ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
Hey ataxia, did you move the screen a bit? I notice you pack a lot more bud than I do maybe thats why you're getting more hits?
I fill my GonG full however loose packed.

I will measure my screen?
1 1/2 cm is the depth!

Now I like FLAVOR so this what I do. (I might try 1 3/4 cm)?
If your aim is to get shit faced then we may have different needs?
I get the effect big time as well it's just I find it = CIVILIZED

There isn't a wrong or right way!
Just a way!

Whatever floats your raft?
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I 3.5" SPACE CASE for a course grind. My little grinder grinds too fine.
 
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NikeReebok23

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Lol bro you're awesome thanks for the quick response, I'm using the 18/19 mm gong adapter I believe, I would like to learn and replicate the way you're doing it right now, I appreciate the details, I'm using the e-nano pick currently the way CarloKing showed in her picture, using the low end side, Its barely filled though

Also I noticed the space case so are you saying you recommend the coarse grind?
I have a smaller grinder like you and I feel it can grind pretty fine,
But then again how do you define course and fine?
My grinder grinds it very soft so I can compress it quite well? is that fine?
 
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CalyxSmokr

Well-Known Member
Lol bro you're awesome thanks for the quick response, I'm using the 18/19 mm gong adapter I believe, I would like to learn and replicate the way you're doing it right now, I appreciate the details, I'm using the e-nano pick currently the way CarloKing showed in her picture, using the low end side, Its barely filled though

Also I noticed the space case so are you saying you recommend the coarse grind?
I have a smaller grinder like you and I feel it can grind pretty fine,
But then again how do you define course and fine?
My grinder grinds it very soft so I can compress it quite well? is that fine?
I prefer a finer grind but don't compress. more airflow is better. use smaller amounts until you get used to it. keep your screen ckean
 

Vapor_Eyes

taste buds
Lol bro you're awesome thanks for the quick response, I'm using the 18/19 mm gong adapter I believe, I would like to learn and replicate the way you're doing it right now, I appreciate the details, I'm using the e-nano pick currently the way CarloKing showed in her picture, using the low end side, Its barely filled though

Also I noticed the space case so are you saying you recommend the coarse grind?
I have a smaller grinder like you and I feel it can grind pretty fine,
But then again how do you define course and fine?
My grinder grinds it very soft so I can compress it quite well? is that fine?
I've used powder grind up to full nuggets. The nano powers through it all. The finer the grind the less you should pack it to ensure good airflow, which is necessary for proper extraction.

Finer grind leads to quicker, thicker vapor production, with faster loss of flavor. Nuggets provide the best flavor but don't produce as much vapor per hit in my experience. You will get more hits overall, but each one will be weaker.

I tend to use about a medium grind that is very fluffy. The nano will work with any grind, play around and see how it affects performance.

One thing I recommend to new users is only changing one thing at a time until you are familiar with what it does.

Also, if you are using high temperatures you will actually get fewer hits in. That is probably why @ataxian is getting more hits than you. Quality of cannabis also makes a big difference.

The temp makes a big difference though. Think of the chamber like a bottle of beer. There is only so much material inside. A low temp hit is like taking a sip of beer, you will get many sips per bottle. If you use a high temp it's like chugging the beer, so you will have fewer total drinks or hits. I hope that makes sense.

At temp 7 I get 1-2 huge hits usually, at temp 6.5 I can get 3-4 big hits, and I can get a lot of small hits at temp 6 and below.

The only real way to get "more" hits is to load more material (a bigger beer), get better material (higher alcohol content beer), or lower the temp and take smaller hits (sipping the beer).

I say embrace the one hitter nature of a high temp nano. It almost reminds me of my one hitter bat I had back in the day. It's so fast to dump a load and reload, less than 5 seconds for me. I can go through multiple chambers in the time it takes a lot of vapes to heat up.
 

