The Extreme-Q Vaporizer

emotion

Member
albacore said:
What eBay sellers are legit sellers of the Extreme Q?

I'm looking at this one but if anyone has first hand experience with another seller, please let me know.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-ARIZER...569?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45fa787c51


I purchased my first EQ from this very seller about 4-5 months ago - no real problems whatsoever, all came just as described, included all advertised "extras" and I believe I even paid a few dollars less than your linked one. Only minor negatives I can say is it took over a week to reach me (but in all fairness it shipped clear across US) and I'm not sure if they are an Arizer "authorized dealer" - whatever the hell that corporate speak is supposed to actually imply. Apparently, rumor has it, if you are unlucky enough to have purchased a defective Arizer product from someone they consider an "unauthorized dealer" you may .... or may not ..... be covered under the Arizer factory warranty.

Basically, - My experience is that I purchased my EQ off ebay, from a decent/good seller, at a good price and have no reason not give them my recommendation when due ........ It's just that apparently the manufacturer has a really puzzling and screwy distribution practice/philosophy.

To be fair, although I have seen this warranty issue discussed here (and now also on the Solo thread) more than a few times - To the best of my knowledge, Arizer's web site does not mention this policy and more importantly, does not have an "approved" or "authorized dealers" list posted that I can easily find. I would imagine that even if you should buy from a seller claiming "authorized dealer" status, your really just taking that dealers word for it as there's no way to quickly check short of going through the hassle of emailing Arizer, asking and waiting/hoping for a reply.

My second EQ (which I purchased for a friend about a month ago) also came from ebay, just a different seller as I didn't want to wait a week to receive it and I found an equally qualified yet much closer seller for even a few dollars less. I purchased both EQ's the same way I purchase anything else from ebay - Look for the best price (including shipping) but from only those sellers that have a stellar recent/current track record with at least 98%+ positive long term feedback AND have a very good return policy spelled out clearly. This way if there's an issue, you can simply just return it and quickly get a replacement. Come to think of it - I don't even remember hearing about many (if any) people that have had any actual (legitimate and non user error) problems with their new EQ with the exception of the occasional broken glass accessories report.

Can any FC'rs either confirm or deny (via personal/official contact with Arizer) this alleged and peculiar warranty stance concerning dealers? If it's true, then it brings many thoughts to mind and none of them reflect positively upon Arizer. Initial thought would be that holding your very customers "hostage" in order to attempt some type of punishment upon dealers who dare deviate from manufacturer suggested pricing hardly seems like a good, viable, long term business decision.

I know that many product manufacturers sell the same product as both "name brand" and "generic" with differing pricing as well as warranty BUT virtually all use obviously differing names/packaging to create a clear distinction for customers. This allows them to sell product at discount yet cause little confusion or hard feelings from their customers. Some electronics companies also have US market and "grey market" pricing (although usually related to import tarrifs) as well, also with vastly differing warranty claims/rights - But again these products are labeled such allowing the customer to make educated choices - It's not just a guess and a crap shoot.
Even yet ..... There's also the issue of "seconds" which are usually products just barely failing factory quality control for some (usually minor) issue. Most manufacturers won't even admit doing this type of business but many do with clothing manufactures being the most common. These products are mostly sold "unlabeled/unbranded" with very minimal if any warranty at a huge discount to wholesalers who largely deal in the "secondary" retail market like discount stores, flea markets and yes - eBay etc.

Generally, it's always good, basic, common sense business policy to deal with any distribution issues or problem wholesalers/vendors privately and well away from your end customers. To actually knowingly and willingly involve your end customers in such matters is just plain odd. Even if Arizer does insist upon such silly requirements for warranty coverage - The absolute minimal and basic attempt at customer service would dictate that they should at least have an easily accessible public webpage clearly listing all these seemingly mysterious, "approved authorized dealers".

The EQ is simply a really great vape btw and I wouldn't hesitate to buy another off ebay should my current one ever get kidnapped by vapor indulging aliens.
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Best advice I could possibly offer is that if your like 99% of us out there - money is ever increasingly tight these days with many smiling insatiable vultures more than willing to try and "trick or trap" it away from you, so spend it very wisely, enlightened and with just prudence.

:peace:
 
emotion,

Adobewan

Well-Known Member
Very happy Extreme Q user, but lately my temperature settings intermittently fluctuate on their own. I'll have it set at 360-370F and after some time, I'll look over and it will be way up at 500F or down as low as 124F.
Anyone else run into this?
 
