Dynavap VapCap
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StormyPinkness
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Oh man, I totally forgot about that. I'm pretty sure you're glass is what got me wanting that kind of color in the first place and I just totally forgot. I was even talking about that color in another thread. Can't wait until you start getting this stuff out there for sale.Looks avacado to me. I have jade but its not the 70s vibe (posted photo way back somewhere).
I'll look for avocado next time I'm buying colored glass tubes. I agree, I like that 70s vibe ... my childhood!
syrupy
Authorized Buyer
@PeteSeattle I love that jade piece! Also, you should consider removing the "Noob" from your tag line. 
PeteSeattle
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@StormyPinkness Lol you guys flatter me.@PeteSeattle I love that jade piece! Also, you should consider removing the "Noob" from your tag line.
Until I can get down the gong shape then I'll consider removing "noob"
Edit ... wow, that was tough to type ... only 2 caps and I'm done! I usually do 3 caps a sesh.
As for turbulated glass condenser or not....I have never used the one with the spiral cuts and, frankly, don't see any need beyond liking the aesthetic of it.
Good luck, enjoy your VC's, let us know how they worked out for you.
I too didn't see a need for the turbulated condenser. I much rather have something that is functional over fashionable. An indeed these condenser tubes do cause the air coming in from the air inlet hole (carb hole) to be swirl around towards the bowl. Idk why but I do prefer the turbulated tube in my og body and miss it when it's not in use.
@PeteSeattle bro loving the glass you definitely have talent and an eye for the glass designing I wish you well in your vong blowing.
How thick are some of those pieces? I love how they do look thicker probably would hold up better to abuse or neglect.
CuckFombustion
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My Omni came in today. I'm so impressed with the amount of engineering that went into something the size of a cigarette. I got mine with the Damascus. Love the weight that it adds. It really stabilizes the turn while heating. Happy to be in the vapcap club.
How do you insert images? I used imgur. Is there an easier way?
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Vapor_Eyes
taste buds
Copacetic
Somewhere North of The Wall
My Omni came in today. I'm so impressed with the amount of engineering that went into something the size of a cigarette. I got mine with the Damascus. Love the weight that it adds. It really stabilizes the turn while heating. Happy to be in the vapcap club.
How do you insert images? I used imgur. Is there an easier way?
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HAHAHA, what a great first post!
Welcome to FC, and Dynavap
If that's the start of your VapCap collection, I can't wait to see what you end up with
(best to warn your wallet now that a collection is inevitable
)(Sorry I replied to you already but somehow it didnt show your original message and I couldnt edit it to include a quote so nere it is again):
Are you saying that you do notice an improvement in functionality/vapor production when you use the turbulated condenser in comparison to the regular one?
If there is a difference then I will hope to pick up a few of the turbulated ones to try at some point.
Also separately for anybody here, I have just looked more closely at the 18 mm blackwood VonG I ordered from George and I cannot see any way to actually use it to attach either the vapcap OG or the omnivap to a water tool. I just assumed that the mouthpiece or body of the vapcaps would fit snugly inside the opening on the VonG but it doesnt fit at all, the hole is just too small.
I tried removing the omnivap mouthpiece and the narrow condenser tube does fit inside it but very loosely. The only way I can see it working is to hold the vapcaps in direct line with the small opening on the VonG, but surely this is not what is intended?
Am I missing something here? I feel like I must be I am rather baffled but am having a rough patch right now and my brain is not working well, the wifi is playing up and this website isnt working properly for me, maybe my tablet though so any help is well appreciated as always.
Copacetic
Somewhere North of The Wall
You don't use the mouthpiece or bodies from other models of VC with the VonG bodies, just the Titanium tip (bowl).
Just insert the Ti tip into the end of the VonG, then insert the VonG into your bubbler or whatever, and bob's your uncle!
There is no way to use the OG with the VonG body, but the plastic mouthpiece can be used in any glass piece with a 14mm female joint (or any 18mm piece with a 14-18mm adapter).
Good luck!
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I've just remembered that I've seen lots of pic's of VonGs with Omni mouthpieces in them, so I'm surprised that you can't get the Omni mouthpiece/condenser tube to fit into the opposite end of the VonG to where the Ti tip fits?
Can you post pic's of what you've attempted?
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Vapor Trails
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Here's a quick drawing of what it looks like.
Notice the VapCap Clicks twice instead of once? I've only seen units to click once at temp, and once when below vaping range. Does everyone's click twice when heating, or is it something to do with the heater coil surrounding the VapCap?
I wish I knew what to buy. It really does seem like the most efficient heating method for the VapCap. Can anyone guide us to an exact atomizer (or whatever that is in the video) to purchase that expose the coils like this? I'll try to find the model (eLeaf) in the video again. Edit: Can't find it.
Oh! Just ordered my VapCap, and added the Turbulated Condenders to hopefully cool vapor if needed, or add some change of vapor tickle. Not really sure what the spiral glass inserts do...lol. I'd be interested to know. The site doesn't describe their purpose.
