite provisions in the 2014 legalization law calling for a diversity among growers. They note that African Americans nationwide have been disproportionately locked up for marijuana offenses, and they say black-owned companies have been underrepresented in the lucrative legal industry.

The attorney general’s office has previously said state officials must demonstrate racial disparities in the medical marijuana industry or similar industries before offering racial preferences in licensing. The cannabis commission is hiring a consultant to advise on whether to conduct such a study.

Del. Cheryl D. Glenn, a Baltimore Democrat who chairs the black caucus, says details of the legislation are still being drafted. She said the 15 companies already approved to grow marijuana would not lose their licenses under the bill, but would not be able to start operating until additional minority-owned businesses also were approved.

Glenn also said there is legislation in the works that would aim to dissolve the commission outright and re-create it as a division of the state health department.

Paul Davies, chairman of the commission, blasted the proposals as detrimental for patients and said he would request a legal review.

“To introduce a bill that calls for dismantling the commission is not only an insult to the dedication of the commissioners who have volunteered an exorbitant amount of time to the program, but threatens the quality of the program and its very existence,” Davies said. “Restarting the application review process is completely unjustified.”

Regulators have previously said they hope medical cannabis would hit dispensary shelves by the end of the year.

Democratic legislative leaders have yet to take a position on the new medical marijuana legislation. A spokesman for Gov. Larry Hogan (R), who has assigned two top aides to help the black caucus address diversity issues in medical marijuana, did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the bills.

Well, Del Mills and her bunch are at it again. To review the bidding, the original proposal evaluation for licenses (grow/process/dispense) had all personal information redacted prior to going to the eval board. That is, the racial make up (and any other personal aspects of bidder leadership) were not known at the time of evaluation and ranking. Hence, it was a merit only eval.

What Mills wants is not diversity, she wants a set aside for just one of the special interest groups in her legislative district. That is, I don't believe she is advocating for Latino or Asian licenses....just for black owned teams. Or hell, I'm Jewish (at least by birth). We are a minority. Where's my set aside or special consideration?

The other thing Mills wants is to restart the whole stinking, many times delayed, very delinquent program in order to get her special interest set aside......fuck the patients, who cares about them, eh? She seems quite willing to use her threat to restart the program to extort the state into giving her what she wants.

This is just complete race based machine politics. Good thing our Governor, Larry Hogan, is very, very popular and has the political muscle to stop Mills from completely derailing the program. The level of "where's mine" selfishness in all of this is breathtaking.


Bills would end license suspension for marijuana possession

RICHMOND, Va. — Virginians convicted of marijuana possession would no longer automatically lose their driver’s license for six months under legislation moving through the General Assembly.

Existing state law mandates that when someone is convicted of a drug offense, the defendant’s license is suspended for six months. Under bills approved by the Senate and by a House subcommittee, that provision would no longer apply to adults convicted of simple possession of marijuana on a first offense.

On Thursday, the Senate passed its version of the legislation — SB 1091, sponsored by Democratic Sen. Adam Ebbin of Alexandria and Republican Sen. Bill Stanley of Franklin County. The vote was 38 to 2.

That came one day after an identical proposal — HB 2051, introduced by Del. Les Adams, R-Chatham — cleared a subcommittee in the House. The Criminal Law Subcommittee of the House Courts of Justice Committee voted unanimously in support of Adams’ bill.

Juveniles convicted of marijuana possession still would be subject to license suspension under the legislation. The bills would leave it up to the judge’s discretion to suspend the driver’s license of adult defendants.
 

MyCollie

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Black Md. lawmakers push bills to diversify medical marijuana industry



Well, Del Mills and her bunch are at it again. To review the bidding, the original proposal evaluation for licenses (grow/process/dispense) had all personal information redacted prior to going to the eval board. That is, the racial make up (and any other personal aspects of bidder leadership) were not known at the time of evaluation and ranking. Hence, it was a merit only eval.

What Mills wants is not diversity, she wants a set aside for just one of the special interest groups in her legislative district. That is, I don't believe she is advocating for Latino or Asian licenses....just for black owned teams. Or hell, I'm Jewish (at least by birth). We are a minority. Where's my set aside or special consideration?

The other thing Mills wants is to restart the whole stinking, many times delayed, very delinquent program in order to get her special interest set aside......fuck the patients, who cares about them, eh? She seems quite willing to use her threat to restart the program to extort the state into giving her what she wants.

This is just complete race based machine politics. Good thing our Governor, Larry Hogan, is very, very popular and has the political muscle to stop Mills from completely derailing the program. The level of "where's mine" selfishness in all of this is breathtaking.

That's terrible. I hope DC opens up for you while they work through all of that.
 

Baron23

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Well, DC council did pass a law to offer reciprocity to other states and it went to the Mayor at the end of the year. Not sure where its at right now but to qualify you need to be a patient of an MMJ state.

Since MD has not yet opened up its patient registry, there is no way for me to go to a DC dispensary and present my MMJ card even if the law was in effect.

I'm hopeful that there is sufficient political strength to resist Mills and her proposal to scrap all work done to date....over the last almost four f*cking years!! :bang::goon::rant:
 
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