Discontinued VapeXhale Cloud EVO

HellsWindStaff

Dharma Initiate
Can't you just jack the temp to high and draw a few times to clean out the bamboo?

Maybe but I usually just ISO q tip when it gets really really filthy, it's really not as bad as it looks :p green light was on too.

I start mine high so maybe that has something to do with my relatively clean bamboo. I've never had to fill clean it just the q tip at the top and I think I've done that twice lol
 

Vital

Well-Known Member
I recently cleaned my EVO after having so much gunk from my ignorant first concentrate session. Definitely look back in the thread for detailed explanations on how to do it. I'll give you a couple tips though.

1. However much liquid you think is needed to clean the EVO, I guarantee its too much. It takes VERY little liquid to fill the bamboo and overflowing the bamboo would be an absolute nightmare if it somehow gets passed whatever protection you decide to use. (I used a plastic bag with a hole in it, put it over the glass of the EVO, then taped it tight.

2. If you don't have a funnel or something to effectively pour the ISO into the EVO, grab a plastic bag and pour the ISO in there. Then tilt the plastic bag to one side so no ISO is touching the opposite side (should be easy with little ISO) and cut a very small hole in the bottom opposite side corner. This allows you to easily pour the ISO in a slow and steady manner. I'd even recommend pouring some in the sink first to see how it flows and get used to the speed.


3. When cleaning out the ISO from the bamboo use distilled water instead of tap water so that you will not have any mineral build up on your glass. It also makes it much safer if you get any liquid into the heater by not following tip #1.

Take your time, be careful, and if you only remember one thing from this post I implore that it's USE LESS LIQUID the ONLY way you can FUCK THIS UP is by overfilling the bamboo (or pouring onto the heater).



I don't know if it's the "only" way you can F--k this up. I can think of several more ways. i.e. Having it slip from your hands while you're cleaning the EVO would not be good. (They really aren't designed to bounce.) Turning the EVO on before allowing it to completely dry might cause you some serious problems, and if you were to leave some residual alcohol in the bamboo after you've finished rinsing it, that would definitely not be good. Just my :2c:...
 

crashck

Member
I don't know if it's the "only" way you can F--k this up. I can think of several more ways. i.e. Having it slip from your hands while you're cleaning the EVO would not be good. (They really aren't designed to bounce.) Turning the EVO on before allowing it to completely dry might cause you some serious problems, and if you were to leave some residual alcohol in the bamboo after you've finished rinsing it, that would definitely not be good. Just my :2c:...

Well yes knocking over your EVO is always a potential danger. I'm really not sure what would happen if you turn on your EVO if it's still a little damp. I may be missing something [7] but wouldn't the water just evaporate quicker with heat? It's just water on heated glass, but yeah the word "only" is too strong and inaccurate. I do think overfilling is the thing that somebody cleaning the EVO would be the least prepared for because it fills so much quicker than I first anticipated and it's not easy to tell how full the bamboo is since its clear ISO in a clear tube.
 
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TboneToker

Well-Known Member
Well, how do you like it, inquiring minds want to know :)

This is the best vaporizer I have owned.

By a lot.

I have to lower my ratings of the aromed and volcano now.

This is a lot like the aromed, if the aromed was more convenient and had an even more efficient and quick extraction.

It's so quick to get the medicine that you want to overmedicate cause you want to take another hit of the amazing flavor and effects.

What sets this vape apart, for me, is that as opposed to the volcano and aromed and solo for example, where it takes a full "session" to really get to where I need to, this vape gets me there right away and because of that the whole high is different. It feels less like an edible, which the aromed is very much like, by edible I mean very stoney and makes me want to just relax. The way the evo works seems to give me the effect of the strain much more properly and quickly so I can get stuff done, or get to sleep if that's what I'm vaping.

Another thing, the temperature range is beasty, it works at very low temps and very high temps really well. so it's versatility is through the roof, add on the fact that you can use it to dab. I never enjoyed using a flame torch to heat and dab and I was thinking of eventually getting an e-nail but not anymore, the EVO will do more than good at that if I ever want to dab.

SIDE NOT I don't dab, but the evo is so great and now that I have something in my opinion worth dabbing off of, I'd be interested. I'll have to speak with my doctor and get him to link me to some good authorized concentrate sellers so I can try some..