Adobewan,

geech420

Member
Broke the heater cover by dropping unit 2 to 3 feet on carpet. It hit base first but cracked the bowl and broke the cover. A drag but pretty easy to replace. Vape World has a great video on YouTube that takes you through it all, takes just a couple minutes.

What I found after reassembling the unit was it performed MUCH BETTER!:D. Much more vapor then before I replaced the cover.
The only reason I can think of is that the screen over the heater wasn't in contact with the ceramic core. I made sure the screen was on the core but didn't expect any difference. What a great pleasant surprise!
If you aren't completely satisfied with the performance of your Q, give it a try.
 
geech420,

Phajik

Well-Known Member
geech420 said:
Broke the heater cover by dropping unit 2 to 3 feet on carpet. It hit base first but cracked the bowl and broke the cover. A drag but pretty easy to replace. Vape World has a great video on YouTube that takes you through it all, takes just a couple minutes.

What I found after reassembling the unit was it performed MUCH BETTER!:D. Much more vapor then before I replaced the cover.
The only reason I can think of is that the screen over the heater wasn't in contact with the ceramic core. I made sure the screen was on the core but didn't expect any difference. What a great pleasant surprise!
If you aren't completely satisfied with the performance of your Q, give it a try.


I too replaced the heater cover assembly and instantly had bigger, more flavor rich Vapor. I think they vastly improved the design over the old style because it sure looked different.
 
Phajik,

ilovebOObs

can i stick my male joint in there?
its been a little over a month with my extreme. I love it, was planning on getting the cloud but now I don't really see a need for it, since the extreme gets me to where i need to be already. Plus the bags hits are really nice, especially combined with a good bubbler. I use this baby everywhere since i have it plug in to my car.

I found a way to to shorten the warm up time. I find the the unit itself gets to desired temps pretty fast, but the bowl takes forever to warm up. So now i just turn the unit on, then i take the bowl and hit it with my torch lighter for 20 sec then plop it back in the unit. after that i just pack an elbow and i'm good to go, so now my warm up time is around 2 mins, which is friggin awesome!
 
ilovebOObs,

geech420

Member
Phajik said:
I too replaced the heater cover assembly and instantly had bigger, more flavor rich Vapor. I think they vastly improved the design over the old style because it sure looked different.

I didn't see a difference between the 2 covers. I've only had my Q 3 mos. so if they did change the design I probably already had the new design. Whatever the reason, my Q is working better now than ever.
 
geech420,

J.R.R.Tokin'

Wych Doctor
Manufacturer
Howdy-hi,

This is my first post, so I would like to start with a big thanks to all who have contributed to this thread which has helped me greatly in choosing which vape to go for.
I'm from the UK and have been a smoker for over 20 years. I dabbled with pipes and bongs in my youth but it's been joints for the last 15.
Due to health concerns about combustion I investigated the vape scene. None of my friends in the UK (or myself) have had much to do with vapes so I have been totally reliant on forums such as this to for information, and what great information there is.
Believe it or not I have read all 131 pages of this thread, by about page 70 I ordered my Extreme Q, and have finished reading while experimenting with my Q (about 2 weeks ago).
I have to say that the information posted here is invaluable. Taking the machine out of the box I already felt like a veteran of the Q. I had no problems getting to grips with it and have stopped acting the caveman with fire since I got it. I was so determined to stop combustion that after 2 days with the Q I went and got a MFLB.
There is not much I can add to the wealth of information provided here, but I do have a few things to say.
As a joint smoker, as opposed to a bong hitter, I am used to taking multiple hits at a time. I know that most of you like to hit the elbow for heavy, dense hits, but I find it a bit much for me personally. For me the Cyclone bowl works a treat (I made the 'spring' mod on the first day almost immediately). I can fill it up, puff away on it for a half hour/hour and feel totally satisfied. I find if I do elbows it goes too quickly and I end up filling multiple elbows in succession, which ultimately leads to me passing out from overkill!
I really love the control and versatility the unit offers. I have always had problems sleeping, but since I've had the Q it's got much better ( 230c before bed is what the doctor said :ko: )
Disclaimer: No doctor actually said that!

So, what I'm trying to say is I love this machine. The 200 is worth it for the improvement in the quality of living, health and high it's given me.
I can honestly say that I am a convert and will never go back to paper and tobacco.

