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5 lbs. a week is a shit ton of hash yo

Baron23 said:

Thanks @herbivore21 for all of this great info. I do not have a Haze but its appearance and reviews I have seen on it seemed to support its use for traditional hashish. Now, in my experience (which is quite some time ago), traditional hashish did not melt. We were smoking it and there would be dry ash after and we didn't have to worry about it melting through the screen in our pipes like hash oil would do. I don't know what our friend from Pakistan is getting, but if its like the stuff pictured above, I don't think that's stuff is melting at all. So I was just looking for some vape that would contain the hashish while applying high heat and I just thought the Haze was worth taking a look at. If I don't have a vape, or haven't used it for the purpose being discussed, I should just keep my mouth shut (metaphorically speaking LOL).

Yes, med soon. No, my state's med program does not include allowing patients to grow their own (but fuck 'em...I think I might try to set up an indoor grow room for 4-6 plants in about a year). I really don't know much about how to make bubble hash (dry sift, water method, whatever) and have only read about it lightly as I'm not in a position to do it yet. But when I am, I guarantee I will look up my new friend Herbivore21 to help me with his hard won expertise! LOL

I loved hashish. I use to run through about 5 lbs a week as a young criminal but those days are long over. Loved the taste. Loved the effect. I don't have insomnia per se, but I do have a badly injured and only partially repaired back and laying down to sleep is very, very difficult for me. They have thown oxicodone, valium, Lyrica and Neurontin, Prednisone, and Ambien at me...all I want and I don't want any of that crap any longer (except when I have an acute attack once a year or so). But with hard hitting and sedative cannabis products, I can get up to 2 1/2 hours of continuous sleep. Oh, to sleep...perchance to dream. hehehe. So I am very interested in strong indicas and any concentrate that will truly knock me out.

Take care...I really enjoy not only your expertise and knowledge but your enthusiasm for sharing it.

Cheers

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I definitely believe that the haze would work very well for non melting hashes and kief. I find that things change as the hash gets a bit melty. 3 star hash would still probably be great in the haze I'm sure, but 4 star is where we start to need to load too much more than we want to use at a time to fill a can (resulting in never ending, potentially messy loads) or have to resort to creative use of SS wool etc. The OP said his material was melty further above which is why I have kept this in mind throughout

I will confirm that the traditional hashes I used to consume would sometimes melt, but also sometimes be as you describe and have very little or no melt to it. I have long read that in Afghanistan especially, there is some especially high quality hash that has been being made possibly for millenia - from the pics I've seen in the past of some high quality hash from this region, if it is not full melt, it is very close! Lots of melt!

I've got to say on that note that IME, the distinction between 4 star and full melt is really only the dabbability in a lot of cases.

Very often vaping them both convection style between SS wool will provide so close to the same taste and effect from either as to leave them indistinguishable from each other. Full melt is so wonderful because it is so quick to consume (being dabbable) and pretty to look at. Additionally; as the only sapphire vape system I or anyone else has is an enail, and since sapphire tastes better than everything else still, it is a special treat to be able to enjoy fine tasting hash vaporized on sapphire.

The individual who masters vaping 4 star hash and knows how to identify good 4 star material could save substantial money buying 4 star instead of 5/6 star full melts and still get fantastic results!

Man please do reach out if you start producing bubble for yourself. I'd be happy to help you get rid of as many of those pharma meds as possible - did me a world of good too!

Thanks for the encouragement and appreciation man, this place introduced me to concentrates. It is the least I can do to pay it back and forward where possible.

I do understand that there are those in other situations who do this work for a living though, in those cases - I guess we can't expect them to want to share how they earn their bread.

herbivore21 said:

...it is a special treat to be able to enjoy fine tasting hash vaporized on sapphire.

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I need to step my game up, I can only dream about such things.

Very interesting thread, I love good hash but it's always very difficult to make or find.

I used to smoke a lot (10-15 g per week which is already too much), most was from Moroco, a bit from Lebannon and Turquey, a few from Pakistan/Afganistan and sometime a local homemade water hash.

I want to notice here Morocco is now making a very low quality commercial hash called Afghani or Border...it looks like a true Afghani (with a gold seal) but is totally adultered and very soft even at lower temperature.
Although I got a very high quality hash from Morocco in the past, melty (can't speak about stars), very tighty compressed and very, very difficult to grind to roll a joint (while heated it was making bubbles and becomes quickly sticky on fingers), I was always 2 brown and sticky fingers in this time... stoned!