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Okay thanks very much, I was missing something!
Yes that seems to fit, I guess it is satisfactory to use the omnivap this way with no need for the condenser?
Now that I think about it this may allow for a better airflow and larger hits through a water tool, in comparison to using the vapcap OG mouthpiece into an 18 to 14 mm joint reducer. But I havent even used the vapcaps yet, not for anothr week at least, and havent yet developed a proper understanding of the airflow factors and permutations among the different models.
So I cant even guess right now how the airflow will be from the Ti tip straigt into the VonG without the carb hole from the body, maybe the airflow will be greater in through the tip without the body attached? Just thinking aloud, no need to answer that for me yet I will begin experiementing soon after my homeopathy finishes next week.
I am still reading from earlier in the forum, but am yet to see a single user report of how the VonG works for them that's all.
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It's extremely hard to judge if the vapor production is improved at least for me it is. If there is an improvement I would say it is minimal. With that said based on my observations and use over the past few months I enjoy my OG the most with the turbulated tube in it. Also the way the reclaim builds up in there looks obviously different.
There is a difference how noticeable is it well that's hard to put into words and accurately describe. I know I've read others on here say that there is a different as well. Maybe others can share more experiences with them or not.
I do enjoy looking at the reclaim build up in the turbulated condenser after every hit, sometimes I get lost just looking at it.
Brilliant device sir!
Okay I just took a crash course on uploading images but Im no computer whizz and have a somewhat autistic brain when it comes to anything practical so I hope this works.
First image is the Ti tip alone direct into the 18mm VonG. I checked the airflow by drawing on the other end of the VonG and it is actually very good, far greater than the airflow with the body attached and carb closed, so clearly without the body on the tip there is much greater airflow which should be a good thing:
Next 2 images show first the diameters of the inside of the VonG and the omnivap mouthpiece side by side, and then the 2 attached as much inserted as possible, but not inserted at all because it just wont fit inside one bit:
And finally is an image of the Ti tip removed and the omnivap condenser tube loosely fotted inside the VonG. I bet it could work like this but it wont be airtight and will rely on concentration to keep it aligned.
I hope these images can be viewed. I followed the instructions exactly for which a link was suitably provided a page or two ago. If not any moderator assistance will be welcome.
So at the moment, unless there is another trick I am missing here, it would seem that the Ti tip direct into the 18mm VonG is the only, and optimal way to go, with very good airflow and ease of use.
Edit: Hooray, it worked! Im so proud of myself and my slow brain, and I feel like I have finally arrived at the party! (I still cant type though, just edited a dozen typos!)
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herbalist33
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Okay I just took a crash course on uploading images but Im no computer whizz and have a somewhat autistic brain when it comes to anything practical so I hope this works.
First image is the Ti tip alone direct into the 18mm VonG. I checked the airflow by drawing on the other end of the VonG and it is actually very good, far greater than the airflow with the body attached and carb closed, so clearly without the body on the tip there is much greater airflow which should be a good thing:
Next 2 images show first the diameters of the inside of the VonG and the omnivap mouthpiece side by side, and then the 2 attached as much inserted as possible, but not inserted at all because it just wont fit inside one bit:
And finally is an image of the Ti tip removed and the omnivap condenser tube loosely fotted inside the VonG. I bet it could work like this but it wont be airtight and will rely on concentration to keep it aligned.
I hope these images can be viewed. I followed the instructions exactly for which a link was suitably provided a page or two ago. If not any moderator assistance will be welcome.
So at the moment, unless there is another trick I am missing here, it would seem that the Ti tip direct into the 18mm VonG is the only, and optimal way to go, with very good airflow and ease of use.
Edit: Hooray, it worked! Im so proud of myself and my slow brain, and I feel like I have finally arrived at the party! (I still cant type though, just edited a dozen typos!)
Right, I think I can help you here (although I don't own a Vong, so if I'm wrong I'm sure someone will correct me).
When you want to use the omni with the vong, you need to remove the glass body from your omni, and replace it with the vong. Think of the vong as a different 'body' for the Omnivap. So you need to take out the ti tip and put that in the wider end of the Vong, and then remove the mouthpiece and condenser from the Omnivap and insert them into the other end of the Vong. If need be I can try to draw a crappy diagram to explain what I mean?
The mouthpiece/condenser should fit snugly into the Vong using o-rings to make a seal, they should not be loose.
Also, I was under the impression that the Vongs still require a condenser tube inside. If you only bought the 'Vong body' then you probably didn't receive a condenser tube. If you have a regular ti woody you could use the condenser from that (or you can purchase condensers from Dynavap). I'm sure the Vong would work without a condenser, but probably not as well as it should.
I hope that helps!
Peace
Okay thanks for that, clearly this matter needs clarifying for the masses if it hasnt been done already.
That makes it sound a little more awkward and tedious. I was thrilled at the thought that simply attaching the Ti tip to the VonG would work, it would be so easy like that. I dont have a Ti woody, just an OG and omnivap, not used either yet. I could always purchase a separate condenser if it would be an easier option than disassmbling the omnivap every time to use with water.