Quick Question
- Do concentrates typically work better as daytime medication, or is it really strain dependent ?
SIDE NOT OVER

Evo is the Queen of all vapes. The true Goddess of vaportherapy.

and she's cute, to boot. BUT DO NOT BOOT HER, beautiful, though fragile glass!
 

ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
This is the best vaporizer I have owned.

By a lot.

I have to lower my ratings of the aromed and volcano now.

This is a lot like the aromed, if the aromed was more convenient and had an even more efficient and quick extraction.

It's so quick to get the medicine that you want to overmedicate cause you want to take another hit of the amazing flavor and effects.

What sets this vape apart, for me, is that as opposed to the volcano and aromed and solo for example, where it takes a full "session" to really get to where I need to, this vape gets me there right away and because of that the whole high is different. It feels less like an edible, which the aromed is very much like, by edible I mean very stoney and makes me want to just relax. The way the evo works seems to give me the effect of the strain much more properly and quickly so I can get stuff done, or get to sleep if that's what I'm vaping.

Another thing, the temperature range is beasty, it works at very low temps and very high temps really well. so it's versatility is through the roof, add on the fact that you can use it to dab. I never enjoyed using a flame torch to heat and dab and I was thinking of eventually getting an e-nail but not anymore, the EVO will do more than good at that if I ever want to dab.

SIDE NOT I don't dab, but the evo is so great and now that I have something in my opinion worth dabbing off of, I'd be interested. I'll have to speak with my doctor and get him to link me to some good authorized concentrate sellers so I can try some..

Quick Question
- Do concentrates typically work better as daytime medication, or is it really strain dependent ?
SIDE NOT OVER

Evo is the Queen of all vapes. The true Goddess of vaportherapy.

and she's cute, to boot. BUT DO NOT BOOT HER, beautiful, though fragile glass!
I got my MOD today.
NAILS all broke?
FLOWER COLAS the EVO is amazing.
SHATTER not until they make NAILS unbreakable.

The EVO is really amazing!

FLOWERS = CIVILIZED
 
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Vital

Well-Known Member
This is a lot like the aromed, if the aromed was more convenient and had an even more efficient and quick extraction.


Too funny; isn't that like saying...it's a lot like my brother, if she was my sister. :lol:



I recently cleaned my EVO after having so much gunk from my ignorant first concentrate session. Definitely look back in the thread for detailed explanations on how to do it. I'll give you a couple tips though.

1. However much liquid you think is needed to clean the EVO, I guarantee its too much. It takes VERY little liquid to fill the bamboo and overflowing the bamboo would be an absolute nightmare if it somehow gets passed whatever protection you decide to use. (I used a plastic bag with a hole in it, put it over the glass of the EVO, then taped it tight.

2. If you don't have a funnel or something to effectively pour the ISO into the EVO, grab a plastic bag and pour the ISO in there. Then tilt the plastic bag to one side so no ISO is touching the opposite side (should be easy with little ISO) and cut a very small hole in the bottom opposite side corner. This allows you to easily pour the ISO in a slow and steady manner. I'd even recommend pouring some in the sink first to see how it flows and get used to the speed.

3. When cleaning out the ISO from the bamboo use distilled water instead of tap water so that you will not have any mineral build up on your glass. It also makes it much safer if you get any liquid into the heater by not following tip #1.

Take your time, be careful, and if you only remember one thing from this post I implore that it's USE LESS LIQUID the ONLY way you can FUCK THIS UP is by overfilling the bamboo (or pouring onto the heater).


If you absolutely have to put alcohol in it, wouldn't it be easier to use an eyedropper? Just my :2c:. ;)
 
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milkmann

Well-Known Member
Hi guys, did a little 'experiment' today, whereby I've started using the Evo in a different way. I thought it was broken, decided to try out the 'dry stem' and have found a new love for it.

TL;DR at bottom.

Basically, it's a very efficient, 1-3 hit extraction method, using, I duno, around 0.025g of fresh herb each time? The amount of hits depend on the size of your lungs, really. I was taking 20 second pulls, holding in for ten, and then slowly exhaling through the nose. So for me, it's a one, sometimes two, hit extraction, full of fresh flavour, every time, and thick clouds, if you so wish.

The 'experiment' involved 0.2g of Super Lemon Haze, taken out of the C-Vault (where it has been curing for a week since I obtained it) and left to dry, for 15 minutes, as I pre-heat the Evo at full temp. After that, I turned the temp dial all the way down to around 7 on the clock, and ground the herb, just a normal grind (pictured), and divided this into seven portions.

