The Extreme-Q Vaporizer

r1tony · Feb 21, 2011

Hey guys new member and owner of the "Q" v4 for about a month. It is pretty nice for my first vaporizer I enjoy it. I am starting to read through this thread which is super long but I will get there. I know there is tips and tricks (like packing the elbow I read about a min ago) that I need to learn to get the most out of it.

Anyways saying "hi" and hope to contribute.

hereatlast · Feb 21, 2011

Welcome to FC :party:

Your willingness to read through the thread and find your own answers and solutions is certainly welcome. Hope your vaping experience continues down an enjoyable path.

cjb695 · Feb 21, 2011

Hi, I already own the mflb, but i am considering buying this to join my box. I have two quick questions first.
1. How efficient is this vape
2. I have noticed in videos that the ballon does not have the valve seal thing like the volcano. Is that a problem and do you think they will add that in the future
Thanks!

CutePanda · Feb 21, 2011

cjb695 said:
Hi, I already own the mflb, but i am considering buying this to join my box. I have two quick questions first.
1. How efficient is this vape

It's extremely efficient and worth every single penny. I have been combusting for about 3 years and the effects I get from the EQV don't make me want to go back. I also own a MFLB which I bought a month after my EQV for its portable use.

2. I have noticed in videos that the ballon does not have the valve seal thing like the volcano. Is that a problem and do you think they will add that in the future
Thanks!

It's not that big of a problem when you smoke in groups. You just have to tell your friends to put their thumb over the valve so the vapor won't escape. You can also use a pencil eraser as a stopper. I am sure they will improve the design since it's what the people want.

Stu · Feb 21, 2011

cjb695 said:
Hi, I already own the mflb, but i am considering buying this to join my box. I have two quick questions first.
1. How efficient is this vape
2. I have noticed in videos that the ballon does not have the valve seal thing like the volcano. Is that a problem and do you think they will add that in the future
Thanks!

While the EQ is very efficient, it is not as effecient as some other vaporizers such as the MFLB and log vapes.

The bags do not have a valve and I doubt that it will be offered in the future. I thought this kinda sucked when I first got it, but it turns out to be a non-event for me. I did bags in the beginning just to try it out, but I have found that using the whip is much more convenient. You shouldn't really need the bag valve as you should be inhaling your bag soon after it's done and therefore no need to have a sealed valve. The glass pick that comes with the EQ works as a stopper if you are concerned about leaving a partially filled bag.

All in all I think it makes a perfect counterpart to the LB as you can tell by my signature.

Cheers!

DeepFried · Feb 21, 2011

CutePanda said:
You just have to tell your friends to put their thumb over the valve so the vapor won't escape. You can also use a pencil eraser as a stopper. I am sure they will improve the design since it's what the people want.

Don't hold your breath for that "improvement" It has been over 3 years now and no improvement on that yet.

Purpl3_Haz3 · Feb 21, 2011

Stu said:
All in all I think it makes a perfect counterpart to the LB as you can tell by my signature.

Cheers!

Definitely agree with this! I have both an EQ and the MFLB, and they go perfect with each other!

steven22 · Feb 21, 2011

I agree as well... I have the Extreme v3 + MFLB.. they complete each other.

I first started out with only the extreme for a few months, while I loved it and was quickly growing in love with vaping, I hated being tied to the unit, which always meant toke up at home right before I leave for a night out . Hoping the high will last long , or risk combusting on a pipe or joint while

When I bought the MFLB, I had no more excuses for combusting. I always had a way to vape no matter where I was. (iv used this bad boy in so many different places now...places where a pipe or paper wouldnt last very long)

the extreme gets used only when im at home and have time to sit down and vape rather than when im busy and on the move. and for entertaining guests.

MFLB sucks at more than 2 people, its too much work and time. extreme is always ready to pump out vapor for a group.

dazza30 · Feb 22, 2011

i have only used an ilote and da buhddha and im thinking about selling my da buddha and getting the extreme q tower . I like low temps and like the idea of knowing what temp im using the dabuddha seems like you can only guess the temps . but im looking for something that has more accuracy using the temps as i want to keep it as safe with out combustion. do you guys think this will be better for me ?

FLskwat · Feb 22, 2011

You like to see a number on a screen (without discussing about the non accuracy of this number...) better then a knob position: get it!
You like doing balloons & whip with only 1 unit: get it!
You want a good aromatherapy device and probably the best "all-in-one" vape on the market (with the cons of any "all-in-one"...): get it!