I will wait and see if others can confirm what you are saying from experience and if it still isn't clear, I will contact George directly, just seeking answers here first naturally.
Okay I just tried that and yes I think you are probably correct. Here are some pictures:
I think it may work just as well without the mouthpiece also screwed onto the condenser, as the O ring on the condenser should ensure air tightness.
Airflow still seems good and very open without the glass or Ti body attached to the tip.
Hopefully case closed!
Edit: an afterthought, I think it may be wiser to actually screw the Ti mouthpiece onto the condenser as it was a bit tricky to pull the condenser tube out of the VonG without the mouthpiece on.
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FreddieFresh
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You can use it with or without the condenser. If you prefer it without for ease of use there should be no problem but there will be vapor condensation on the inside of the wood that way
Okay just a very basic query here please anybody. I want to order some isoproply for when I begin using the vapcaps, I heve never used it before and have no real experience cleaning vapes/glass etc.
I generally stay well away from chemicals as I am extremely chemically sensitive, but It seems paople claim that as long as you rinse off after using it, and let it air dry, it is 100% safe and there is absolutely no trace of iso left.
So Im hoping it will be completely safe for me to soak the vaporizers this way to clean. I feel like it is kind of essential for best results from what I have read. I want it ready just in case the dreaded combustion occurs!
It is quite cheap, Im just wondering if any old 99.9% pure iso is as good as any other, in which case I will just go for the cheapest off of Amazon or ebay. Thank you for any advice.
I generally stay well away from chemicals as I am extremely chemically sensitive, but It seems paople claim that as long as you rinse off after using it, and let it air dry, it is 100% safe and there is absolutely no trace of iso left.
So Im hoping it will be completely safe for me to soak the vaporizers this way to clean. I feel like it is kind of essential for best results from what I have read. I want it ready just in case the dreaded combustion occurs!
It is quite cheap, Im just wondering if any old 99.9% pure iso is as good as any other, in which case I will just go for the cheapest off of Amazon or ebay. Thank you for any advice.
Copacetic
Somewhere North of The Wall
Don't soak any wood in ISO!
It'll ruin it
All other glass, stainless steel, titanium parts will be fine to soak in ISO.
I've soaked Dynavap O-rings without issue too, but only for a few minutes at a time, not overnight.
If you're using a condenser tube in your Vong it should stay clean and free from reclaim for a looooong time.
When it does need cleaning I do it with an old sneaker lace (the Phat kind).
I put one end in my shop vise (although I could just tie it to something solid too), and slip the body on to it.
I drip a little ISO on the lace near the middle then hold it tight with one hand, while I shuttle the body back and forth on the taught lace with the other.
any 99.9% ISO is good. I always look for the best bargain.Thank you. I hadnt actually considered cleaning the wooden VonG yet actually, hadnt got that far, so you have given me something to go on there before I even considered it. But as you say, with a condenser tube inside it it will not be necessary for quite a while. So this additional factor (the need to clean the wooden VonG eventually) just confirms to me that I should avoid using the VonG without the condenser tube inside.Don't soak any wood in ISO!
It'll ruin it
All other glass, stainless steel, titanium parts will be fine to soak in ISO.
I've soaked Dynavap O-rings without issue too, but only for a few minutes at a time, not overnight.
If you're using a condenser tube in your Vong it should stay clean and free from reclaim for a looooong time.
When it does need cleaning I do it with an old sneaker lace (the Phat kind).
I put one end in my shop vise (although I could just tie it to something solid too), and slip the body on to it.
I drip a little ISO on the lace near the middle then hold it tight with one hand, while I shuttle the body back and forth on the taught lace with the other.
I was thinking purely of the omnivap (with Ti and glass bodies) and the OG, just for regular cleaning, I just wanted to be sure any old iso is just as good as any other (99% pure), and am presuming that it wont pose a health hazard for my chemical sensitivity if washed off and dried, I just cant take any risks you see.
I will order some iso so that it arrives before I use the new vapes in case I combyst while learning, but I will be erring on the side of caution.
Thanks for the useful tips!
syrupy
Authorized Buyer
I have a turb condeser, and prefer it slightly to the straight condenser. It's difficult to say for sure, but my impression is the vapor is a little thicker. Maybe the vapor churning around slows things down enough to thicken it? Also, it looks pretty cool when rolling the VC while heating. 
Thanks, it seems that a few people seem to prefer the turbulated condensers, without quite being able to put their finger on it. At $10 for two, it seems well worth me grabbing a few next time I order from George, (I have a strong feeling I will place another order, even before the vapcaps have touched my lips yet!)I have a turb condeser, and prefer it slightly to the straight condenser. It's difficult to say for sure, but my impression is the vapor is a little thicker. Maybe the vapor churning around slows things down enough to thicken it? Also, it looks pretty cool when rolling the VC while heating.