Discontinued The Woodeez Vaporizer/Diffuser

momatik i guess 3 or 4 minutes

Noisy Gnome said:

I only had enough time to try one really quick stemfull last night but so far so good! I wasn't blown away or anything but it seemed to work well. Once I use it for a few days I 'll be able to form more of an opinion about the unit.

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NG - Be patient. There is a drying-out period, after which your WDZ will reach full temp. It is probably only a few degrees difference, but the hits will get noticably richer. I think I remember it was a few weeks - maybe a month - before the temperature peaked on my PD.

Ash said:

Noisy Gnome said:

I only had enough time to try one really quick stemfull last night but so far so good! I wasn't blown away or anything but it seemed to work well. Once I use it for a few days I 'll be able to form more of an opinion about the unit.

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NG - Be patient. There is a drying-out period, after which your WDZ will reach full temp. It is probably only a few degrees difference, but the hits will get noticably richer. I think I remember it was a few weeks - maybe a month - before the temperature peaked on my PD.

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That is very good to hear becuase so far I'm not overly impressed. I definitely get thicker vapor in my 'cano bags and with less work. Also so far I can finish a 'cano session faster than a Log one.

I wouldnt say I'm dissapointed though because I'm patient and I realize I have not tapped it's full potential yet. I've only really had 2 sessions of 4 stems each with it so far. It has been plugged in the entire time.

Thanks for coming here to say that...I know the Woodeez gets not much love on this board.

Noisy Gnome said:

I definitely get thicker vapor in my 'cano bags and with less work.

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First of all, you can't expect a tiny bowl like this to provide the same kind of hits you get with other, larger vapes. OTOH, I've used big hitters and bag fillers for years, yet a PD has been my main vape since it first became available almost 2 1/2 years ago. This type of vape can provide very satisfactory hits IMO, and many others feel the same. But it's obviously not as free flowing with the vapor as a standard size whip model or even a bag filler.

Secondly, you're wrong about being able to get 'thicker' vapor from a 'cano, or any bag filler. Thick vapor, at least to most vaporists, means dense vapor, not bigger hits. Although you can get bigger hits from a bag, because you're not pulling through a bowl packed with herb, bagged vapor is always less rich/dense than with direct draw, unless the whip vape is loaded with a very small amount of herb and has a large diameter vapor path, which a log vape doesn't have. The vapor to air ratio is lower with bags, since air is constantly forced through the vapor path with a pump or fan. A log vape has a high vapor/air ratio, due to the same small bowl and airway that can make it hard to draw through if the bowl is tightly packed or loaded with very fine ground herb.

This type of vape can provide a good number of hits from a bowl (exhale into some good lighting and you may be surprised at the amount of vapor you see and the number of hits from which you can see exhaled vapor), and it encourages you to conserve herb-at some point you just won't feel the need to reload for a while. So it's an excellent compromise between nice, vapor rich hits and efficiency. I wouldn't try to compare it to different designs. A car designed for high gas mileage won't get you from 0 to 60 in 4 seconds. Also keep in mind, especially vs. a bag filler, that your draw speed can affect your temp, even with a heat exchanger to help maintain a steady temp. Try different draw methods and keep in mind that how the bowl is loaded makes a difference in the draw as well. Give the WDZ a good try; maybe adjust your expectations and allow for the different design, and I think you'll grow to appreciate it.

momatik said:

Does the WDZ retain heat after coming to temperature and then being unplugged for any amount of time?

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You should be able to unplug, take it to another room and get a couple of good hits, thanks to the heat exchanger. A spare AC adapter comes in handy for moving a hot unit to another room too. Jameco Elect. has the 10081 for $10 and it pays to have a spare even if you always vape in the same place. The cord, where it meets the strain relief on the jack, gets a lot of stress. Quite a few log vape owners have had to get a replacement, including me.

There are quite a few videos of Purple Days demonstrations on youtube. I'm truly amazed by the quality of the vapor from such a small amount. I don't want to post videos of another vaporizer in the WDZ discussion, but a youtube search would result in plenty of hits.

Is the WDZ truly similar in this regard?

I'm sorry if I come off skeptical. It's just that, if the WDZ is just as effective, then it really doesn't make much sense that there is a 2 month waiting period for the PD. But I have read someone say in this thread before that the difference between the PD and the WDZ could possibly be insignificant, so I'm not sure what to believe.

momatik said:

..... then it really doesn't make much sense that there is a 2 month waiting period for the PD.