Once the Evo reached temp, each basket was filled with JUST enough herb to cover the bottom of the screen. A tiny pinch. It can be loosely packed, or very slightly tamped down, depending on how the herb fits. It just needs to cover all the screen. Loosely packed herb will give more flavour, slightly tamped will give a thicker hit, but it's not that important.

I then put the basket in the Evo, let it 'heat soak' for 20 seconds, then very slowly pulled, gradually getting faster, until I was at a medium paced pull, and filled my lungs for 20 seconds. AFter that, I inhaled a touch of fresh air, held for ten seconds, and exhaled through the nostrils, making sure I paid attention to flavour.

I made notes, trying one bowl at each of the following temperatures (on the clock): 7, 9, 11, 12, 1, 2, 3. Here is what I observed about each temp. I have also got pictures of the ABV after each extraction:

GRADED A++ - C

7- Taste : mild, A. nothing standing out boldly
Vapor production: C, light, cool, can hardly feel it, but can see it with use of a flashlight
effect: slight, subtle. heady.

9 - Taste: mild, A. Similar to 7.
Vapor - C, cool, light. Similar to 7.
Effect: more heady than 7, so more prominent effects.

11 - Taste: moderate, A+. more subtle tastes obvious, more Lemon on the inhale and when held.
Vapor production: B+, much thicker
Effect: near-full headiness

12- Taste: A+, improved, more flavours, more taste on exhale than at 11
Vapor: A, good balance between vapor production and flavour
Effect: heady, slight body feeling coming into play

10 second heat soaks:

1 - Taste: A++, all flavours prominent on inhale and exhale, more undertones on exhale
Vapor: A+
Effect - Very nice, significantly more potent than at 12 :)

2 - Taste: BB, better on exhale, slight toastiness coming into play
Vapor: A++, thick, slightly hot
Effect: lots more body, well rounded

3- Taste: poor, B-, bearable, but nutty and toasted from the beginning
Vapor: hot, most similar to a bong rip
Effect: full, A++

TL;DR -

This method allows you to pretty much get a fresh, thick, potent hit, every time, by using smaller amounts of herb and reloading more, using a dry stem. You need a tiny pinch, just enough to cover the bottom of the screen. Inhale slowly, steadily, for 20 seconds, hold in for at least 7, and exhale slowly through your nose. You'll find a point when inhaling where vapor production is at it's best (a slow-ish pull for those of you used to the water adapter, just a bit more than inhaling from a joint.) Hold a flashlight or phone camera up to the glass, it helps you see the vapor better.

If you prefer flavour, or it's earlier in the day, you'll want to vape in the 9-1 range, however beware of the sharp increase in potency and effect between 12 and 1.
If you prefer to use this one-hit extraction method properly and to maximize the method, you'll want to vape in the 1-3 range, 1 being most prominent in flavor and 3 being full-on effect, with maximum clouds.

I personally use this method, having 2 bowls on 12/1, and then 2 more on around 2/3, using around 0.12 of herb and each hit is extremely satisfying, and very potent, smooth, and tasty.

There are images of the SLH, the ABV with flash, close up of the ABV at 7, and close-up at 3.

1gmswn1j0




Cheers all!

EDIT: Why doesn't my image work :(
 

ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
There are images of the SLH, the ABV with flash, close up of the ABV at 7, and close-up at 3.

1gmswn1j0


Cheers all!
EDIT: Why doesn't my image work :(

You have to use www.imgur.com or something like it.

You must have a lot of time on your hands?

I throw my ABV in a flower bed!
Never do I care about it's color?

TASTE/EFFECT = CIVILIZED
We all look at CANNABIS differently?
I enjoyed your assessment regardless!

BARS are legal?

CANNABIS is safer than MILK?
The EVO taste great! = CIVILIZED like NEWTON

$38 per OZ (28 grams more or less) soon!
LEGALIZE = CIVILIZED

1 gram/day = colas (FLOWER TOPS)
EVO = TASTY
 

oldiebutgoodie

Apostle, Church of Vaporization
. . . each basket was filled with JUST enough herb to cover the bottom of the screen. A tiny pinch. It can be loosely packed, or very slightly tamped down, depending on how the herb fits. It just needs to cover all the screen. Loosely packed herb will give more flavour, slightly tamped will give a thicker hit, but it's not that important.

You need a tiny pinch, just enough to cover the bottom of the screen . . .

