The Extreme-Q Vaporizer

Vessel

Well-Known Member
So what exactly is this "new noise" coming from ? I guess I ll have to ask Azier. If the old versions don't whine, I don't know the newer one's do ? I am thinking of getting another EQ, does anyone have 2 ?


Also, do the EQ's on ebay have a warranty ?
 
Vessel,

Kaptan

Well-Known Member
The high pitched whinning noise is normal. It was stated earlier that Arizer will not warranty EQ's purchased below the manufactures retail pricing. In my experience, this is not true. I purchased mine for well under $200 and have still have my full warranty. YMMV
 
Kaptan,

Vessel

Well-Known Member
cool on that -


Ok so i have a EQ, I know that there's a faint electrical type static (fast) ticking buzz when the unit is set on a temp, and is just keeping the thing at that temp, that sound is normal.

SO are you guys actually hearing the same static buzz I and others like a year ago on this thread hear, or is this a "new" sound - It sounds like a high pitch whining sound would be more distracting than a faint static ticking sound.
 
Vessel,

vape4life

Banned for life
It may be normal in a sense that lotsa EQ's have the noise and it doesn't affect performance, however my new replacement EQ is completely silent, no high pitch squeel nor whine. I can't see it really being that normal when you tap or move the unit and the noise stops.

Kaptan said:
The high pitched whinning noise is normal. It was stated earlier that Arizer will not warranty EQ's purchased below the manufactures retail pricing. In my experience, this is not true. I purchased mine for well under $200 and have still have my full warranty. YMMV
 
vape4life,

oldiebutgoodie

Apostle, Church of Vaporization
vape4life said:
It may be normal in a sense that lotsa EQ's have the noise and it doesn't affect performance, however my new replacement EQ is completely silent, no high pitch squeel nor whine. I can't see it really being that normal when you tap or move the unit and the noise stops.

I'm inclined to have the same perspective; mine is also silent except when I run in on Fan 3 and that is to be expected. Noises that would probably be OK would be either from air movement or expansion/contraction due to heat, although with the former I would want to be sure that wasn't due to some obstruction or foreign material. The Q's fan, depending on the type of bearing that it has, might also make a noise; that would suggest wear and/or lack of self-lubrication (unlikely with a Delta fan, but still theoretically possible). "Shaking" the unit could conceivably change any of the above.

Certain electronic components on a PCB such as a choke can emit a high-pitched wine when they begin to fail, but I've never inspected the Q's board so can't comment on whether there are even any such devices present.

Given the nbr of times this question has come up, an email to Arizer asking for a technical explanation of the possibilities, would probably be helpful for this thread.
 
oldiebutgoodie,

Zildjian

Member
Has anyone ordered from Aroma-tek. They have the Extreme Q 4.0 for 100.00 less than anyone else I can find, and want to make sure this place is ligit.

aromatek.net/servlet/the-47/2010-ARIZER-EXTREME-Q/Detail

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Zildjian,

Zildjian

Member
Tim said:
Amazon has it even cheaper, Zil.
Yea I saw that, but I want to go with a reputable site. Also Aroma-tek is claiming they will warranty it for the three years so there is no need to send it to Canada, so this was a nice option as well. Just wondering if anyone has had any dealings with the website. As they can claim to offer whatever, but if they dont stand by their word than it means nothing. I did a search on them to see if I could find any reviews on the company. I did not find anything good or bad on them.
 
Zildjian,

Kaptan

Well-Known Member
Zildjian said:
Tim said:
Amazon has it even cheaper, Zil.
Yea I saw that, but I want to go with a reputable site. Also Aroma-tek is claiming they will warranty it for the three years so there is no need to send it to Canada, so this was a nice option as well. Just wondering if anyone has had any dealings with the website. As they can claim to offer whatever, but if they dont stand by their word than it means nothing. I did a search on them to see if I could find any reviews on the company. I did not find anything good or bad on them.

Amazon retailers will do the same and also will come out cheaper.
 