I made some water hash in the past although but was disappointed cause the yield and some bags quality although the higher quality bag was awesome but it was a so small pile... but here I read some post from Hashtag and I think I can improve a lot my technic and use a higher quality flowers too can help for a good water hash.

PPN said:

Very interesting thread, I love good hash but it's always very difficult to make or find.

I made some water hash in the past although but was disappointed cause the yield and some bags quality although the higher quality bag was awesome but it was a so small pile... but here I read some post from Hashtag and I think I can improve a lot my technic and use a higher quality flowers too can help for a good water hash.

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Absolutely, the flowers determine the hash bro. I find that even the most mature, resin covered flowers that have been well grown give 5-10% yields of full melt maximum.

There may be an additional 5%+ of lower grade hashes depending on how much you want to spin and break up all the remaining (mostly) contaminant to go through the screens and collect. This means you need to have a minimum of about twice as much starting material to process as what you would want to get the same yield as for solvent based or rosin extractions (where we can easily expect up to 20% yields and sometimes more from great flowers).

Hashtag's posts will definitely help for technique. Hashtag's point to just put the material in a bubble machine loose with ice and water rather than using a work bag is very important. Frenchy cannoli explains the same process to hashtag very well in a video or two if that is preferable

@herbivore21 @Baron23 i would reply you guys soon in a hurry rite now.

wrigleyvillain said:

5 lbs. a week is a shit ton of hash yo

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hehehe...yeah, we were big business for the times. LOL

@Baron23 yeah its sad we are not able to move freely in this world. I would love to visit US and europe but visa policies are quite strict for muslim countries. I so wanna experience sitting in a coffee shop in amsterdam and smoking some quality weed , feeling the freedom.

@herbivore21 Your help was very critical for me to decide my vape btw i have still not decided but i m thinking deep.
Obviously stamped brick is a site to cherish. We usually get the unpressed hash in the trays in the pic. And then use lighter to make it soft and use it then. The heat does cause in some loss of thc but i think it is used in pressing hash but i am not sure as i have not seen it my self . I also saw some videos in which the guy was using coal to heat hash. But using gas will ruin the hash . When i used to smoke hash i use to heat hash with a lighter , mix it with tobacco and roll the mixture. So we use a lot of heat with hashish. That is the way to use it.
All are quite similar more body high less head high but the body high is very strong.
As far as i know its a tradition to put it in goatskin and mostly people do it. Anyways it was really fun sharing all i know about our hash. And yeah we can change the name to that for sure. Its purpose is served almost.

Functional junkie said:

I would love to visit US and europe but visa policies are quite strict for muslim countries

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THANKS OBAMA FOUNDER OF ISIS

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Thing is. Hashish is very easy to vaporize with butane lighters, and I often end up using a cheap VapoBowl on a big bong to vape hashish on stead of my Da Buddah.

And that is a ten euro... Thingie.

VapCap, VapMan, Vaponic... All these are great hashish vapes.

Just use screens, and burn them clean

Good vaping!

Well isn't 'hot knifing' just an early and crude form of conduction vaping?

wrigleyvillain said:

Well isn't 'hot knifing' just an early and crude form of conduction vaping?

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God....I forgot about doing that. We especially did it with early hash oil in '69-'70. Crap stuff was really harsh and I'm sure it was full of solvents.

We also did oil and hash on a piece of tin foil with a straw....put lighter under tin foil and suck on down but if you had tin foil and couldn't figure out how to make a pipe out of something laying around then you probably were riding the short bus to school.

Thanks for the walk down memory lane

Baron23 said:

God....I forgot about doing that. We especially did it with early hash oil in '69-'70. Crap stuff was really harsh and I'm sure it was full of solvents.

We also did oil and hash on a piece of tin foil with a straw....put lighter under tin foil and suck on down but if you had tin foil and couldn't figure out how to make a pipe out of something laying around then you probably were riding the short bus to school.

Thanks for the walk down memory lane

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Yep, everything @Baron23 said. It started out with an odd pair of butter knives from the kitchen drawers. These were dedicated to knifing and were set aside from the regulator cutlery.

Then, somehow, astonishingly, we would misplace a knife and have to introduce a new one. Over time we'd end up with a bunch of knives with burnt tips that would ultimately make their way back into the cutlery drawer.

Always a bit awkward at Xmas dinner.....

I still have a few of those knives kicking around from 30 years ago, but they don't have a place in the kitchen anymore. They live in the garage with other bits and bobs.

wrigleyvillain said:

Well isn't 'hot knifing' just an early and crude form of conduction vaping?