If I understand you correctly, you are implying that using "just enough herb to cover the bottom" of the ELB, then either "loosely packed" or "tamped down", will yield better results. Using a small load may indeed be a contributor, but not by in particular the packing or tamping down at bottom or ensuring an even spread across the bottom. That overlooks an important basic characteristic of the ELB, which is turbulence. The ELB is designed such that the herb moves about inside the ELB during a draw, providing for more even heat exposure and extraction. And of course the user is pulling up towards the cap; the airflow will move the herb towards the cap, too. Which is why even with small loads, there is herb residue around the ELB and at the cap.



:myday::science::peace:
 
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milkmann

Well-Known Member
If I understand you correctly, you are implying that using "just enough herb to cover the bottom" of the ELB, then either "loosely packed" or "tamped down", will yield better results. Using a small load may indeed be a contributor, but not by in particular the packing or tamping down at bottom or ensuring an even spread across the bottom. That overlooks an important basic characteristic of the ELB, which is turbulence. The ELB is designed such that the herb moves about inside the ELB during a draw, providing for more even heat exposure and extraction. And of course the user is pulling up towards the cap; the airflow will move the herb towards the cap, too. Which is why even with small loads, there is herb residue around the ELB and at the cap.



:myday::science::peace:
Ah! Intereting. Didn't know this. To be honest, I don't really know why I did the experiment, just looking for excuses to get high I suppose. And just to clarify, I meant that tamping down appears to give slightly thicker vapor and not tamping had better flavour :)

Cheers!
 

TboneToker

Well-Known Member
GUYS EVERY TIME I TURN MY EVO ON IT GETS TO GREEN AND THEN IT TURNS RED, Once it's red, if I turn the dial up a teeny bit it'll turn green again, my Evo overheats for a sec then goes back down?

is this new to the evo ?? Is it like a prelim-heat-soak?

Either way it works fine if I hit it while red or green, so long as it reaches temp.. Just thought I'd mention it here to FC and @stonemonkey55 maybe it's an Issue?
 
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twosilvertrees

lose the planetary mindset
GUYS EVERY TIME I TURN MY EVO ON IT GETS TO GREEN AND THEN IT TURNS RED, Once it's red, if I turn the dial up a teeny bit it'll turn green again, my Evo overheats for a sec then goes back down?

is this new to the evo ?? Is it like a prelim-heat-soak?

Either way it works fine if I hit it while red or green, so long as it reaches temp.. Just thought I'd mention it here to FC and @stonemonkey55 maybe it's an Issue?

I've not heard of this before. Have you tried contacting support?
 
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waxdab23

Well-Known Member
GUYS EVERY TIME I TURN MY EVO ON IT GETS TO GREEN AND THEN IT TURNS RED, Once it's red, if I turn the dial up a teeny bit it'll turn green again, my Evo overheats for a sec then goes back down?

is this new to the evo ?? Is it like a prelim-heat-soak?

Either way it works fine if I hit it while red or green, so long as it reaches temp.. Just thought I'd mention it here to FC and @stonemonkey55 maybe it's an Issue?

I've not heard of this before. Have you tried contacting support?

Pretty sure this was discussed a few pages back. It's the heater overshooting temp on the initial push and then just settling back down to the selected temp. Happens with mine all the time and I don't believe it to be an issue.
 

MonkeyTime

Well-Known Member
Pretty sure this was discussed a few pages back. It's the heater overshooting temp on the initial push and then just settling back down to the selected temp. Happens with mine all the time and I don't believe it to be an issue.

I agree, to verify, after it turns green, then red, if I turn the temp dial up a bit, it goes green, meaning it is at that temp.......once green again at the original temp, I consider it preheated.
 

kellya86

Herb gardener...
I agree, to verify, after it turns green, then red, if I turn the temp dial up a bit, it goes green, meaning it is at that temp.......once green again at the original temp, I consider it preheated.

Yep this was discussed a few pages ago when I asked the question. I was told that it completely normal, and that it stops after a couple of weeks. Which it has...Maybe the evo has to learn or something...

Also I'm liking the hydrafeet. This is my next purchase. But iv just bought 2 evo's, 2 official hydratubes, and a tiwoody and stash. And paid 3500 for my fights to America next year....
So this may have to wait a little.... but i really want one....
 

nilo

Well-Known Member
So I recieved the hydrabomb clone from dhgate. If water rises above the slits in the bottom chamber then it drains itself from the bottom. Is the bottom chamber supposed to have any water in it initially?
 
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