Sticky Brick Junior by Sticky Brick Labs

Vapor_Eyes

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I'm having a hard time getting even extraction with the Junior, even after stirring a few times in a session. I'll put @ 0.1 in the chamber, and on the first 1-2 hits, the vapor is amazing but the load gets baked very unevenly, so I stir, hit it again, it's still not even, so I repeat it just to get more even extraction but by then, I'm just drawing blanks despite still having pieces of greenish herb mixed in with the brown AVB. My hits are all in the 8-15 second range. 1" flame on the lighter, and I pulse the flame towards and away from the intake just like others have recommended.
So it feels like I can either A) get awesome hits with big clouds and just deal with the uneven extraction which makes me feel like I'm wasting herb, or B) stir and vape until its evenly cooked, but those last few hits are nothing but wood taste and I'm wasting butane by trying to get perfectly even extraction. This dilemma happens whether I use coarse or fine grind.

Anything I can do to reduce this occurrence? Should I or shouldn't I tamp the herb down?

Despite that gripe, the vapor out of this thing on the full hits is SERIOUSLY nice. Very smooth, full of flavor.
The easiest way I've found to get an even extraction is by using a very fast draw speed and keeping the carb closed.

I start with a slow to medium draw, and when I can see/taste/feel vapor I increase my draw speed a lot. I draw almost as fast as possible at the end. I continue to hit it for a couple of seconds after removing heat to cool the intake.

Using this technique I get no hot spots. When I first developed this technique I still stirred every hit or two. I've recently been experimenting with no stir at all and it's been working really well.

I can go through a full chamber with no stir. It does tend to get a little bit of a hot spot at the end sometimes, when it is already pretty thoroughly extracted. Because of this I sometimes do a stir at the very end, before the last hit. Sometimes I just empty and save my ABV at that point.
 

Hypno vaper

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Wait a minute.... who just through a brick at me??? It looked like someone from PIU, LoL. It looks like a Rock Maple Jr.

Peace family, I'm a long time member who's been missing in action since hurricane Sandy. She hit us hard and we had to start over with everything, even careers. Went back to school and had to leave the flowers of life alone in order to land the career that I wanted (damn drug tests)!!! Anyway everything back on track and salary "almost" tripled, even helped the wife in doubling her salary....life is ok again. Felt like I wanted to partake again and realized all of my vape gear was in a box in storage....Damn, I did it, I combusted:(. Came back here and immediately got VAS!!!!! I bought an arizer air, then airvape xs, then snagged a Daisy here in the classifieds, then I grabbed a Milaana and thanks to @WakeAndVape I just grabbed a Rock Maple Jr. Brick. And this is just the last 2 weeks LoL. Also got the wife to agree in buying me a Big Poppa Brick for my birthday in a few weeks:rockon:.
I have completely read both Jr. and Sr. threads and I have to say that @StickyBricks customer service and his beautiful energy pulled me in more than @WakeAndVapes vids. So yeah, I'm a Brick Head now. Just waiting on delivery. You are a great bunch here.
 

vapeape77

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It may be overkill but I decided to add a screen, activated coconut charcoal and organic cotton to the mouthpiece chamber. Smoother hits all the way to cashed I think, anyway more testing needed, back to the brick!
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Slow Draw McGraw

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What's has been the prefered method for using S&B concentrate pads with the jr? maximum load on the pad to prevent leak through? I bought a few yesterday to use with extracts and I think this is going to be a beast with derbs.
I actually use the Firefly2 concentrate pads. I kind of smash it flat on the pad rather than have the dab whole sitting on top. I do this to speed up the melting process. I put about half of what I would use in a rig.
 

Asternlemming

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It may be overkill but I decided to add a screen, activated coconut charcoal and organic cotton to the mouthpiece chamber. Smoother hits all the way to cashed I think, anyway more testing needed, back to the brick!
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How well do the dosing capsules work in the SBJ? Does it restrict airflow or degrade flavor much?
 

Vapor_Eyes

taste buds
What's has been the prefered method for using S&B concentrate pads with the jr? maximum load on the pad to prevent leak through? I bought a few yesterday to use with extracts and I think this is going to be a beast with derbs.
You can safely load at least .05 grams. I think .10 would work but I've never loaded that much.
 

Vapor Loop

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It may be overkill but I decided to add a screen, activated coconut charcoal and organic cotton to the mouthpiece chamber. Smoother hits all the way to cashed I think, anyway more testing needed, back to the brick!
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I use a basket screen in the mouthpiece chamber and a second regular in the loading chamber.
 

