Liger banger V2.0

Hogni

Hogni

Honi soit qui mal y pense
Awesome! A fourth glas cup would be nice, tight fitting to a silicon jar
 
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jl420

jl420

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Baron23 said:
This is probably not what is expected under a topic Liger Banger, but I had been looking around for a dab station for my Liger and just didn't find what I wanted. Huffy Glass did seem to make something very similar to what I wanted, but everybody was out of stock on it.

So, I called Huffy Glass and they said "sure, be glad to make one for you". Well, if being made for me, then perhaps we can change is up a bit to which they replied "sure, whadaya want?"

Here it is below. Middle is cup for q-tips. There are three arms, one with an 18mm female (they will put on whatever you want), one arm has their normal dab tool cup, and the third I had made as very wide dab tool cup to accommodate the CCA 710 Storm Cap (and I bet you could be a lot of other caps in there also but probably not the new monster..... anybody have the diameter of the new cap?).


The piece was reasonably priced ($75), Huffy Glass was a complete pleasure to deal with (ask for Sam), and the piece is very well made and exactly what I wanted.
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Do you have a email address or phone number where Sam at Huffy Glass could be contacted? Thanx Baron23
 
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ichibaneye

ichibaneye

Vapriot, Traveler & Vaporizer/ing lover!
PoopMachine said:
Preordered my V3 today... bring the pain!
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Solid. I was looking to do the same. I'm not seeing the info to do so anyplace on the website. Maybe I'm on the wrong website to begin with.

I just searched for it and selected the best result. I found the other versions but not the newest one yet to be introduced. I did notice a delay. I'm not worried about that as I hold major respect for and appreciate anyone not rushing to market a final product that's not totally buttoned up tight. I feel this will save us from any unforseen hassle or issues with the device in the future.

This will also be my first electronic concentrate dab set-up and first time using one (electronic/plug in). I'm so excited! From what I've been studying it's one of the best all around units when it comes to construction, ease of use, cleaning and performance. Please correct me if I'm wrong and any added input is also appreciated.

Also why go 16, 20 or 30mm? I must know! I also see advantages of a flat coil over a rounded for various reasons. For one, more contact area to better facilitate heat transfer and maintain it. Yes, no?

Maybe just maybe I missed where to find the pre-order link because I just opened my eyes and vaporized. :smug: Yeah.... what a way to start the day!

I'll be looking to you big brothers and sisters here for more guidance when I'm in the money so to speak. Thank you for your knowledge, advice in the past, present and looking forward to the future. Cheers!
 
ichibaneye,
Baron23

Baron23

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ichibaneye said:
Solid. I was looking to do the same. I'm not seeing the info to do so anyplace on the website. Maybe I'm on the wrong website to begin with.

I just searched for it and selected the best result. I found the other versions but not the newest one yet to be introduced. I did notice a delay. I'm not worried about that as I hold major respect for and appreciate anyone not rushing to market a final product that's not totally buttoned up tight. I feel this will save us from any unforseen hassle or issues with the device in the future.

This will also be my first electronic concentrate dab set-up and first time using one (electronic/plug in). I'm so excited! From what I've been studying it's one of the best all around units when it comes to construction, ease of use, cleaning and performance. Please correct me if I'm wrong and any added input is also appreciated.

Also why go 16, 20 or 30mm? I must know! I also see advantages of a flat coil over a rounded for various reasons. For one, more contact area to better facilitate heat transfer and maintain it. Yes, no?

Maybe just maybe I missed where to find the pre-order link because I just opened my eyes and vaporized. :smug: Yeah.... what a way to start the day!

I'll be looking to you big brothers and sisters here for more guidance when I'm in the money so to speak. Thank you for your knowledge, advice in the past, present and looking forward to the future. Cheers!
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So I'm no expert...there are others here with much more experience.

BUT....:

1. why bigger dabbing surface? More suface area for boiling off the concentrate
2. So why not just go bigger at all times? Well, people are finding that they have to drive their coils pretty dang hard to get the dabbing surface of the 30mm up to sufficient temp. Do not confuse coil temp and dab surface temp. The more hdwr you have, the more hdwr to radiate heat outward and the more your coil will have to work.
3. Flat vs coil - I'm not at all sure that you really get a better coil/banger heat transfer from flat vs coiled. I don't think that has been found to be true with the 3.0 but @mrbonsai420 and other V 3.0 beta testers can tell you for sure.
 
mrbonsai420

mrbonsai420

Accessory Maker
Accessory Maker
Baron23 said:
So I'm no expert...there are others here with much more experience.

