YaFreekin Right
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Are you saying The Convector is less efficient because of a greater percentage of convection?
Multi-brand Puri5 Titantic 2/Weeke Fenix
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Are you saying The Convector is less efficient because of a greater percentage of convection?
Mrbrown81k
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I find there is a lot of conduction going on with this unit. Its apparent when you load the chamber while it's heating up. You can see lots of vapor leaking. A lot more than I would on the crafty lets say.
nondarb
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I disagree, the mighty/crafty as stated above doesn't require as much air to be pulled through to produce vapor. That's because the oven is hot as hell and is primarily conduction, while I'm not saying that the Fenix is solely convection by any stretch I will say with a degree of certainty that it has more convection than the crafty/mighty. In turn I believe that's one of the primary reasons the crafty and mighty produce more vapor (and take 2x as long to warm up!). The last two temps on the fenix definitely do incur quite a bit of conduction, bu the mighty weeps like a smokebomb in comparison, I'll see if I can't borrow my friends for a side by side .gif .
That said people get too hung up on convection or conduction trying to equate it to some degree of quality.
uhranium
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Looks like our chinese fenix suppliersjust got into glass mouthpieces. It'll cost 2$ if you get it from china.
I also told him on skype about the mighty capsules and he seemed interested.
So far there are no plans for a bigger range of temperatures and bigger battery, but I'll wait for it.
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So, I had another talk with those guys and they are really pissed about what everyonedoesit is doing, namely selling way under the wanted price tag. They told me the retail price should be about 150$ and not under 120$ at all. I was asking about ordering some and he told that in the course of this, the minimum order will be 50 pieces at 39$ with the word from me that it won't end up on the market for less than those 120$.
Also, from his words, everyonedoesit will not receive new convectors so stop waiting for that "back in stock e-mail" . All I can think now is getting some dudes together to hit 2k$ so we can order that batch and sell em for the 120$ online after gifting some friends.
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uhranium
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So, the mouthpiece holder (aka cooling unit on a crafty/mighty) collects oil as well so you can easily reclaim with a q-tip like you would on a mighty. Pretty sweet imho.
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so, let's get shit done here.
what does the shit on the box actually say? Here is a rundown.
"4x2 Mult-Shift PRO" - whatever the PRO is and don't mind the missing i on multi but this just means the 4 temperature levels that can be enhanced by 5°C which makes it 4 temperature levels x 2.
"Parallel Air-Hi" - I don't know what's parallel there, but they just mean it's a convection unit
"Auto Identify (Auto Smoking Identify)" - well this just means the unit stops producing heat once it reached it's set temp. So at 210°C it will not heat further and therefore not burn your material, which is kind of pretty normal for an electronic vape.
"8 kinds of protection" - James told me:
Low volt protection - "Low volt protection is that when the battery level is too low, it will protect itself to avoid damange on battery."
Over voltage protection,
Over current protection, - "Over current protection is when the current in the circuit is too high, there is risk the vaporizer will be damaged. This protection is to protect it from damage."
Short circuit protection,
Open circuit protection,
Overheat protection, - same as auto identify, it just stops heating on the level you choose
Reset protection, - "Reset protection is when you chose 365F in your last vaping, it will stay there for your next vaping. It will not turn to reset."
so in other words, it just remembers your last temperature.
Lithium battery overcharge/over discharge protection
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so, let's get shit done here.
what does the shit on the box actually say? Here is a rundown.
"4x2 Mult-Shift PRO" - whatever the PRO is and don't mind the missing i on multi but this just means the 4 temperature levels that can be enhanced by 5°C which makes it 4 temperature levels x 2.
"Parallel Air-Hi" - I don't know what's parallel there, but they just mean it's a convection unit
"Auto Identify (Auto Smoking Identify)" - well this just means the unit stops producing heat once it reached it's set temp. So at 210°C it will not heat further and therefore not burn your material, which is kind of pretty normal for an electronic vape.
"8 kinds of protection" - James told me:
Low volt protection - "Low volt protection is that when the battery level is too low, it will protect itself to avoid damange on battery."
Over voltage protection,
Over current protection, - "Over current protection is when the current in the circuit is too high, there is risk the vaporizer will be damaged. This protection is to protect it from damage."
Short circuit protection,
Open circuit protection,
Overheat protection, - same as auto identify, it just stops heating on the level you choose
Reset protection, - "Reset protection is when you chose 365F in your last vaping, it will stay there for your next vaping. It will not turn to reset."
so in other words, it just remembers your last temperature.
Lithium battery overcharge/over discharge protection
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nondarb
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If were talking about Jeremy, then I flat out don't believe anything he has to say and don't suggest giving much weight to his words. If you look back to earlier itt you'll note several reps saying nonsensical things to clinch sales and quoting wildly varying prices. "They won't be getting them at that price" sounds like more BS to me. An instance of this in action is the glass MP's, those have been out for months yet he insisted to you that they were new/hot. They've been available from weecke and novel (still unsure who REAL OEM is since they both make that claim!) for months and are pictured earlier in this thread.
Most PRC reps tend to say whatever to whomever to make sales and inspire confidence in their product. They will run down other brands, all claim to be the OEM and all claim to be the cheapest. The only exception to this I've found personally was Ludo from Bauway, but my dealings with him were limited. I'm sure there are other exceptions, but the weecke/novel reps aren't among them..
KeroZen
Chronic vapaholic
Auto Smoking Identify for the lulz! 
So much bullshit around this vape from day one! But hey it seems to be working and most reports are positive, maybe that's the only thing that matters?
What would worry me is if there were really several OEMs as we saw for the Titan, with clones of clones of clones and so much variation in quality that it was simply not possible to recommend this vape. It all depended on the factory that did it and what kind of second hand electronics components they were able to source on the Shenzhen market...
So much bullshit around this vape from day one! But hey it seems to be working and most reports are positive, maybe that's the only thing that matters?
What would worry me is if there were really several OEMs as we saw for the Titan, with clones of clones of clones and so much variation in quality that it was simply not possible to recommend this vape. It all depended on the factory that did it and what kind of second hand electronics components they were able to source on the Shenzhen market...
Meach
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Some of the reps are just plain goofy..why would they care if a vendor who placed a custom order is blowing out the units just over wholesale..the factory got paid for the units as long as they didn't have a contract with the vendor to advertise for below msrp all is well...I'm not a retail expert but it all sounds a little silly to me for the factory to be upset since the vendor is the one not making a huge profit off the units...most 510 drip tips fit the mouthpiece area with a thicker oring you can get a snug fit and have anytype of drip tip youd like
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uhranium
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didn't storz and bickel also put a fixed price tag on their products? my local headshop still sells the volcano for 350-400€.
Mighty also for 350€. I've seen Mighty for 280€ online and also can get a 250€ directly from Storz and Bickel since i sent my old unit that got kayaking in. With that info I went to the headshop, trying to buy the mighty for 280 since I get the item directly and they can make some money of me (instead of giving all the money to SB directly), you think they went down 10€ with the price? nah.
And that's why I still have no vape right now
Mighty also for 350€. I've seen Mighty for 280€ online and also can get a 250€ directly from Storz and Bickel since i sent my old unit that got kayaking in. With that info I went to the headshop, trying to buy the mighty for 280 since I get the item directly and they can make some money of me (instead of giving all the money to SB directly), you think they went down 10€ with the price? nah.
And that's why I still have no vape right now
Mrbrown81k
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I did a comparison and you're right. Its about the same in the end. Atleast with the crafty..
Gardenerjeff
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What is the address for the glasd mouthpeice?
Looks like our chinese fenix suppliersjust got into glass mouthpieces. It'll cost 2$ if you get it from china.
I also told him on skype about the mighty capsules and he seemed interested.
So far there are no plans for a bigger range of temperatures and bigger battery, but I'll wait for it.
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So, I had another talk with those guys and they are really pissed about what everyonedoesit is doing, namely selling way under the wanted price tag. They told me the retail price should be about 150$ and not under 120$ at all. I was asking about ordering some and he told that in the course of this, the minimum order will be 50 pieces at 39$ with the word from me that it won't end up on the market for less than those 120$.
Also, from his words, everyonedoesit will not receive new convectors so stop waiting for that "back in stock e-mail" . All I can think now is getting some dudes together to hit 2k$ so we can order that batch and sell em for the 120$ online after gifting some friends.
CuckFombustion
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It's a policy to protect the vendors from undercutting each other. Also keeps brick and mortar stores competitive vs online retailers with less overhead. It also protects the value of the brand. People often equate quality with price point.
Meach
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Thanks that makes sense. I recently contacted my rep and she confirmed single units can be sold but price is now at $100 + shipping..
Hi Meach
,thank you for your order.
We have new rules on Fenix vaporizer.
MOQ is 50 kits.
If you need quantity smaller than 50 kits, unit price is 100USD not including shipping cost.
Hi Meach
,thank you for your order.
We have new rules on Fenix vaporizer.
MOQ is 50 kits.
If you need quantity smaller than 50 kits, unit price is 100USD not including shipping cost.
uhranium
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print out labels, stick em on, get some postman to pick up the shit from your home. sender keeps some money for his work.
easy as f***combustion
I have time on my hands, but I am not reputable and also I have to pay 20% to customs before I can import stuff, so not the best guy around here
easy as f***combustion
I have time on my hands, but I am not reputable and also I have to pay 20% to customs before I can import stuff, so not the best guy around here
Mrbrown81k
Well-Known Member
everyonedoesit told me 3-4 weeks till they're back in stock. Hope thats true! Also not 100% sure who I was talking to wasnt automated. haha
shaolinmilk
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Anyone with a CF/CFX care to compare this product? Please send me a PM if you could as I don't want to flood this thread about other vapes.
Kaptan
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I brought my Convector to Punta Cana to use as a throw-away vape. One of the Butlers was a very happy man the day I left. It performed well even with the terrible quality that is only available there. I could not grind or break up the herb, so I just stuffed full buds (not really buds, more like sticky dirt) in and it worked well. I would consider another one only at it's current price point as I do not think this unit is worth more than $70. It is insane that these Chinese manufactured vapes are being sold at $150.
Meach
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At $70 I think any vendor would have no problem selling out..this is am excellent on the go or "throw away" vape ...agree at the $100-$150 price there are many options you could go with that offer temp control, glass airpaths etc...I found an eBay seller asking $100 and other sites asking $150....wish I would have ordered at least 3 when I got mine