Kaptan,

Purpl3_Haz3

On a Permanent Vakation
Kaptan said:
Zildjian said:
Tim said:
Amazon has it even cheaper, Zil.
Yea I saw that, but I want to go with a reputable site. Also Aroma-tek is claiming they will warranty it for the three years so there is no need to send it to Canada, so this was a nice option as well. Just wondering if anyone has had any dealings with the website. As they can claim to offer whatever, but if they dont stand by their word than it means nothing. I did a search on them to see if I could find any reviews on the company. I did not find anything good or bad on them.

Amazon retailers will do the same and also will come out cheaper.

Many reputable retailers of all types of goods use Amazon as an outlet, as amazon will stock items for quick shipping, etc. I have found in the past that you can get cheaper prices, from legitimate retailers, through amazon.

When I ordered my EQ from Vape Master, they gave me a discount for ordering through amazon as opposed to their actual site.

The only thing I find on this site when searching for aroma tek is the follow post from a couple months ago...

Canadian_Mist said:
What's up Keepitlite.

I just used aroma tek to by my vap and have been using my iolite for few days now.... But at 169 + free shipping sounded fishy to me. But did anyways and happy so far smile
 
Purpl3_Haz3,

Zildjian

Member
Thanks purp for the input, this help greatly in setting my mind at ease. That Vapemaster dude on amazon has a lot of positive reviews, so I am sure whoever I go with will be an ok choice.
 
Zildjian,

Purpl3_Haz3

On a Permanent Vakation
Zildjian said:
Thanks purp for the input, this help greatly in setting my mind at ease. That Vapemaster dude on amazon has a lot of positive reviews, so I am sure whoever I go with will be an ok choice.

No problem, I used to be very nervous about online auction sites, or online retailers in general....but I have now purchased a car on ebay, both purchased and resold many phones and electronics on ebay, craigslist, amazon, etc...It all just comes down to common sense I guess...

Good luck with your purchase!

ps, because or your name, I assume your a drummer? I am...
 
Purpl3_Haz3,

Zildjian

Member
Yes I play, and I'm not so much worried about buying online in itself. I'm not really in the position to really afford it right at the moment so really pushing it by buying it, and can't afford to just go buy another one if the person does not back up their warranty, and don't want to wait 6 months to have it sent off, and repaired before getting it back. So I am not worried about buying it online, just who I buy it online from, if you know what I mean. I have narrowed it down to that site, or vapemaster on amazon. He has nothing but positive feedback, but I don't know if he himself will replace it in the first three years, like aroma-tek claims they will, or will I have to send it off to Canada.
 
Zildjian,
Apologies if I re-ask a question but this thread is too long to search through.

The biggest issue I have with my extreme is the bowls that arizer provides. Because the diameter of the hole for air is smaller than the diameter of the bowl itself, all my herb on the outsides of my bowl do not get vaporized. I stir often, but I find that it is very difficult to achieve max efficiency with these bowls. Has anyone tried or could anyone recommend different bowls that are wider and help fix this problem? I have switched to mostly using my vaporite box vape again simply because I am able to get much better "gas mileage" so to speak, with my herb.
 
Radioactive Toy,

vape4life

Banned for life
Interesting, I have never had that problem. With stiring it really shouldn't be an issue...maybe try an elbow pack? Regardless, the EQ has been known for being not the most efficient vape, and now that I own a Solo, which I find much more efficient, my EQ is now up for sale :D

Radioactive Toy said:
Apologies if I re-ask a question but this thread is too long to search through.

The biggest issue I have with my extreme is the bowls that arizer provides. Because the diameter of the hole for air is smaller than the diameter of the bowl itself, all my herb on the outsides of my bowl do not get vaporized. I stir often, but I find that it is very difficult to achieve max efficiency with these bowls. Has anyone tried or could anyone recommend different bowls that are wider and help fix this problem? I have switched to mostly using my vaporite box vape again simply because I am able to get much better "gas mileage" so to speak, with my herb.
 
vape4life,

Stu

Maconheiro
Staff member
I have gone to 100% elbow packing because of this exact reason. IMO the cyclone bowl as designed is pretty useless. The domed screen on the elbow is the only redeeming factor with this design (in my opinion, again). I get consistently good hits from an elbow pack, whereas if I put the same amount of bud into the cyclone bowl, I feel like I'm just sucking air and get much, much less vapor.