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There is no longer a 2 month waiting list.

momatik said:

There are quite a few videos of Purple Days demonstrations on youtube. I'm truly amazed by the quality of the vapor from such a small amount. I don't want to post videos of another vaporizer in the WDZ discussion, but a youtube search would result in plenty of hits.

Is the WDZ truly similar in this regard?

I'm sorry if I come off skeptical. It's just that, if the WDZ is just as effective, then it really doesn't make much sense that there is a 2 month waiting period for the PD. But I have read someone say in this thread before that the difference between the PD and the WDZ could possibly be insignificant, so I'm not sure what to believe.

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http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=nnwgvb&s=6
WZ dry hit

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http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=346rtb8&s=6
Through my water pipe

I'm sorry if I come off skeptical. It's just that, if the WDZ is just as effective, then it really doesn't make much sense that there is a 2 month waiting period for the PD. But I have read someone say in this thread before that the difference between the PD and the WDZ could possibly be insignificant, so I'm not sure what to believe.

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The difference is not significant. In a blind test I doubt you could tell the difference. As for the PD wait list not making sense, you have to know the history.

lwien said:

There is no longer a 2 month waiting list.

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But Vapenow is not yet accepting orders, so the WDZ and MZ are the best choices in this design if you want immediate delivery.

can someone post pics of their abv? I've been thinking about switching to a log to conserve on herb, my concern however is whether or not I'll get as thorough of extraction with a set-temp as I am with my current variable temp. ideally one would have one of each style vapes i imagine, but I'm in a situation where its one or the other, and i'm just wondering how satisfied i'll be with log vape only for the next few months.

pbmagnet4 said:

http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=nnwgvb&s=6
WZ dry hit

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http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=346rtb8&s=6
Through my water pipe

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Is that a 14.5mm joint? I take it the stock stems fit in there well? Does it move out of place easily if you bump it wrong? They should make short steams with GG on the end... or do they already?

steiner666 said:

i'm just wondering how satisfied i'll be with log vape only for the next few months.

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I think it depends on the person. I have an SSV sitting right next to the PD, but if my supply is high quality the SSV doesn't get much use. I tend to use it more when I have some mid grade. I'll also load it up when I want to get blasted in a hurry. I'll also usually end up cranking the temp up on the Surfer before I empty the bowl. You can't beat a temp control for accessing the whole vapor range, but the log vapes are the best design I've used for stretching your supply, and the hits can be quite satisfying for me. I can't say you wouldn't miss temp control over a period of months, but I could get by just fine.

ideally one would have one of each style vapes i imagine

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max said:

e but if my supply is high quality the SSV doesn't get much use. I tend to use it more when I have some mid grade. I'll also load it up when I want to get blasted in a hurry.

ideally one would have one of each style vapes i imagine

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Agreed. The log vape is for top shelvers as it usually takes less to get me where I want, and I like to 'enjoy' them. It makes em last a HELLUVA lot longer, and this is the ABV that goes into brownies/swampwater as its still very heavy with CBDs/CBNs

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Noisy Gnome said:

I definitely get thicker vapor in my 'cano bags and with less work.

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First of all, you can't expect a tiny bowl like this to provide the same kind of hits you get with other, larger vapes. OTOH, I've used big hitters and bag fillers for years, yet a PD has been my main vape since it first became available almost 2 1/2 years ago. This type of vape can provide very satisfactory hits IMO, and many others feel the same. But it's obviously not as free flowing with the vapor as a standard size whip model or even a bag filler.

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Yep, different strokes. There are times when I dont mind lighter hits but mostly I seem to want ones on the heavier side.

max said:

Secondly, you're wrong about being able to get 'thicker' vapor from a 'cano, or any bag filler. Thick vapor, at least to most vaporists, means dense vapor, not bigger hits. Although you can get bigger hits from a bag, because you're not pulling through a bowl packed with herb, bagged vapor is always less rich/dense than with direct draw, unless the whip vape is loaded with a very small amount of herb and has a large diameter vapor path, which a log vape doesn't have. The vapor to air ratio is lower with bags, since air is constantly forced through the vapor path with a pump or fan. A log vape has a high vapor/air ratio, due to the same small bowl and airway that can make it hard to draw through if the bowl is tightly packed or loaded with very fine ground herb.