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Yes indeed! As were the Scythian vapor baths where flowers or hash (I am not sure) were placed on hot rocks in times of antiquity

Baron23 said:

God....I forgot about doing that. We especially did it with early hash oil in '69-'70. Crap stuff was really harsh and I'm sure it was full of solvents.

We also did oil and hash on a piece of tin foil with a straw....put lighter under tin foil and suck on down but if you had tin foil and couldn't figure out how to make a pipe out of something laying around then you probably were riding the short bus to school.

Thanks for the walk down memory lane

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Then again, we must remember that anyone who inhaled too many aluminum foil heat fumes runs the risk of producing enough neurotoxic nastiness to put themselves on the short bus!

With this being said, I used to do hot knives once or twice with traditional hashes also, worked great when you got it right, but man I watched so many buddies miss huge amounts of vapor. I guess its the same as folks who don't leave the cap on their dab and lose half the vapor to the air lol

Man this thread just keeps going with all the wonderful hash stories haha cheers to each of you!

Squiby said:

Yep, everything @Baron23 said. It started out with an odd pair of butter knives from the kitchen drawers. These were dedicated to knifing and were set aside from the regulator cutlery.

Then, somehow, astonishingly, we would misplace a knife and have to introduce a new one. Over time we'd end up with a bunch of knives with burnt tips that would ultimately make their way back into the cutlery drawer.

Always a bit awkward at Xmas dinner.....

I still have a few of those knives kicking around from 30 years ago, but they don't have a place in the kitchen anymore. They live in the garage with other bits and bobs.

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lol!!! That would bring a few interesting and quizzical expressions from dinner guests! So long as they weren't burnt spoons I guess, now that would be an awkward dinner!

Yeah...I am old...but not that old and never tried knifing but I knew of the method from word of mouth. Also, as Ive said, hash was never common for me anyway and we always just mixed it with herb.

Speaking of shit like burnt spoons, I've seen that tin foil method used to "smoke meth" too, ugh. And I won't even say I never did that shit but I sure never used anything but my nose. Portland in the mid-90s, what do you want? Crazy times. Maybe they shouldn't have kicked me out of school for an ounce of leaf (something that quite obviously would never happen today).

Rather than close the thread as we normally do once a question has been answered, I renamed and moved it since people are still enjoying their memories of hash. Carry on.

herbivore21 said:

we must remember that anyone who inhaled too many aluminum foil heat fumes runs the risk of producing enough neurotoxic nastiness to put themselves on the short bus!

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Well, dang.....so that's what happened to me! LOL No, seriously....LOL

Yeah even back then I knew the Marlboros were hard enough on my lungs (and ecigs have saved me from those). Pretty much never inhaled any substances besides cannabis.

Oh, I forgot the Haze. Good that it hd been mentioned. The concentrate can with out the cotton is great for non melty pressed hashish

I guess I'm a little younger than a lot of you guys in here, and missed the 'glory days' of hashish...

However I still have my fond memories of UK bought hash.... Ah, buying an eighth of the hardest black hash and wondering whether you'd been sold a stone... Buildings a 3 skin deck and loading up the baccy.... Gently touching the tip of a lighter to the hash, breathing in the aroma of the small bit of smoke released and knowing that it's not a stone....

And then pinching off a bit of the hash to sprinkle into your deck... And finding a bit of plastic carrier bag hiding amoungst your freshly bought eighth.....

Ah, the good old days

Would love to try some of this full melt stuff (or even half melt or quarter melt... Or dare I say 'teenth-melt')...

Great reading all the experiences tho. Brilliant thread!

Peace

One of my favorite hash memories was back in 1972. I received a home made Christmas card from some friends in Denmark. It was a really nice collage they had put together and had the words 'Cut a Cross Into Merry Christmas and Have a Good Time.'

I sat and looked at that card for about a month before I figured it out. It was a rather thick card.... and one day I decided to cut open the Merry Christmas. And found about 5 grams of the best, black hash I've ever smoked.

Can't get hash anything close to that any more. Good times.

Oh yeah, Mom. I remember '72 well and some great black slab hashish.

Great story...still have those friends over there?? x-mas is coming up fast! LOL

Bit before I came of age but High Times used to have "centerfolds" of all kinds of shit back when it began in the 70s. I saw some back issues once. Definitely blocks of hash of all colors and even mountains of blow sometimes.

Here's my latest hash creation

This was once a 4 star bubble but now: