Thanks for all of that info. I have a very well stocked head shop in town so I will go there and get a nice little bong that's 18.8 mm.Mr. Smoke No More said:
The 95 to 19 thing came from an earlier post in this thread about a guy selling a stem on etsy.com. some have been using it with their vapor bong setup.
Hey guys
Ordered my unit yesterday from www.gratefulbuys.com and they threw in free international shipping and a free medium space case so Im cheering! A few questions though - I have read the entire thread and I have learned that the cyclone bowl is the weakest link in the whole operation. I have been looking at a few websites at the aftermarket cyclone bowls and elbows - Are any of them better than the stock bowl or elbow performance wise, or will it just be an aesthetic difference?
Ordered my unit yesterday from www.gratefulbuys.com and they threw in free international shipping and a free medium space case so Im cheering! A few questions though - I have read the entire thread and I have learned that the cyclone bowl is the weakest link in the whole operation. I have been looking at a few websites at the aftermarket cyclone bowls and elbows - Are any of them better than the stock bowl or elbow performance wise, or will it just be an aesthetic difference?
finchrock24
Proud MMJ Patient
If need be, I can get a better pic of the vape to bong setup.
I have been trying somethin new though...just taking and putting the mini whip on and little just holding the unit with the end of the whip pressing against the bowl of the bong, where the herb would go to be burned. Not really any air tight connection, but I tired it and I see no vapor escape and I feel the hits are better with the super short whip. I plan on getting another mini whip and a spare glass elbow so I'll have a mini bong attachment system.
I have been trying somethin new though...just taking and putting the mini whip on and little just holding the unit with the end of the whip pressing against the bowl of the bong, where the herb would go to be burned. Not really any air tight connection, but I tired it and I see no vapor escape and I feel the hits are better with the super short whip. I plan on getting another mini whip and a spare glass elbow so I'll have a mini bong attachment system.
the electrician
Well-Known Member
this guide i wrote should vastly improve performance over the cyclone bowl. some people also recommend the whip from a vapor tower or something like that. the custom cyclone bowls and that wont (i dont think) offer any gain over the stock, other than looking niceRooster99 said:
Mr. Smoke No More
Can't stop the head rush!
I think our man Clear_Domes custom elbows have a larger inner diameter, which provides better airflow. Of course this means you need wider tubing as well. Plus they look sick!Rooster99 said:
finchrock24
Proud MMJ Patient
Anyone think that this could be used for greater efficiency? Looks like it might place the herbs closer to the heating element.
http://cgi.ebay.com/UPGRADED-18mm-G...tem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item563d33cbcb
http://cgi.ebay.com/UPGRADED-18mm-G...tem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item563d33cbcb
Pappy
shmaporist
Queried Seller... "The black part is made of aluminum and the screen is 0.75. The tube with is a little 0.375. This is a truly excellent whip only available from us."finchrock24 said:
Too bad! The aluminum is a deal killer for me. But finchrock makes a valid point. As he and numerous others have espoused the stock Arizer Cyclone bowl leaves something to be desired. I think the herb should be closer to the heating element. Aside from electrician's home made remedy that leaves a few options plus some stuff on Etsy.
https://www.vaporstore.com/proddetail.php?prod=VT-DXHK
http://www.etsy.com/shop/oregonglassblower
http://www.vaporwarehouse.com/ez_change_whip_kit.html
http://cgi.ebay.com/UPGRADED-18mm-G...ultDomain_0&hash=item563d33cbcb#ht_3278wt_913
Let's list and inventory so we can figure out our options. Please post reviews!
finchrock24
Proud MMJ Patient
I actually have a vapor brothers style whip that I tired last night and it work better in my opinions from. This is just from one session though...need to try again to confirm my thoughts. I laid my EQ on its side and just covered the screen on the VB style whip. packed it down and let it rip. Got 5 really really good hits on less herb then what I would put in the elbow.
I think I'll bite on the two piece whip. It combines the style of the Volcano's bowl in the whip like the VB. I like it. Aluminum doesn't scare me...i need some hair on my chest anyway!
I think I'll bite on the two piece whip. It combines the style of the Volcano's bowl in the whip like the VB. I like it. Aluminum doesn't scare me...i need some hair on my chest anyway!
the electrician
Well-Known Member
haha yea, pretty much my first thought when i saw the tubes.x-sploit said:
what im unsure of with the dual screen whips, barring the ez change one is how hot they must get. seems like youd need oven gloves on to take it apart. its also a bit wide for my tastes, such a small hole in the heating element shouldnt be paired with a massive 19mm diameter bowl in my mind. however, having the weed sat immobile is exactly what youre after
i favoured leaving the extreme on its side for a while, just recently set it back upright for a change. its easier to use on its side with no worries about the weed not being packed in (with my 1 screen set up that is) but i dunno how it effects results. since the heat from the element will heat the surrounding glass more than the bowl id say its less likely to leave vapour trailing out of the whip when youre not hitting it. since turning it upright again i like to cover the mouthpiece with my thumb or something
these days im leaning towards leaving to extreme to bong duties, using it as you would a heat gun (at which its a bloody destroyer as i recall) and picking up a vaporbrothers for whip duty. a long term plan
Pappy
shmaporist
Me too. I've been using Da Buddha as my day to day vape and the EQV as my party vape. But a better whip solution could change all that. I do believe the herb should be closer to the heating element and the screen system on the cyclone bowl should be less prone to impurities and clogging.the electrician said:
So I went to the shop and got a bong as well as a size adapter and some extra elbows.
This is the result.
You can barely see the vapor when it's in the chamber but boy does this thing hit hard. I can't wait until my ice cubes freeze.
It's kind of weird too, the fan at its highest speed does not have enough airflow to cause the bong to bubble, I have to inhale and pull it through. It works great but somehow I thought it would be able to bubble itself.
The setup. I am just using a short whip for now but I may use a longer one so I don't have to stand up and use it.
The adapter.
This is the result.
You can barely see the vapor when it's in the chamber but boy does this thing hit hard. I can't wait until my ice cubes freeze.
It's kind of weird too, the fan at its highest speed does not have enough airflow to cause the bong to bubble, I have to inhale and pull it through. It works great but somehow I thought it would be able to bubble itself.
The setup. I am just using a short whip for now but I may use a longer one so I don't have to stand up and use it.
The adapter.
the electrician
Well-Known Member
the bottleneck then becomes the small opening in the element im finding. the vapor brothers one looks better designed, its a larger opening in the glass enclosure with several small holes inside, kinda like how the herbalaire has those multiple holes in it. i reckon thats gonna do a better job at heating the amount of weed in use, as the two diameters (of the bowl and air outlet) should only differ by a couple mm. but then again you cannot so easily pick up a vaporbrothers and hold it to a bongPappy said:
i had that exact same bong as the one posted above me a few months back. my advice is not tot put it in the freezer and then drop it. the melting ice causes it to be slippery, and the cold may make it more brittle i dont know im not a chemist
You could put a screen in your adapter or iam getting a carbon filter and putting a screen in it and then hooking the extreme q up upside down into the carbon filter/adapter(where the cyclone bowl goes on the heating element) this way it doesn't have to travel through a bunch of tubing,instead its pretty much direct vaporIIDXBoss said:
stickstones
Vapor concierge
CD made something like this and I think he still does. I liked the one I got.gim said:
tdavie
Unconscious Objector
Hi Saeton. I don't leave the fan on while doing hits. I find I get better taste/flavor this way and can inhale at my own speed rather than being governed by the fan.saeton said:
That having been said, g/f leaves the Extreme on her bedside table turned on, and if having insomnia takes a few forced air hits. At a high temperature it usually puts her out like a light within a minute of forced air hits.
Tom
gim
Well-Known Member
Recently on a suggestion I saw I've been doing short puffs repeatedly till my lungs are full, then 'french exhaling' or whatever you want to call it.saeton said:
Puff on it almost like a cigar, for some reason that seems to net me the most vapor at the lowest temp. I'm guessing because the hot air goes through the herb and the element heats up to replace the missing hot air.
finchrock24
Proud MMJ Patient
This is my latest creation. If I understand xploit correctly, we are on the same page with this one. I took the screen out of my VB style whip and put it in my downstem of my little water piece. I then used the EQ as a heat gun. The first time I did it at 230 and accidentally got some herb on the heater which I quickly watch turn into a cherry and produce some classic skunk smelling smoke and.
Take 2
Clean up my little mess and put the screen a little further down in order to precent the heater coming in direct contact with the herbs. I also backed the temp down to 210 and watched my vapor density with more care on the second hit. The first hit clouded up REAL fast but i was too busy trying to balance everything to notice. This time my hit was a little thin because I didn't set the EQs heater tip all the way in the downstem.
Take 3
Stir up the herbs and re pack. Still at 210 I set the heater all the way seated in the downstem. Get a nice thick cloud milking, but not nearly has quickly as the first take...I know my temp is good and techniqe is there now. Finish out the rip....yeah...thats what I'm talking about! HUGE cloud of great vapor. SUFFICIENTLY medicated. used two pinches of herb!
I'm still testing different temps and amounts of herbs and draw techniques, etc etc but I can tell this is a good way to vape it for me personally. It is a little cumbersome and you do have to be gentile holding the glass and the EQ. I move real slow with that in my hands inverted in the water piece like that because the heater element wasn't designed to have that kind of leverage put on it (suppose it were to wiggle or something).
Time for round 2!
Take 2
Clean up my little mess and put the screen a little further down in order to precent the heater coming in direct contact with the herbs. I also backed the temp down to 210 and watched my vapor density with more care on the second hit. The first hit clouded up REAL fast but i was too busy trying to balance everything to notice. This time my hit was a little thin because I didn't set the EQs heater tip all the way in the downstem.
Take 3
Stir up the herbs and re pack. Still at 210 I set the heater all the way seated in the downstem. Get a nice thick cloud milking, but not nearly has quickly as the first take...I know my temp is good and techniqe is there now. Finish out the rip....yeah...thats what I'm talking about! HUGE cloud of great vapor. SUFFICIENTLY medicated. used two pinches of herb!
I'm still testing different temps and amounts of herbs and draw techniques, etc etc but I can tell this is a good way to vape it for me personally. It is a little cumbersome and you do have to be gentile holding the glass and the EQ. I move real slow with that in my hands inverted in the water piece like that because the heater element wasn't designed to have that kind of leverage put on it (suppose it were to wiggle or something).
Time for round 2!
the electrician
Well-Known Member
thats it lad, works like a fucking charm doesnt it. id suggest moving the screen down a bit, like thisfinchrock24 said:
that way you can sit the extreme in place without worrying about setting weed ablaze and reduce the stress on your arm perhaps
heres a couple classics from a while back. probably the worst shots i couldve taken, its far more impressive in person
i remember using 190 or 195 C for the most part, not sure what that translates to with regards to the q