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Micro-dosing

invertedisdead

PHASE3
Manufacturer
Ya redosing when I'm already content is a big problem for me, especially with certain tools. My concentrate pen is one of them and I find myself taking 3 or 4 hits in a row when I know anything past the first one is just unnecessary tolerance raising and just gives me more negative side effects.

The pen is dangerous... It's too convenient. That said, I have a divine tribe 3 on the way... HAHA
 

jwr38

Active Member
Ya redosing when I'm already content is a big problem for me, especially with certain tools. My concentrate pen is one of them and I find myself taking 3 or 4 hits in a row when I know anything past the first one is just unnecessary tolerance raising and just gives me more negative side effects.

My issue as well. This is the reason I'm working on mirco dosing. I noticed I can go 0.025g and have an ok feeling. My issue is that my vape has a big bowl ... I just can't help myself sometimes. I want to get a vapcap to help me with limiting the heaviness of my dose.
 

EverythingsHazy

Well-Known Member
Something else to consider when it comes to "micro-dosing", is how much you are using in the entire day. If you are doing 0.05g bowls, but doing ten of them throughout the day, are you really dosing less than someone who does one 0.250g bowl twice a day?

While the strong noticeable buzz usually only lasts a few hours tops, Cannabis definitely has longer lasting effects on the body. If you are dosing again, before it is completely out of your system, you are effectively maintaining a certain blood level of the various chemicals in Cannabis, much like taking a prescription medicine at a high dose, but splitting it up throughout the day.
 

jwr38

Active Member
I agree in some sense but I also found that even if I took (and I did) take those 0.2 bowls, I still would want one a few hours later. I think it is wise to budget. I am trying 4 x 0.025gr during a non-working day with 4 x 0.05 at night. I break it down each morning into doses so not to over do it. I would like it to be less but my vape struggles with 0.025 already. On work days I only use at night to help calm my ADD. (I need my hyperness for my job, it helps).
 

DDave

Vape Wizard
Accessory Maker
:doh:
I did it again! Today was restocking day.

Indica:
The Hog
Afgooey
Pure OG

Sativa:
Chocolope

Whenever I switch strains, keep forgetting that the first few sessions need to lower the dose! Since it was a weekend day and we were going hiking, did a 0.01g of Chocolope. . Love Chocolope if it's the right genetics... this batch was. All the energy, none of the edge! But I forgot to lower the dose, so I was flying way higher than I needed to be!!!

Wasn't a bad hike. Was just blazing.

Looking forward to seeing how the Afgooey hits as a nightcap!

:rockon:
 

Enialis

Well-Known Member
You guys are amazing, followed this thread since its inception as a lurker, I drop some of your guys weekly dose on the floor, any tips for a guy trying to lower his tolerance? I vape roughly an oz a week and taking a t-break is not much of an option because of phantom limb syndrome. Would a log vape be a step in the right direction forcing myself to take smaller doses if I like the way the EVO operates in general?
 

muunch

hotboxing the cockpit
I think it's more about self control. Even with my Underdog and tiny doses, I just keep hitting it bc it's there and convenient, after I'm already pretty baked.

I just stopped combusting in late October though and I've been super excited about all the new vaporizers I've gotten, so that might play into my excessive use. Though I first started vaping in 2010, and had only used a MFLB prior to 2 months ago when I got my Milaana so that's probably why it's all fresh and exciting.

I would say maybe just wait to take your first dose until later in the day or maybe switch to concentrates.

e: clearly I'm not a microdosing expert or even a regular microdoser rn. Forcing a tbreak right now to try and get myself to a reasonable level.
 

SmDeox

Member
You guys are amazing, followed this thread since its inception as a lurker, I drop some of your guys weekly dose on the floor, any tips for a guy trying to lower his tolerance? I vape roughly an oz a week and taking a t-break is not much of an option because of phantom limb syndrome. Would a log vape be a step in the right direction forcing myself to take smaller doses if I like the way the EVO operates in general?