NikeReebok23

Well-Known Member
Wanted to update my usage,
Before Work I let the nano warm up on 10 for about 5 minutes
Then lowered it to 7-7.5 and hit it out bong
What I have been doing is adding a little more bud and stirring it so I get 1 Huge hit and 1 soft medium and 1 soft hit before everything is spent, still experimenting,

Usually when I take a hit I put the e-nano on top the bowl and wait about 10 seconds and then take a 5-10 second draw
Usually I can see the smoke building and dissipate and when I feel its not building is when I remove the e-nano to clear it.

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NikeReebok23

Well-Known Member
Ataxia what kinda water pipe is that? I'll probably order it tonight

Looking to get yours been scouring the web, here is a similar one but I like yours better, hope you get back to me soon so I can order, I like this style because I feel the e-nano will fit much nicer on it
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Vapor_Eyes

taste buds
Last night I was using my E-Nano with my new water piece and I got a little too toasted.

I had to rig something up because it's 14mm and my gongs are 18mm. I used my dry stem because it was right in front of me and I didn't want to spend 30 seconds to grab a gong. It had been a long day, I was feeling lazy. :shrug:

It worked wonderfully, maybe too well.

I ended up leaving my stem on the nano overnight. Ive never left the stem on the nano except to test it out. I've never been in the habit of doing it, so I don't know why I would have done it last night.

Anyway, the load was pretty much finished anyway, or at least I think it was. When I found it in the morning I was horrified. I figured leaving an overstuffed load at a high temp for 8+ hours was not going to end well.

To my surprise there was no harm done. The cannabis was a perfectly even deep rich dark brown, not even close to black. I had it set at 7.1 for this strain, which is higher than normal for me.

I guess it's good to know that you can leave the stem on overnight with an overfilled chamber and it won't combust. :)

I'll post pics of my new piece once it's not all rigged up. It should be soon.
 

NikeReebok23

Well-Known Member
Garden Vapor Station for outside (day time)
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Is that the J-Hook attached to your ash catcher??
That is just sick, I have 2 ash catchers I'm not using but Have thought about using just like you have.
Seeing it done is *brain explodes*
Wondering where I can get or order that, Not too patient would love to pick a piece like that up at the local hs, I love my bong but its too big and unwieldy with the e-nano and I feel my ash catchers would house the e-nano better as it would sit on top in the middle vs on the side with the bong making it feel like its gonna tip over (it has, I caught it before it fell)
 

whatitdew

Vapes R Great
Well I talked to the folks at epic vapes and they won't change shipping carrier until Canada Post officially strikes so I guess I'm playing the waiting game for a little bit and see what happens next week. Not gonna order with a risk of my package getting stuck. FC needs a Canadian log vape builder I thinks. I have been kinda wondering about that but have yet to find one.
 

ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
Ataxia what kinda water pipe is that? I'll probably order it tonight

Looking to get yours been scouring the web, here is a similar one but I like yours better, hope you get back to me soon so I can order, I like this style because I feel the e-nano will fit much nicer on it
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I have the blue one from dhgate I think it was $28?
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This week-end I'm sporting GAME CHANGER OG with a FC 186 w/mouth-piece from whip!
@CarolKing do you have one of these?
 

ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
I've used powder grind up to full nuggets. The nano powers through it all. The finer the grind the less you should pack it to ensure good airflow, which is necessary for proper extraction.

Finer grind leads to quicker, thicker vapor production, with faster loss of flavor. Nuggets provide the best flavor but don't produce as much vapor per hit in my experience. You will get more hits overall, but each one will be weaker.

I tend to use about a medium grind that is very fluffy. The nano will work with any grind, play around and see how it affects performance.

One thing I recommend to new users is only changing one thing at a time until you are familiar with what it does.

Also, if you are using high temperatures you will actually get fewer hits in. That is probably why @ataxian is getting more hits than you. Quality of cannabis also makes a big difference.

The temp makes a big difference though. Think of the chamber like a bottle of beer. There is only so much material inside. A low temp hit is like taking a sip of beer, you will get many sips per bottle. If you use a high temp it's like chugging the beer, so you will have fewer total drinks or hits. I hope that makes sense.

At temp 7 I get 1-2 huge hits usually, at temp 6.5 I can get 3-4 big hits, and I can get a lot of small hits at temp 6 and below.

The only real way to get "more" hits is to load more material (a bigger beer), get better material (higher alcohol content beer), or lower the temp and take smaller hits (sipping the beer).

I say embrace the one hitter nature of a high temp nano. It almost reminds me of my one hitter bat I had back in the day. It's so fast to dump a load and reload, less than 5 seconds for me. I can go through multiple chambers in the time it takes a lot of vapes to heat up.
Let's be clear!
A. High heat tiny pack lots of air flow = fewer hits diminished flavor shorter session
B. Lower heat full bowl loose pack = lot's of hit's such awesome flavor longer session

Whatever you can afford or need?

Your definition of CIVILIZED is all that matter's!


AFTER THOUGHT
portable = small can (so many rips) D020
log = med can D022
desk top = large can (fewer rips) FC 186 / FC 187

I have 20 with 3 on the way! (stupid I know)

MODEL Number's given are a general starting point only!

You may require something else?
Water piece effect needs to be factored in?
 
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Vapor_Eyes

taste buds
Let's be clear!
A. High heat tiny pack lots of air flow = fewer hits diminished flavor shorter session
B. Lower heat full bowl loose pack = lot's of hit's such awesome flavor longer session

Whatever you can afford or need?

Your definition of CIVILIZED is all that matter's!
Thanks for distilling my verbosity down to a nice, easy to understand format.

Stay CIVILIZED!
 

NikeReebok23

Well-Known Member
I was trying to find some info on something like a carb built in,
I had the grab labs phoenix ash catcher and loved it how It had a separate cap to carb the whole thing instead of removing the slide,
Wondering what other options because I love using my bong but I'm liking how your your mouth pieces are angled and different shaped vs the bong (leaves a bad taste on lips)

On a usage note
I was experimenting more with the slide and pushed it down a bit to pack more,
I was beginning to enjoy the vape hits more and more at 7 but I figure I was gonna fully "extract" it on 10...
Well a few things went wrong,
1. I Packed too much and it was touching the heater element... (more on that)
2. I Had the temp way too high
3. Did I mention it was touching the heater element

So what ended up happening was I began taking a slow draw and was liking how there was more smoke building up and the hit felt more fuller then all of a sudden I saw the clouds milking in the bong just spike and almost a different color and then I realized what happened...
Lol It was kinda like realizing the condom ripped..
I had gotten my Haze V3 On Tuesday and the E-Nano On Thursday and have been vaping since not wanting to combust because of the difference in effects and read when trying to make the switch to just give up combusting completely. Some even recommended to not smoke/vape altogether which I contemplated but... lol... neh. So a lil upset with myself for letting that happen but oh well.

I'm gonna contact Epicvape to see if i can get the dry glass mouthpiece with the adjustable screen as I paid for the glass screen and am not liking it, debris gets through and ack, just not pleasant.

Will use it at much lower setting -> probably 8 to prevent combustion as well as packing it so the element doesn't touch

I was wondering who here prefers it dry then with the water pieces?

Ataxian, can you tell me how you get that mouthpiece to work? Its pretty sweet, wanna learn how you made it work,
 

CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
I use my Enano most of the time dry. Water can take away some of the taste from your flowers. I do use water but probably only 10% of the time, if that. You will combust folks say at too high of heat. I never have but I've never gone higher than 7.5 with water.

My dry temp is between 6 and 6.5 but I do sessions about 10 draws or so over 10 min. I do like the adjustable stems over the fitted glass ones.

You can use a water tool dry.

I use a j hook a lot. I used to use water more. I bought my two Blackleaf jhooks ($20 each)from Planetvape.
 