BUT....:

1. why bigger dabbing surface? More suface area for boiling off the concentrate
2. So why not just go bigger at all times? Well, people are finding that they have to drive their coils pretty dang hard to get the dabbing surface of the 30mm up to sufficient temp. Do not confuse coil temp and dab surface temp. The more hdwr you have, the more hdwr to radiate heat outward and the more your coil will have to work.
3. Flat vs coil - I'm not at all sure that you really get a better coil/banger heat transfer from flat vs coiled. I don't think that has been found to be true with the 3.0 but @mrbonsai420 and other V 3.0 beta testers can tell you for sure.
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ichibaneye said:
Solid. I was looking to do the same. I'm not seeing the info to do so anyplace on the website. Maybe I'm on the wrong website to begin with.

I just searched for it and selected the best result. I found the other versions but not the newest one yet to be introduced. I did notice a delay. I'm not worried about that as I hold major respect for and appreciate anyone not rushing to market a final product that's not totally buttoned up tight. I feel this will save us from any unforseen hassle or issues with the device in the future.

This will also be my first electronic concentrate dab set-up and first time using one (electronic/plug in). I'm so excited! From what I've been studying it's one of the best all around units when it comes to construction, ease of use, cleaning and performance. Please correct me if I'm wrong and any added input is also appreciated.

Also why go 16, 20 or 30mm? I must know! I also see advantages of a flat coil over a rounded for various reasons. For one, more contact area to better facilitate heat transfer and maintain it. Yes, no?

Maybe just maybe I missed where to find the pre-order link because I just opened my eyes and vaporized. :smug: Yeah.... what a way to start the day!

I'll be looking to you big brothers and sisters here for more guidance when I'm in the money so to speak. Thank you for your knowledge, advice in the past, present and looking forward to the future. Cheers!
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The heat transfer is actually slightly better on the barrel coil currently but the new washer should correct that and make the 30mm coil temps comparable, I will let you know as soon as they arrive. And yes, bigger area means the dab can spread out more and vaporize more efficiently. My dabs seem to only cover 20mm when melted anyway but some of my friends take bigger dabs cover the 30mm and the 30mm wins there with thicker vapor. The 30mm also handles smaller dabs well but I feel my sweet spot is the 20mm so far. I still use my 16mm V2 for travel. And I am looking for a Small, enail stable 10mm rig to try out these little 10mm Liger bodies that will go great with the 16mm version. So yeah, there is a need for each size, because different strokes for different folks!
Some people buy the Nail to match their coil, which I never understood since you can get coils for $30 and a good nail is 10x that. I just keep a few of all 3 size coils around for all occasions!
 
Baron23

Baron23

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jl420 said:
Thanx Stephen I just spoke to Sam and I did say it was due to you that I wanted to order a similar dab station. :bowdown:
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hehehe...I don't get any commission or anything like that. I just liked these guys and wanted them to know I appreciated their work and was referring them.

Thanks!!
 
hardboiledfrog

hardboiledfrog

tinkerer
ccchase420 said:
900 is really hot. my coil is set 760 for the 30mm (flat coil) and 585 for the 20mm. if you have to run it hotter you're doing it wrong. make sure your coil is completely snug in the enclosure, separate it with a screwdriver or pliers if you have to. then, when attaching it to the bucket, make sure it's got as much contact with the bottom of the bucket as possible, not shoved all the way into the bottom of the enclosure.

i mentioned this previously here but i'll keep preaching it, if you're using the v2/v3 barrel coil (20mm) be sure to pull apart your coil with pliers to ensure it fits snugly on the Liger! this radically increases efficiency. i was going to make more of a point of this to Josh but it's kind of something the user has to do because all coils are different to some small degree. the current measurement of the barrel width is a good general fit in my opinion but as i said and will continue to say, making sure your coil sits on the Liger snugly is definitely the way forward. i found the easiest way is to get two pairs of pliers and just grab each end of the coil and gently pull. this is how my coil looked when i had the v2, i had to pull it apart a tad little bit more for the v3:

it seemed like common sense to do this, as i noticed a definite air gap when the coil was just loosely sitting on the Liger. knowing how heat transfers across metal, prying the coil apart to maximize heat transfer allowed me to completely vaporize dabs at temperatures below 600 degrees, even with the v2. i don't doubt for a second that i could turn it down another 10 degrees to "waste it to taste it" but there's a tiny amount of residual left as is and i'm anal about getting all of my concentrate!
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excellent analysis chase, induction heating would work much better for the Ligers.
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/induction-heated-e-nail-with-arduino-closed-loop-temp-control.22605/
 
hardboiledfrog,
EVlL 55

EVlL 55

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..hello.
I was hoping someone can tell me if it would make much difference to flip the coils back right side up being as the surface of the insert is very much near the bottom of the bucket.
..I know the temp sensor is in the tip of the coil,..and we used to,..and still do turn them tip up,..that was to measure the heat directly under a domeless' dish,...but w/ the ligers build I wonder if it would give a better read flipped.
 
ccchase420

ccchase420

TheCCC420 YouTuber
Baron23 said:
This is probably not what is expected under a topic Liger Banger, but I had been looking around for a dab station for my Liger and just didn't find what I wanted. Huffy Glass did seem to make something very similar to what I wanted, but everybody was out of stock on it.