My lungs have also asked me to say thanks to you all :D
 
J.R.R.Tokin',

Stu

Maconheiro
Staff member
Welcome, JRR. Glad to see you're getting by well with your new Q. Grab a chair and stay awhile.
 
Stu,

J.R.R.Tokin'

Wych Doctor
Manufacturer
Thanks Stu,

One more quick thing to add...
I managed to break my mouth piece using the glass stirring tool, so not recommended.
 
J.R.R.Tokin',

ilovebOObs

can i stick my male joint in there?
so anyone here uses the extreme in a car? i can't smoke inside of the house so the car is the next best thing. I have it setup it the front seat, hahah if you guys want i will post a pic.
 
ilovebOObs,

Seek

Apprentice Daydreamer
I do sometimes in a friend's car (don't have my own car yet). I have an universal power supply for cars. 120W, adjustable voltage and set of connectors. So when set to 19V and choosing the right connector, the EQ can be run in a car without any battery source.
 
Seek,

ilovebOObs

can i stick my male joint in there?
Seek you have the brand and model number of the power supply. The one u have sounds awesome.
 
ilovebOObs,

ilovebOObs

can i stick my male joint in there?
wow that one is awesome, I guess I have to invest in one of those. Thanks Seek for the link.

so here it is, my car setup. hahaha i know its kinda messy.
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my sheldon black 6 shooter, sorry kinda dirty from smoking bho for some reason its attracted to the sheldon black lettering.
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i stuffed it right into the seat, lolz
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looks pretty clean with the seat reclined. u don't really see any tubing at all, i had to pull it out a little just to show it was there.
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nothing better then sitting back with the stereo on and doing water filtered bag hits. gotta love it. i smoke an e-cig too, so people think i'm just kicking back smoking that, hahaha
 
ilovebOObs,

CaptainQ

Active Member
Hey guys love me Extreme Q, but have been thinking into water filtration lately (in jealously of the Cloud). I've been looking at the old 7th floor vapor tamers, i was wondering if you could simply put the dome into the vapor tamer and avoid using the whip and elbow altogether? So it would just be the Extreme Q, Tough Bowl, Elbow Pack into the Vapor Tamer.

I'm pretty much looking for the absolute minimum parts needed to run the Extreme Q (as i really hate the idea of the tubing), with minimal cleaning.

Thanks guys
 
CaptainQ,

tooquick

Member
I just bought a 4 balloon two oring kit for my vtower extreme, but I can't figure out how to assemble it. I tried googling it and doing searches but couldn't find anything. Does anyone know of a tutorial or can help me on getting this put together? I bought them for a party and needed extra bags which is on friday
 
tooquick,
I think a lot more could go into the wiki in general!

Hows everyone doing today? Pretty muggy where I am, but I'll be turning my Extreme on soon and getting hooked into some Skyrim.

Looks like some cool mods are going around lately, very cool. Was wondering what you all do for a valve (if you do at all that is). I recently bought a much bigger bag (not as big as these 6 footers you guys have :D) but its still far too big for me to finish on my own. I've been thinking about cutting some cork to put in there but there has to be something a bit more stylish going around. Right now I'm using sticky tack (used to hang posters) but I don't want to keep doing that for sanitary reasons.

Also, anyone actually using it for incense? I haven't since I first got it but was thinking about giving it another go.
 
GrooveVapor,

BenJames

Member
Been doing temperature measurements in the Arizer Extreme Q cyclone Bowl and getting very interesting results.

Arizer Extreme Q Temp Test Result:
-Unit was turned on.
-Fitted with empty bowl, screen in place per normal use.
-Wip is uninstalled for all measurements.
-Temp probe for digital thermometer placed to rest with tip on the screen
-probe wrapped in foil to simulate wip air flow.
-fan speed 3 enabled.
-System was allowed 10 minutes to stabilize.

240 C at the Arizer LCD display = 187 C measured at the bowl with fan speed 3 enabled.
Changed my temp setting on LCD from recommended 190 C to 235 C. WOW what a difference.
Comments?? Anyone one else done sim testing???

best to all, the herb is a blessing, blessings to all!
 
BenJames,

Bouldorado

Well-Known Member
BenJames said:
Been doing temperature measurements in the Arizer Extreme Q cyclone Bowl and getting very interesting results.