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ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
I was trying to find some info on something like a carb built in,
I had the grab labs phoenix ash catcher and loved it how It had a separate cap to carb the whole thing instead of removing the slide,
Wondering what other options because I love using my bong but I'm liking how your your mouth pieces are angled and different shaped vs the bong (leaves a bad taste on lips)

On a usage note
I was experimenting more with the slide and pushed it down a bit to pack more,
I was beginning to enjoy the vape hits more and more at 7 but I figure I was gonna fully "extract" it on 10...
Well a few things went wrong,
1. I Packed too much and it was touching the heater element... (more on that)
2. I Had the temp way too high
3. Did I mention it was touching the heater element

So what ended up happening was I began taking a slow draw and was liking how there was more smoke building up and the hit felt more fuller then all of a sudden I saw the clouds milking in the bong just spike and almost a different color and then I realized what happened...
Lol It was kinda like realizing the condom ripped..
I had gotten my Haze V3 On Tuesday and the E-Nano On Thursday and have been vaping since not wanting to combust because of the difference in effects and read when trying to make the switch to just give up combusting completely. Some even recommended to not smoke/vape altogether which I contemplated but... lol... neh. So a lil upset with myself for letting that happen but oh well.

I'm gonna contact Epicvape to see if i can get the dry glass mouthpiece with the adjustable screen as I paid for the glass screen and am not liking it, debris gets through and ack, just not pleasant.

Will use it at much lower setting -> probably 8 to prevent combustion as well as packing it so the element doesn't touch

I was wondering who here prefers it dry then with the water pieces?

Ataxian, can you tell me how you get that mouthpiece to work? Its pretty sweet, wanna learn how you made it work,
The glass fixed screen with a Stainless Steel filter to keep the plant material at bay!

I smoked JOINTS for years.
BonG's did not work for me?
The smaller mouth-pieced water pipes and bubblers I love!

Be a RESONANCE MAN (PIPE FITTER TO START)!

I have a pile of 18mm to 14mm reducer fitting's I use then a piece of silicone to reduce end size.
Silicone to make air seals and plenty of tubing to MAC GIVER something that works!

I bought 5 JHOOKS for $22 without logo's!
10 or less is all I have.
 
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NikeReebok23

Well-Known Member
Been using it dry, and might be to soon to say but I think I'm liking it more, probably because of the hassle of using it with my bong, maybe if I had smaller more fitting piece for it to my liking, will update, but Have been using it at 7 dry, getting 4-8 hits out a packing

Ataxia, still waiting for you to get back to me on the water pipe you had on page 707, I would order that right away
 

LazyVaper

Well-Known Member
One thing I recommend to new users is only changing one thing at a time until you are familiar with what it does.

+1 on that. Everything I do at my job requires me to change only one thing at a time. I've tried to live that philosophy for as long as I can remember. Yet, as a new E-nano user, I managed to forget that. Thanks for the helpful reminder!

FWIW, I'm still working out all the finesse of the E-nano, but I'm currently enjoying this strategy:

1. Start with lowish temp (around 5) to get a few small to medium hits with crazy good flavor. Not sure if it's the E-nano or the strain, but this seems to have a delayed effect. Like I feel only the slightest of effects after the hit(s), but 5-15 minutes later, there it is! Minimal visible vapor here.

2. Next turn up to 6 or 6.5, go again. Only good for maybe one medium-ish rip with good flavor, but appears to be plenty of active magic left in the flowers. Noticeable clouds here. Only downside is flavor drops off rapidly.

3. Maybe crank all the way up to 7 and see if anything is left. Burnt popcorn flavor here, but my goal is to extract everything out of the flower for maximum efficiency.

Note: all the above is dry/direct-draw. Waiting on delivery of my bubbler.
 

Vapor_Eyes

taste buds
FWIW, I'm still working out all the finesse of the E-nano, but I'm currently enjoying this strategy:

1. Start with lowish temp (around 5) to get a few small to medium hits with crazy good flavor. Not sure if it's the E-nano or the strain, but this seems to have a delayed effect. Like I feel only the slightest of effects after the hit(s), but 5-15 minutes later, there it is! Minimal visible vapor here.

2. Next turn up to 6 or 6.5, go again. Only good for maybe one medium-ish rip with good flavor, but appears to be plenty of active magic left in the flowers. Noticeable clouds here. Only downside is flavor drops off rapidly.

3. Maybe crank all the way up to 7 and see if anything is left. Burnt popcorn flavor here, but my goal is to extract everything out of the flower for maximum efficiency.