I really don't think you will have more accuracy to find your sweet point(s) with the temp. display, and I'm sure the whip hits from the Q will be less thick (either CB pack or elbow pack) compared to a 7th floor vape... but hit's thickness might not be on your requisit list, so...

dazza30 · Feb 22, 2011

FLskwat said:
You like to see a number on a screen (without discussing about the non accuracy of this number...) better then a knob position: get it!
You like doing balloons & whip with only 1 unit: get it!
You want a good aromatherapy device and probably the best "all-in-one" vape on the market (with the cons of any "all-in-one"...): get it!

I really don't think you will have more accuracy to find your sweet point(s) with the temp. display, and I'm sure the whip hits from the Q will be less thick (either CB pack or elbow pack) compared to a 7th floor vape... but hit's thickness might not be on your requisit list, so...

yer my point being was there is know temp on the da buddha to tell you i want to keep to around 180 c 200c so im thinking if the Q has good accuracy on the temps it might be better . I more interested in keeping safe levels of toxins .

steven22 · Feb 22, 2011

FLskwat said:
You like to see a number on a screen (without discussing about the non accuracy of this number...) better then a knob position: get it!
You like doing balloons & whip with only 1 unit: get it!
You want a good aromatherapy device and probably the best "all-in-one" vape on the market (with the cons of any "all-in-one"...): get it!

I really don't think you will have more accuracy to find your sweet point(s) with the temp. display, and I'm sure the whip hits from the Q will be less thick (either CB pack or elbow pack) compared to a 7th floor vape... but hit's thickness might not be on your requisit list, so...

Im sure the DBV will have a thicker hit, but even then, the E does the job, it isnt thin on the hits.
just a little bit less than the DBV

plus, after using the MFLB and E for over a year, iv realized that in vaping, clouds dont matter. clouds = wasted vape.

clouds might get you higher faster, but even if you have thin vape (MFLB) all you have to do is wait a couple extra min and you will be high.

hereatlast · Feb 22, 2011

dazza30, I think Flskwat's point is the following (and please correct me if I'm wrong):

The Extreme is not actually going to provide you with accurate temperature. Instead of a dial, the Extreme will provide a number that does not actually correspond to the actual temperature. In any case, if/when buying an Extreme, its important to remember that the temperature on the readout does not give you the temperature your vaping at.

steven22 · Feb 22, 2011

hereatlast said:
dazza30, I think Flskwat's point is the following (and please correct me if I'm wrong):

The Extreme is not actually going to provide you with accurate temperature. Instead of a dial, the Extreme will provide a number that does not actually correspond to the actual temperature. In any case, if/when buying an Extreme, its important to remember that the temperature on the readout does not give you the temperature your vaping at.

yup

I only use the numbers as a reference point. that my particular E will produce vapors from range X-Y. and the 5 degree increments let me play around in between that range.

Im sure its accurate in a sense that each time you increase it 5 degrees, it will heat up 5 degrees hotter. atleast thats what im noticing... I can always tell the difference between 185 and 190 and so on.

FLskwat · Feb 22, 2011

@Steven: as you can see in my sig, I had an EQ, and it does what it says, no doubt. As I stated, IMHO, it's "the best all-in-1 on the market" (though as "all all in ones", you can find better devices in each specific vaping method-balloon, whip etc...) and IT PERFECTLY DOES THE JOB (for a good price!).

@Hereatlast: 100% accurate interpretation...

@Dazza, to me you can as easily stay on the toxin free temps range with a knob (in fact I am a low temps lover myself and both my digital temp display vapes and my analog temp control vapes give me the same satisfaction, you just need to remember the "temp. borders" of each device)... Therefore there are many reasons too purchase a Q, but I am not sure that's the best one!

dazza30 · Feb 22, 2011

ok thanks for answering my questions I think from what you guys have told me my reason for getting the Q over the da Buddha is wrong , so the da Buddha and the Q dont really give an accurate reading of what the herb is being cooked at . So I wont be any better off with the Q. dont get me wrong the da Buddha is really good and I like the whip , I guess I was looking for more of a thermostat like my iolite has which seems to be more accurate ,

ty14 · Feb 22, 2011

ok so i'm in the market for an sgw waffle bubbler but i'm still saving money.. I have an extreme q so today i ran to my lhs picked up this 9mm grommet bong.. Its the same size as the mouth piece. I heated everything up on 401 degrees and after 10 or 15 minutes i put the herb in and let it set for 5 minutes and began drawing.. It was good vapor just wasn't as thick and cloudy as i wanted.. Would doing an elbow pack at like 450 degrees work better or would i end up combusting?

ttb3 · Feb 22, 2011

ty14 said:
ok so i'm in the market for an sgw waffle bubbler but i'm still saving money.. I have an extreme q so today i ran to my lhs picked up this 9mm grommet bong.. Its the same size as the mouth piece. I heated everything up on 401 degrees and after 10 or 15 minutes i put the herb in and let it set for 5 minutes and began drawing.. It was good vapor just wasn't as thick and cloudy as i wanted.. Would doing an elbow pack at like 450 degrees work better or would i end up combusting?