Asternlemming

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Answered my own question tonight.. Question: do the S&B dosing capsules work in the SBJ? Answer: decidingly well. Did two bowls, one with a capsule and one without. For full disclosure and context to my evening, bowls were seperated by about 2 hours, were two different but both good strains, and with 2 excellent beers in between. Both bowls had the exact same amount. The capsule bowl went first and was pretty damn good. Clouds came easy, taste was good until the end and I felt like I got a hit or two more than usual. Effects were good. Second bowl came last. Hits were amazing. Taste was amazing. Less hits than the capsule bowl but all were full, flavorful and satisfying. Effects were more pronounced but could be somewhat attributable to the beers. Overall the capsules were a bit less satisfying but not tremendously...the convenience means I'll continue to experiment. Also continues to proves the SBJ is a FUCKING beast.
 

vapeape77

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Answered my own question tonight.. Question: do the S&B dosing capsules work in the SBJ? Answer: decidingly well. Did two bowls, one with a capsule and one without. For full disclosure and context to my evening, bowls were seperated by about 2 hours, were two different but both good strains, and with 2 excellent beers in between. Both bowls had the exact same amount. The capsule bowl went first and was pretty damn good. Clouds came easy, taste was good until the end and I felt like I got a hit or two more than usual. Effects were good. Second bowl came last. Hits were amazing. Taste was amazing. Less hits than the capsule bowl but all were full, flavorful and satisfying. Effects were more pronounced but could be somewhat attributable to the beers. Overall the capsules were a bit less satisfying but not tremendously...the convenience means I'll continue to experiment. Also continues to proves the SBJ is a FUCKING beast.
Yeah I've stated in previous pages here that I'm a big fan of using the capsules. All in all I think they retain heat when rotating and flipping better over standard stirring making for quicker session. My Jr is super clean now mostly due to the capsules and mighty screen, no dust bits to clean. I don't find much difference in taste/clouds and tend to think the caps lower the chances of scorching the load anyway. I'm thinking this coconut charcoal I added (although there is more drag) is improving taste by filtering impurities.... or so I hope.
 

hoyo77

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Yeah I've stated in previous pages here that I'm a big fan of using the capsules. All in all I think they retain heat when rotating and flipping better over standard stirring making for quicker session. My Jr is super clean now mostly due to the capsules and mighty screen, no dust bits to clean. I don't find much difference in taste/clouds and tend to think the caps lower the chances of scorching the load anyway. I'm thinking this coconut charcoal I added (although there is more drag) is improving taste by filtering impurities.... or so I hope.
can you tell me about the capsules or link me to the info please
 

WakeAndVape

VapeLife X
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@Hypno vaper welcome back to the land of vape...glad I could help turn your attention towards something special to me personally!

Hopefully VAS will have you chilling with the whole family soon enough.

@TheVapeler dabs in the junior are quite beasty, but one thing to remember that convection dab hits are a lot different from skillet dab hits.

You'll generally get more hits per dab but less volume per pull.

For that reason I personally prefer the dab flower mix...you still get full flower taste with dab punches.

@hoyo77 good looks on the link :cool:
 

Hypno vaper

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Peace everyone, so I finally got might Sticky Brick Jr. yesterday and I have to agree with everything that has already been said. This thing is amazing. Took about one minute to get dialed in thanks to all of the advice here, then it was smooth sailing. It seems like the Vape Gods are screwing with me this week. That, or either they are trying to control my VAS because first my Mi was not working and overheating right out of the box.....then, on my very first session with Jr., my intake cracks LoL. No kidding, using the regular Xing torch, half way through my first bowl the intake cracks on the bottom right at the bend in the neck. No issues though, doesn't affect performance at all so I'm not complaining. By the way, where do I find some of this custom glass for both Jr and Sr.? I can't find it on anyone's website, do I have to go directly to the glassblowers FC thread?

@WakeAndVape: Thank you for the kind words sir. That last photo that you posted was sick!!! Crisp!!! Bricks on, Bricks on Bricks. I hope you don't mind but that photo has become my official wallpaper/screensaver on all of my electronics. Would have been nice to see Sr. in the photo also or maybe one with Sr. by itself, wink wink.

@StickyBricks and @PuffItUp : Are either of you guys planning on doing a Black Friday or cyber Monday sale? My wife's buying me a sticky brick Sr. for my birthday in a few weeks. She's willing to buy it early for me.....because I'm a spoiled little girly boy. However if she could get a better deal by waiting a few weeks for a Black Friday sale then I will control my VAS. It's a gift but I want her to be able to get the best deal possible.
 

WakeAndVape

VapeLife X
@Hypno vaper something tells me you will recieve a PM shortly

Seniõr brick does not take things like cracked intakes lightly!

You can always use the PIU code for 15% off but I do believery theyou have Blk Fri/ Cyb Mon sales.

I might take senior or maybe even hydro too to the wall to get photographed, but it's much easier with junior (naturally) because I take it EVERYWHERE!
...so way more photo ops present themselves

Don't mind if you use the photo for wallpaper at all...in fact I encourage it!
:rockon:
 

Hypno vaper

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@Hypno vaper something tells me you will recieve a PM shortly

Seniõr brick does not take things like cracked intakes lightly!

You can always use the PIU code for 15% off but I do believery theyou have Blk Fri/ Cyb Mon sales.