Note: all the above is dry/direct-draw. Waiting on delivery of my bubbler.
Sounds like you are picking up the nano just fine! I agree about the delayed effect with low temps.

When I first got my nano I had an interesting experience with low temps. I wanted to see what would happen if I vaped a lot at strictly low temps. Usually I would temp step to finish the load, but this day I saved the still green ABV for later instead.

I did a wake and bake at temp 5.5, with multiple chambers. I lost count. I vaped the chambers pretty much back to back, so they all hit me almost at once. It was the weirdest effect I've ever had from cannabis. It was very psychedelic and trippy, and also very speedy. I had no caffeine that morning yet I was wired. I was not sedated at all.

It was a strain I was familiar with, so it's not like that was the cause of the weird effects. It was actually a really cool experience, I've been meaning to try it again but usually I need higher temps for my pain and anxiety.

Everything I do at my job requires me to change only one thing at a time. I've tried to live that philosophy for as long as I can remember. Yet, as a new E-nano user, I managed to forget that. Thanks for the helpful reminder!

I first learned this philosophy when I got deep into the process of making coffee. It is actually a very similar process to vaping, as they are both heat based extraction processes.

I have since tried to live by that philosophy, but when I get a new vape it is easy to lose sight of that goal.

The cool thing is when you get familiar with all of the variables and how changing them works, you can go wild and change multiple variables at once.

I love the manual control the E-Nano provides. It makes it very satisfying to use, and allows you to fine tune it to fit your needs.

Keep your hands warm Nano Nation! :peace:
 

ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
I use my Enano most of the time dry. Water can take away some of the taste from your flowers. I do use water but probably only 10% of the time, if that. You will combust folks say at too high of heat. I never have but I've never gone higher than 7.5 with water.

My dry temp is between 6 and 6.5 but I do sessions about 10 draws or so over 10 min. I do like the adjustable stems over the fitted glass ones.

You can use a water tool dry.

I use a j hook a lot. I used to use water more. I bought my two Blackleaf jhooks ($20 each)from Planetvape.
When I was a young gun dry (JOINTS) were all I could handle.
90% is water path these days.
10% dry.

Maybe that is why my GonG's are full for flavor/effect?

My NANO is on 24/7 and I use it the most even if I have other means to vaporize!

@NikeReebok23 I use a lot of pipes and JHOOKS, ASH COOLECTORS

START BASIC LEARN EXPAND

D022 is a good place to start (sunshine store on dhgate) from there go up or down in can size?
 
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16jps

Well-Known Member
Well,

After being in transit for over 3 weeks (Canada post's fault not epicvape <3) and going back and forth between here and Cali...ITS FINALLY HERE. And by god is it gorgeous!

Trying to upload pics but it says

"upload not available"

We've got some Hindu Kush...time to take this baby for a spin :leaf:

Will update.

:peace:16jps

My first 2 draws through the dry stem were good with visible vapor but after that, I was getting no visible vapor at all. I packed a small amount so that the heating element had like 1/2 cm space between itself and the herb. Eventually just kept cranking the temperature up to ten with no results....But I am high.

WHAT AM I DOING WRONG?!?!
 
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CalyxSmokr

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My first 2 draws through the dry stem were good with visible vapor but after that, I was getting no visible vapor at all. I packed a small amount so that the heating element had like 1/2 cm space between itself and the herb. Eventually just kept cranking the temperature up to ten with no results....But I am high.

WHAT AM I DOING WRONG?!?!
I think you got it right. Turn the heat back down. If they were 2 big draws then you cashed it. Empty and refill it. Maybe add a little more. 1/2 cm sounds like a very small load so maybe you can go bigger. Build up slow and don't move the screen
 

16jps

Well-Known Member
I think you got it right. Turn the heat back down. If they were 2 big draws then you cashed it. Empty and refill it. Maybe add a little more. 1/2 cm sounds like a very small load so maybe you can go bigger. Build up slow and don't move the screen

The stuff was still mostly green.

The draws weren't that great. just visible.
 
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