So, I called Huffy Glass and they said "sure, be glad to make one for you". Well, if being made for me, then perhaps we can change is up a bit to which they replied "sure, whadaya want?"

Here it is below. Middle is cup for q-tips. There are three arms, one with an 18mm female (they will put on whatever you want), one arm has their normal dab tool cup, and the third I had made as very wide dab tool cup to accommodate the CCA 710 Storm Cap (and I bet you could be a lot of other caps in there also but probably not the new monster..... anybody have the diameter of the new cap?).


The piece was reasonably priced ($75), Huffy Glass was a complete pleasure to deal with (ask for Sam), and the piece is very well made and exactly what I wanted.
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mrbonsai420

mrbonsai420

Accessory Maker
Accessory Maker
OK guys, 30mm flat coil update. A simple washer under the flat coil and "stretching" out the coil a bit has snugged the coil against the bucket nicely and I can now run the V3 30mm flat coil in the 650-675 range quite nicely. So the final V3 in all sizes will run in normal temp ranges in case that was a worry for some of you.
 
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Gonzo_da_wind

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... Ill just send Josh a signed blank check.He can fill in however much he wants for 20mm liger with saphire insert.....
 
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Gonzo_da_wind

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mrbonsai420 said:
OK guys, 30mm flat coil update. A simple washer under the flat coil and "stretching" out the coil a bit has snugged the coil against the bucket nicely and I can now run the V3 30mm flat coil in the 650-675 range quite nicely. So the final V3 in all sizes will run in normal temp ranges in case that was a worry for some of you.
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Which inserts were you using?
 
Gonzo_da_wind,
Monsoon

Monsoon

Well-Known Member
Baron23 said:
This is probably not what is expected under a topic Liger Banger, but I had been looking around for a dab station for my Liger and just didn't find what I wanted. Huffy Glass did seem to make something very similar to what I wanted, but everybody was out of stock on it.

So, I called Huffy Glass and they said "sure, be glad to make one for you". Well, if being made for me, then perhaps we can change is up a bit to which they replied "sure, whadaya want?"

Here it is below. Middle is cup for q-tips. There are three arms, one with an 18mm female (they will put on whatever you want), one arm has their normal dab tool cup, and the third I had made as very wide dab tool cup to accommodate the CCA 710 Storm Cap (and I bet you could be a lot of other caps in there also but probably not the new monster..... anybody have the diameter of the new cap?).


The piece was reasonably priced ($75), Huffy Glass was a complete pleasure to deal with (ask for Sam), and the piece is very well made and exactly what I wanted.
Dab%20Station%202.jpeg

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That looks awesome and a great price for a custom! I might order one myself since I've been nail swapping more now. Might be a good accessory for Josh to sell as well as an accessory and he could order them to spec.

I see a bunch of people placing pre-orders for the V3, is there a link for it somewhere? I'm mostly curious about the pricing to see if I can work it into my budget to try it out.
 
Monsoon,
Baron23

Baron23

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Monsoon said:
That looks awesome and a great price for a custom! I might order one myself since I've been nail swapping more now. Might be a good accessory for Josh to sell as well as an accessory and he could order them to spec.

I see a bunch of people placing pre-orders for the V3, is there a link for it somewhere? I'm mostly curious about the pricing to see if I can work it into my budget to try it out.
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Thanks...glad you like it. If you do get one, ask for Sam and, if you don't mind, tell them that Stephen sent you. I don't get anything out of it but I would like them to know that their efforts working with me on this is paying dividends.

Yes, I think Josh should offer or post a link to them on his site but he's a one man show and that just might be adding too much on him as he works mightily to get the v3.0 out the door.

Yeah, I don't see a pre-order link on his website...not sure how folks are pre-ordering 3.0's. I just got my 2.0 not too long back and I'm happy as a clam for now.

Cheers
 
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PoopMachine

PoopMachine

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Send him an email and he'll send you a Paypal invoice for the 3.0. He said he hopes to ship the 3.0 in Oct.
 
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