Arizer Extreme Q Temp Test Result:
-Unit was turned on.
-Fitted with empty bowl, screen in place per normal use.
-Wip is uninstalled for all measurements.
-Temp probe for digital thermometer placed to rest with tip on the screen
-probe wrapped in foil to simulate wip air flow.
-fan speed 3 enabled.
-System was allowed 10 minutes to stabilize.

240 C at the Arizer LCD display = 187 C measured at the bowl with fan speed 3 enabled.
Changed my temp setting on LCD from recommended 190 C to 235 C. WOW what a difference.
Comments?? Anyone one else done sim testing???

best to all, the herb is a blessing, blessings to all!


what kind of thermometer are you using?
 
Bouldorado,

flotntoke

thoroughly vaped
Ben - sorry no testing with a thermometer here. Just many real hits with various strains (both indicas & sativas). I do tend to be a data-head with spreadsheets galore when it comes to most things, but not so much with my meds. I try to keep track of which varieties I like best and how they feel, but that's about it.

There have been MANY posts about temps and whatnot. Check through the thread when you get a chance.

For me? I've found that my Q always runs about the same temp if the temp on screen says the same thing. I don't know if when I set it on 190C that I'm truly vaping at 180C, 200C or anything else specific. But, I do know with elbow packs on my unit I personally like to do a 5 +/- whips at 180C setting, give it a stir and kick it up to 190C for the next 5 or so and maybe even go up to 200C for a few more if the stash is low or I'm looking to be mentally velcroed to the couch. I generally move everything up 10C and use fan speed 2 for bags, with pretty much the same results. 1st bag @ 190C, stir and second bag @ 200C, stir & third bag @ 210C. Allow a few minutes for every bump up to let temp of glass build up. Anything over 210C (for me personally on my specific Q) gives me a gag and usually a cough - even tho I do still combust regularly thru glass bubbs or tubes.

It works great like that for me, and anything not vaped to full potential ends up in the ABV for awesome butter or oil. Just another great thing about vaping IMO. I had done edibles with shake (and occasionally bud) before, but it has become a whole new thing with ABV. Always have some butter or oil on hand and can dose myself or friends pretty well with something as simple as a piece of toast whenever I like. Or, just get creative in the kitchen. ;)

For a real fun night, invite a few friends over and serve up a heady dish or two for dinner. Open a bottle of wine, and start passing around nice warm cloudy bags after dessert. If that doesn't fill the house with giggles and roaring laughter, you're probably not doing something right!
 
flotntoke,

pakalolo

Toolbag v1.1 (candidate)
Staff member
BenJames said:
Been doing temperature measurements in the Arizer Extreme Q cyclone Bowl and getting very interesting results.

Arizer Extreme Q Temp Test Result:
-Unit was turned on.
-Fitted with empty bowl, screen in place per normal use.
-Wip is uninstalled for all measurements.
-Temp probe for digital thermometer placed to rest with tip on the screen
-probe wrapped in foil to simulate wip air flow. <--- say whut?
-fan speed 3 enabled.
-System was allowed 10 minutes to stabilize.

240 C at the Arizer LCD display = 187 C measured at the bowl with fan speed 3 enabled.
Changed my temp setting on LCD from recommended 190 C to 235 C. WOW what a difference.
Comments?? Anyone one else done sim testing???

best to all, the herb is a blessing, blessings to all!

I'm curious about how you decided that wrapping the probe in foil simulated whip air flow.

That aside, what flotntoke said. I've never believed the readout was the actual vaporizing temperature, I just use it as a quasi-stable reference point. Of course cranking it up to 235 C makes a difference: you generate thicker vapour and you cash out your bowl a lot faster.
 
pakalolo,

slowrolling

Well-Known Member
Hey all,

I'm a new Med MJ user looking for the cleanest healthiest and most enjoyable experience. Just ordered a Q, and have been reading through this monster thread (really need search functionality to search single threads when they become monsters like this one is) for several days, and am still only a little over half way through and a lot of the old links to etsy and other accessory providers are dead so wanted to throw out a quick request for recommendations since it will probably take me another few days to read the second half of this thread.


Judging by the advice in the first half of the thread my current plan is to order:

*replacement / upgraded tubing.
*some type of small, convenient and easily storable water piece + any adapters I'd need to make things hookup (hopefully under $100).
*some type of grinder

am I missing anything? any vendor/piece recommendations...
 
slowrolling,
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