:2c:
 
Stu,

pakalolo

Toolbag v1.1 (candidate)
Staff member
Radioactive Toy said:
Apologies if I re-ask a question but this thread is too long to search through.

The biggest issue I have with my extreme is the bowls that arizer provides. Because the diameter of the hole for air is smaller than the diameter of the bowl itself, all my herb on the outsides of my bowl do not get vaporized. I stir often, but I find that it is very difficult to achieve max efficiency with these bowls. Has anyone tried or could anyone recommend different bowls that are wider and help fix this problem? I have switched to mostly using my vaporite box vape again simply because I am able to get much better "gas mileage" so to speak, with my herb.

It's called a cyclone bowl for a reason. Your problem might be overfilling the bowl. The idea is that your draw causes the material to circulate and exposed to the hot air, so you need to fill only about halfway. Watch the bowl and adjust your draw so that you can see the circulation occurring.

It's true that elbow packing gives thicker vapour. Some find that desirable (I sure don't) but if you want the Extreme to deliver hits like your box vape, then give that a try.

I'm not sure what you mean by efficiency. If you mean extracting the maximum from your load, then the Extreme is capable of that. If you mean stretching your stash as far as possible, then the Extreme is not the most effective--but your hot box certainly isn't either.
 
pakalolo,

flotntoke

thoroughly vaped
You can "lift" the screen off its glass ledge for better airflow. There's a couple simple methods way back in this thread. A little bit of distance (1/4" or so) between the bottom of the screen and the small hole it sits on, makes the cyclone effect work pretty well. No stirring required.

For one you clip the end off an elbow screen, funnel the clipped end into the hole and use the ring as a little stand for the regular cyclone screen. Details & pics

http://www.fuckcombustion.com/viewtopic.php?pid=118280#p118280

I can't bring myself to clip an elbow so I use another tweak (sorry - couldn't find the post). Take a thin piece of wire and spiral it kind of like a real loose spring. Make it just the right size to fit in the cyclone and sit on the ledge the screen is on. A scorched & alcohol scrubbed paperclip works OK. Twist it around a sharpie or something close to the right diameter 3 or 4 times. Clip the ends, shape it up, drop it in! It's easy to tweak to just the right size/shape.

When you get the right height off that damned air blocking ring of glass everything swirls around like a little cyclone. It works great - especially for bags - 3 or 4 with no stir. But I'm still hooked on elbow packs with the whip, so no need.


Radioactive Toy said:
Apologies if I re-ask a question but this thread is too long to search through.

The biggest issue I have with my extreme is the bowls that arizer provides. Because the diameter of the hole for air is smaller than the diameter of the bowl itself, all my herb on the outsides of my bowl do not get vaporized. I stir often, but I find that it is very difficult to achieve max efficiency with these bowls. Has anyone tried or could anyone recommend different bowls that are wider and help fix this problem? I have switched to mostly using my vaporite box vape again simply because I am able to get much better "gas mileage" so to speak, with my herb.
 
flotntoke,

Kaptan

Well-Known Member
....Or you can simply just put a elbow screen, opening side down, in the cyclone bowl and then place a flat screen on top to get the same effect and better filtering so no herb falls on the HC. I'm with you, elbow packs are the way to go :brow:
 
Kaptan,

Zildjian

Member
Just got my first EQ 4.0 yesterday. I am stoked smoked my first bag last night. I have a question, and I am sure If i sifted through all 116 pages of this tread I could find my answer, but I'm not going to lie, I am far to high, and lazy to do that. Anyway I digress, What temp is everyone using on this beast, and please tell me in celsius, and farenheight ( speaking of which does anyone know if you can convert the readout to farenheight? )

I'm looking for a smooth hit, something that won't make me choke, and give me the taste of burned weed.
 
Zildjian,

Tim

Active Member
Zildjian said:
Just got my first EQ 4.0 yesterday. I am stoked smoked my first bag last night. I have a question, and I am sure If i sifted through all 116 pages of this tread I could find my answer, but I'm not going to lie, I am far to high, and lazy to do that. Anyway I digress, What temp is everyone using on this beast, and please tell me in celsius, and farenheight ( speaking of which does anyone know if you can convert the readout to farenheight? )

I'm looking for a smooth hit, something that won't make me choke, and give me the taste of burned weed.

http://vwvape.com/PDF/Arizer/Q.html

Page 2 says that it's in the menu. My temp really depends on the herb. For some, I can squeeze out some vapor at 170C or 180C. Some, I don't even bother with temps that low: I just go straight to 200C or 210C. So, always start low, like everyone says.