I might take senior or maybe even hydro too to the wall to get photographed, but it's much easier with junior (naturally) because I take it EVERYWHERE!
...so way more photo ops present themselves

Don't mind if you use the photo for wallpaper at all...in fact I encourage it!
:rockon:


You weren't joking. @Slow Draw McGraw had sent me a PM before you could finish you're post. Awesome.
 

vapen00b

Many vapes & accessories. Always happy to help
You weren't joking. @Slow Draw McGraw had sent me a PM before you could finish you're post. Awesome.

If you hadn't been helped, I'd chime in to send you my spare beta intake (sent from EU, so might take some days) - offer still holds of course, if something went wrong, but @StickyBricks (and of course @Slow Draw McGraw) is great and sure will help you spreading the sticky love! :)
 

Hypno vaper

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@Hypno vaper
It sucks to hear about your intake, at least your Junior is functional for now and you got to witness the incredible service of @StickyBricks and @Slow Draw McGraw.

Welcome to the family! You are going to love the OG Brick when you get one, it's a beauty and a beast, just like Junior.

Thank You, and you are absolutely right. It doesn't affect performance not one bit. I tried to tell @Slow Draw McGraw not to worry about it but he was having none of that. Exceptional is all I can say.

If you hadn't been helped, I'd chime in to send you my spare beta intake (sent from EU, so might take some days) - offer still holds of course, if something went wrong, but @StickyBricks (and of course @Slow Draw McGraw) is great and sure will help you spreading the sticky love! :)

Wow, the love is real over here. Thank you so much @vapen00b but it works just fine.
 
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hinglemccringleberry

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Pardon the newb question, but for those who use the Brick every day, how often do you refill your lighter? And how low do you let it get before purging/refilling? I have almost no experience w/ torches and their nuances so I'm learning as I go.
I'm referring specifically to this one. I'm starting to think I shouldn't let it get much lower than the level in this picture (correct me if I'm wrong about that). Have you noticed a dropoff in performance out of the Junior when you let it get below a certain point, even if the lighter appears to be working normally?

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pushpaw

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Pardon the newb question, but for those who use the Brick every day, how often do you refill your lighter? And how low do you let it get before purging/refilling? I have almost no experience w/ torches and their nuances so I'm learning as I go.
I'm referring specifically to this one. I'm starting to think I shouldn't let it get much lower than the level in this picture (correct me if I'm wrong about that). Have you noticed a dropoff in performance out of the Junior when you let it get below a certain point, even if the lighter appears to be working normally?

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I am also interested in how low others let it get, but I would say that the torch in that picture is still about half full (easily) and you'd be wasting a lot of butane if you purge and refill it that early. I usually refill my torches when the liquid is down to about the bottom seam, basically nearly completely empty. One thing that does seem consistent with all the torches I have tried (which is admittedly only a few) is that as time goes by and the fluid level decreases, you need to adjust the torch strength higher to maintain the same size flame.

I have a couple of these (also sometimes branded as 'Xing') and they are great. The tank is nice is big and even using it as my daily driver it only requires refilling after weeks of use. Only complaint is that my wife finds the button hard to press sometimes. She prefers the Scorch Matador lighter (which appears to be unavailable on Amazon at the moment), but it has a much smaller tank (and a difficult to see through window for determining how full it is.) If we only used the Matador it would need refilling about once a week (I know because we did for a while).

Unrelated to lighters: a while back I had mentioned putting a screen up into the metal ring under the intake, and that I thought it made it so that accidental combustion is less likely. I totally stand by that still, and in fact went and got some 1/2 in screens and put one under the intake tube. A 1/2 in screen fits perfectly in there, directly under the glass intake tube. (This is instead of the one I had put in the metal tube, not in addition to, just to be clear. I took that one out and replaced it with this one.) I have actually put intake screens like this into both my Jr and my full size brick, and I feel certain this lets me get a bit more aggressive with the flame without combusting. (It is still possible to combust, of course, but stopping the actual flame with a screen makes it much less likely.) Pack of 20 1/2 in screens cost me a whole dollar, so totally worth it to me, particularly for the Jr. I found that the Jr felt super easy to accidentally combust with, perhaps because of the shorter intake tube. I had a couple friends combust in the Jr on their first tries using it, but after putting a screen in the intake the only combustion event I've had was my own, and was because I was really pushing it to see how far I could. (I wrote a post about this a few pages back.)

I am curious if any other have tried a screen in the intake like this, and if you could tell the difference.

Part of why I got some smaller screens for under the intake is that I found that the one I had put up in the metal ring actually started collecting abv fluff which apparently flies around up in there when hits are being taken. Having the screen between the glass and wood instead alleviates that, and might also reduce the charring of the wood right under the intake (but I can't tell now, as I already had some charring from before I did this.)

If you couldn't tell, I am still totally in love with my Bricks. In fact I recently got another Brick as a gift for an old friend (split the cost with the friend's bro, in fact) who is going to have one awesome holiday season this year. He doesn't know it yet, but he's gonna get bricked...:D
 

Hypno vaper

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Does anyone know the dimensions of the Hydro Brick Maxx? I mean when it's transformed into the solid brick.
 
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