I start elbows around 205C (i use C and am too lazy to convert). Then move up 5C every few hits or so until I'm not really getting anymore. I would say that you just have to play around with temps until you get it right. Also, I think everyone's unit runs a little differently so trial and error is the way to go.

chucku · Feb 23, 2011

dazza30 said:
ok thanks for answering my questions I think from what you guys have told me my reason for getting the Q over the da Buddha is wrong , so the da Buddha and the Q dont really give an accurate reading of what the herb is being cooked at . So I wont be any better off with the Q. dont get me wrong the da Buddha is really good and I like the whip , I guess I was looking for more of a thermostat like my iolite has which seems to be more accurate ,

Both the DBV and the E deliver world class vaping experiences. Once you find the setting that works best for you, you are golden. Regarding accuracy, think of the DBV as a watch with hour markers at 12:00, 3:00, 6:00 and 9:00 and the E as a watch with all hour and minute markers. Both will keep time (temp) equally well but one will provide more detail.

warren79 · Feb 24, 2011

Well its been 2 weeks with my EQ. I read everyones tips to pack elbows and used to do this but have found that it isnt neccessary. I just throw a "SMALL" amount of bud into the cyclone bowl. About the amount that would fill half the "elbow".....then suck on the whip hard enough to lift that herb up and into the elbow - take a long drag and once I release, the herb just falls back down into the bowl. This elliminates the need to stir because the herb kinda stirs itself when it falls down.Then repeat until its brown but Im usually stoned by the 2nd drag.

When using hard/sticky hash, I do pack the elbow though and 1 bag usually gets me STUPID high.

I must say that I havn't and dont intend smoking ever again unless im on the road and theres no other way but so far it hasn't happened.This thing gets me more ripped than a joint and with the fraction of the amount of herb - IM STILL INLOVE LIKE WE JUST MET.

Tstat · Feb 24, 2011

I still swear by the "raising the screen" method. The small amount that a stainless wire raises the screen makes elbow packing obsolete. I can put a TINY amount in the cyclone now (just enough to cover the screen) and get several nice hits. No stirring, no problem.

luvnthevapor · Feb 24, 2011

Tried using reggie in the Q because I was going through a lot of nugs while "experimenting" with my new toy. Taste and high are still good. Just did one bag at 190 C and feeling good.

VaporNation · Feb 24, 2011

dazza30 said:
ok thanks for answering my questions I think from what you guys have told me my reason for getting the Q over the da Buddha is wrong , so the da Buddha and the Q dont really give an accurate reading of what the herb is being cooked at . So I wont be any better off with the Q. dont get me wrong the da Buddha is really good and I like the whip , I guess I was looking for more of a thermostat like my iolite has which seems to be more accurate ,

I really like the Extreme Q and Da Buddha because you can actually adjust the temperature on the unit. Although the Iolite may have an "accurate thermostat", I can't stand the fact that you can't adjust the vaporizing temp. It always seems like it never gets hot enough for me. However, I absolutely love the Magic Flight even though that one doesn't have temp control. I guess it's because you can control the temp somewhat by the way you inhale and hold the battery.

Purpl3_Haz3 · Feb 25, 2011

Tstat said:
I still swear by the "raising the screen" method. The small amount that a stainless wire raises the screen makes elbow packing obsolete. I can put a TINY amount in the cyclone now (just enough to cover the screen) and get several nice hits. No stirring, no problem.

Would you mind posting a pic of this wire setup? Thanks!

Also, how does this improve the Vape? Is it mor for bags or whip hits? Just trying to make my EQ experience better

FLskwat · Feb 25, 2011

Purpl3_Haz3 said:
Tstat said:

I still swear by the "raising the screen" method. The small amount that a stainless wire raises the screen makes elbow packing obsolete. I can put a TINY amount in the cyclone now (just enough to cover the screen) and get several nice hits. No stirring, no problem.

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Would you mind posting a pic of this wire setup? Thanks!

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