There's a lot of people smarter than me about this but logs in general are amazing at micro dosing since usually you can't fit a huge load in to begin with. Great extraction+small loads make it easy to get your spot without consuming those huge hits you probably get with the evo. :D

As far as tolerance I take a few days break every month. That works for me more than taking a longer break less often. Dunno if that's feasible for you, but it may make a difference. There's also been some posts about getting more out of your weed.... the recent thread about consumption here has some knowledge. I'll let a more experienced person answer ya though since mine is mostly personal opinion.


@DDave what's your all time favorites? :p
 

Enialis

Well-Known Member
Thanks guys, self-control is definitely an issue with you me, since I'm off-work indefinitely after my accident.

@SmDeox thats sorta what I was thinking, one hitting a stems one at a time seems like it might be a way to not blow my head off to fast to quickly with the EVO

I already wait until about 2:30 everyday except my morning hit for leg spasms, abstinence style t-breaks to me aren't much of an option unless i want to go back on opiates (no thanks). I think dose titration might be the way i need to do it, just like when I weaned myself down on anxiety meds (on-going process, wrong forum)
 

muunch

hotboxing the cockpit
Hey, if you need to consume a zip a week to stay off opiates, no shame man.

I agree, titrating is the probably the best way to go. A log vape will definitely help but I recommend you weigh your doses (get a milligram scale) and try and stick to somewhat of a schedule.

If you need someone to talk to about weening off of benzos, DM me. I don't have direct experience but I have had friends stuck on clonazolam/phenazepam and was there for him to boost mood and suggest supplements to aid withdrawals etc.
 

Squiby

Well-Known Member
any tips for a guy trying to lower his tolerance? I vape roughly an oz a week and taking a t-break is not much of an option

I vape all day long, every few hours. I lowered my tolerance by intentionally packing slightly smaller bowls. Vaping a little bit less, a little bit less every day. If you go slow and always vape slightly less, you will find that you get the same effects with less material.

I am down to .015 - .02 gms at a time. About .06 gm per day.
 

SmDeox

Member
No shame bud we all have some demons. I have an addictive personality for some things also and MMJ>>>>>Any prescription drugs IMO.

@DDave I've probably tried around 12 strains so definitely don't have your experience haha but my favorite night time is either Bubba or OG Kush and the only strain I've found that I can reliably use during the day is green crack. I haven't tried the daytimes you like so I'll pick some up and give it a go!
 

kellya86

Herb gardener...
Thanks guys, self-control is definitely an issue with you me, since I'm off-work indefinitely after my accident.

@SmDeox thats sorta what I was thinking, one hitting a stems one at a time seems like it might be a way to not blow my head off to fast to quickly with the EVO

I already wait until about 2:30 everyday except my morning hit for leg spasms, abstinence style t-breaks to me aren't much of an option unless i want to go back on opiates (no thanks). I think dose titration might be the way i need to do it, just like when I weaned myself down on anxiety meds (on-going process, wrong forum)

Iv never taken a t break and my tolerance is wherever I want to put it....

I can go from vaping a gram a day, to vaping 0.2 a day, within a couple of days...

The trick is just to lower your doses, and add more time between them...

Now at your level, this will take more than a few days, a couple of weeks maybe...
But it's achievable..

Start by dropping to 3 grams a day....

You may find that the more you lower your tolerance, the better your medicine works...

I also find a vapcap is nice to mix it up with the evo... change of delivery method is good for confusing tolerance...
Nice small bowl, but strong effects...
 

C No Ego

Well-Known Member
Thanks guys, self-control is definitely an issue with you me, since I'm off-work indefinitely after my accident.

@SmDeox thats sorta what I was thinking, one hitting a stems one at a time seems like it might be a way to not blow my head off to fast to quickly with the EVO

I already wait until about 2:30 everyday except my morning hit for leg spasms, abstinence style t-breaks to me aren't much of an option unless i want to go back on opiates (no thanks). I think dose titration might be the way i need to do it, just like when I weaned myself down on anxiety meds (on-going process, wrong forum)

a great way to use less is to consistently switch your strains around so your tolerance does not get conditioned to just one profile of cannabinoid from just one strain all the time... so, instead of getting just one strain break it up into four different strains and keep up with the order in which you use them... you will find too that doing this will show you particular strain attributes that allow you to dose according to strain attributes....
 

Dabberhashery

electrobubblerizer
I am trying to reduce my daily intake and have been watching this thread with interest. I must admit that I have really previously had no incentive before to reduce or even monitor my intake, other than making sure I am not blasting through my money.

I was taking two hits from a Da Budda vape with the standard bowl size, around .2 to 0.3, so in total one session for me was 0.4 - 0.6. Total daily intake was anywhere between 1 to 2 grams daily.

I received my Omnivap and Evo on 30/12 and since then have reduced my intake to 0.6g on weekdays which I found relatively easy because my evenings are quite short. I'm struggling with the weekends with much more spare time and had 0.8g Saturday and Sunday I wanted a film watching session and had a blow-out day of 1.2g.

In total I have easily halved my consumption just by making a few changes - the biggest of which was to actually start taking an interest in the amounts I am using. Over the holidays I was using 9 grams a week and this week was just 5g.

I am going to make a concerted effort to continue this downwards trend, I have a two day break enforced by a business trip where I will be a passenger and uncomfortable taking anything with me at all, so hopefully this will help a bit more.

I do notice the old 'just one more hit' thoughts creeping in, hopefully over time I will experience the highs I used to get with less bud intake.

Thanks to all posting in this thread, for the motivation to start and for the helpful tips so far!

Micro-dosers, you Rock! :rockon:
 

t-dub

Vapor Sloth
I vape roughly an oz a week and taking a t-break is not much of an option because of phantom limb syndrome.
I also deal with chronic pain. I find that a micro dose will give me the feeling of being high, however, it will not hit the body like I desire. Personally I find that vaping for pain takes more medicine. Out of all the vapes I have owned, The Cloud EVO hits my body the best.
I think I learned from this thread...take 1 hit, wait a few minutes for the effects, then take more if needed.
That is an excellent approach. I vape until my pain level says I have had enough.
A winning team right there...
The evo/ht and my tiwoody/vong seems to be keeping vas very much at bay....
They compliment each other very well...
Im sure this helps with tolerance....

They are very different, yet both powerfull...
It is important to rotate strains and vaporizers to keep effects "fresh" so to speak.
 

Little Bill

Oldest stoner on FC
for you folks who take T breaks. i've found that using a different genetic every day keeps that problem away. each day i grab a different jar and i've been vaping an average of .75 of a gram per day for a few years now. i could vape more but i just don't need it.

i occasionally vape hash all day and start back on flowers the next day. not a problem with tolerance.

if you have the opportunity to have more than one genetic, try switching out every day. works for me, might work for you. as long as i don't have anything to do, i like getting high every day and i stay buzzed most of the day.

If I vaped half what you do I would never be truly competent.
 
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shredder

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If I vaped half what you do I would never be truly competent.

Everyone is different, although microdosing is something we all can attempt, and most can see some level of success. The exact amounts are very much subjective though.

3 years ago I combusted 3-5 grams a day smoking joints, and a occasional volcano bag.

So even though I'm vaping roughly .5 gram per day plus I take a nightly cannacap, I feel successful. Not at ddave levels, lol.

But it feels right for me, and I have very little wheezing or coughing anymore. And I'm still maintaining a proper medical level for my conditions.

Good thread vapor bros and sisters!
 
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DDave

Vape Wizard
Accessory Maker
Good points @shredder :tup:

I'm still maintaining a proper medical level for my conditions.
Precisely what dictates what micro-dosing is for each individual.

Not at ddave levels,
When my Vertigo flares up, my micro-dosing normal dosage is not near enough to take care of my symptoms (mostly nausea).
During those times I increase dosage sometimes 4x that of my norm, except once when it happened smack in the middle of a work day in which I had to be functional. That one time, I was able to micro-dose my way through the day on a fine line of medicating, not overdosing, and possible nausea. Made it through and glad to know I could do it... but I'd prefer to have my "spins" during off hours so I could just medicate a bit more heavily and sleep it off.

I don't think micro-dosing will ever be the same for everyone. MMJ helps so many varied conditions, and varying levels of those conditions, that it may actually be impossible for anyone to discover the "perfect dose".

I do think micro-dosing ends when one has dosed to the point of taking care of whatever current symptoms one is suffering, but then continues to medicate.
 
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