Here's a simple converter fro C to F.
http://www.wbuf.noaa.gov/tempfc.htm
 
Tim,

tdavie

Unconscious Objector
Thought I'd pop in here and mention that I had not used my EQ in a while (a few months?) because when I was packing to move to a new place one of the items that inadvertently got discarded was the power brick/adapter for the EQ. That's it, dead in the water.

Anyways, after unpacking most of my computer stuff at my new place, I was staring at the power cable for an external DVD burner (LG GE20), quite stoned and decided to see if it would work with the EQ. It does, for about 3 days now :)

Tom
 
tdavie,

flotntoke

thoroughly vaped
Zildjian said:
Just got my first EQ 4.0 yesterday. I am stoked smoked my first bag last night. I have a question, and I am sure If i sifted through all 116 pages of this tread I could find my answer, but I'm not going to lie, I am far to high, and lazy to do that. Anyway I digress, What temp is everyone using on this beast, and please tell me in celsius, and farenheight ( speaking of which does anyone know if you can convert the readout to farenheight? )

I'm looking for a smooth hit, something that won't make me choke, and give me the taste of burned weed.

Out of the 116 pages, I'd say maybe half deal with just this! Even if not, it's got to be the most common topic.

It really depends on many factors. Quality of material you're vaping, how you load it, bag or whip, buzz you're looking for, taste preference, whether or not you'll use your ABV, etc. Some people like it just almost to the point of combustion to get the strongest hit & most from their grind. Others like to vape just the THC off.

Best thing is to probably start at 200C and experiment up & down in 10 degree increments from there. Setting at 180C will vape off just the finest stuff and usually gives a nice heady buzz. 230C & up is for serious couch lock. Hard to use for evaluation in one setting, but many like to start a little lower and work their way up 5-10 degrees at a time to get the most flavor & buzz. You'll probably get much better vapor at lower temps with better meds.

I also like a smooth hit and don't like the "burned" taste. So I set it at 185 - 190C for the whip (with elbow pack), sometimes even as low as 180C. It depends on how good my stash happens to be and what else I plan on doing. But 185C usually gives me a nice, smooth, tasty hit for what I vape & a nice buzz. I start at 180C and go up 10 degrees each bag for 3 bags usually if doing them. If I'm trying to get to sleep or totally zoned out I may go all the way up to 215 - 220C with the whip. Harsher hit & a little of that burning taste, but it will def give a heavier buzz. Some people use it at 230C or higher all the time.

There are charts on fc that show what chemical components vape out at what temps, but keep in mind that the temp on the screen may not necessarily be the exact temp of the airflow at the point of vaping. It's the temp at the sensor inside the Q (and probably automatically adjusted). Temp settings seem to be very constant tho, so whatever setting it's on should correspond to your range. For example 200C onscreen might only be 190C at the point of vaporizing (or more or less). But if that's where it is, then setting at 210C would probably be 200C at point of vaporizing (10 degrees more). How much the vape temp is different than your setting onscreen will probably depend on the individual Q, fan on or not, individual user and other factors. There is much discussion here about this also. Some are really bothered by it, but I figure what's the difference as long as it's constant - and my Q sure seems to be.

If you scan this thread you'll find much more discussion about what temp is best and why people like higher or lower temps. Higher temps give a heartier hit and more dopey feeling. Lower temps give super sweet flavor and a headier buzz. But, at the end of the day it's more about what you like best for what you're vaping. Experiment and have fun with it! It's well worth it.

IMO experimenting is one of the best things about the Q. I know some like to set it & forget it, but think you'll enjoy it much more if you find your favorite temp range and go from there.
 
flotntoke,

budballer

Well-Known Member
anybody know the length of the glass heater cover on the EQ? i was thinking about using it for a custom project but i'm not sure if it's long enough.
 
budballer,
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