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Yea maybe "thicker" wasn't the best adjective, maybe "more satisfying" would have been better but it remains that my 'Cano bags can make me cough, the Log hasn't done this yet.

max said:

This type of vape can provide a good number of hits from a bowl (exhale into some good lighting and you may be surprised at the amount of vapor you see and the number of hits from which you can see exhaled vapor), and it encourages you to conserve herb-at some point you just won't feel the need to reload for a while. So it's an excellent compromise between nice, vapor rich hits and efficiency. I wouldn't try to compare it to different designs. A car designed for high gas mileage won't get you from 0 to 60 in 4 seconds. Also keep in mind, especially vs. a bag filler, that your draw speed can affect your temp, even with a heat exchanger to help maintain a steady temp. Try different draw methods and keep in mind that how the bowl is loaded makes a difference in the draw as well. Give the WDZ a good try; maybe adjust your expectations and allow for the different design, and I think you'll grow to appreciate it.

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I'm definitely not passing early judgement and have much patience to allow myself to get used to the unit. I am also fully aware that different designs serve different applications and you must compare apples to apples.

I have already noticed I have started to get better pulls...I try a few stems everyday to make sure I get in ample tests over time.

does anyone know where a person can get the tiny c-clips that hold the screen in place inside the stem? maybe a hardware store???

im down to only 1 working stem because I was careless/high changing the screens and slowly lost the clips 1 by 1 over time lol.

You should be able to get them somewhere locally. It's not a specialty item. FYI-I've been using a PD since they were first available, and I've never had to change a screen for cleaning. Soak the whole tube in ISO or just add some and shake it up good. Rinse with water and it's ready to go after drying. The screen stays clean especially well if you make a habit of blowing out your ABV when the tube/stem is still hot.

so are they just called "c-clips" in the hardware store? what section? thanks for the reply

also i remove my screens to scrape out the "wandhash" when im dry. i used to do the ISO soak but i found scraping to be faster/easier.

C-clips is what I've heard them called. I'm sure you can describe 'em to an employee and find out.

also i remove my screens to scrape out the "wandhash" when im dry.

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OK. I've never done that with these tubes, so it didn't occur to me.

getvaked said:

does anyone know where a person can get the tiny c-clips that hold the screen in place inside the stem? maybe a hardware store???

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Ace Hardware stores (if you have one in your area) should have them.

Konadog said:

getvaked said:

does anyone know where a person can get the tiny c-clips that hold the screen in place inside the stem? maybe a hardware store???

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Ace Hardware stores (if you have one in your area) should have them.

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Automotive stores should have them as well

thanks for the replies. i was looking at ace hardwares website in hope of getting a part# to speed up the process in the store.....but i can't find anything close i tried searching "c-clip" and "spring clip" on ace's site and google but no luck.

Ace usually has a section that has parts in small drawers, you should find them there. Make it real easy, take one with you and just ask They also may be called retaining clips.

What we use are 1/4" internal retaining rings. I think all log vapes use the same in stems but cannot say for sure.
They have always worked the best and are easy to install at right angle to the tube with the end of the clip with the two little holes facing into the tip. Once in the tip, a 1/4" round something, like the smooth end of a 1/4" drill bit will drive them home flat as they should be. Push them tight against the crimp in the stem tip tube.
Ace or Lowes has them. We have the screen installation kit with screens and clips plus an installation tool on the website.

yea i was going to buy your kit(which is a great deal, includes a tool) but i didnt want to wait for shipping/ect.

i found a very similar clip at ace in the fasteners section. theyre the right size but they dont have the holes. just a normal "C". i found the exact same clip that is used in all the "log" style vapes, but they didnt have any small enough...maybe a larger ace hardware will have them.

also picked up a couple stainless steel screens from the plumbing section

thanks for the help, guys

Well, I ordered my first vape last week, a WDZ and it showed up today. This is my first vape and I can honestly say I'm hooked. Why didn't I find this years ago?

I do have a question, what should the ABV look like once it's done? My first stem only looked lighter and slightly brown when done.

Logged in another a few months, guess I have to give a props to the Woodez.

It has been an awesome ride. To anybody thinking about purchasing this, its pretty awesome. Just do it.

It is one of my all day vapes.

Sadly I am looking for a higher temp PV (it will be less efficient).

I don't normally use my AVB so I use it till its a dark brown. I know people say it will depend on strain but I find myself vaping a stem till its almost black or a dark brown. Which afterwards I might just throw in my MFLB.

Not sure if its just me but I can get the materials at the end of the stems to combust with very light draws (or the sipping method). To me its not a fault since I'm looking for a 500 degree PV now. I like the option if I keep working at a stem I can get to the higher temp canaboids. Just wish there was something I can get there faster.

I know I bought the Woodez because I couldn't find a PD (at the time) but since I can't compare to me the Woodez is the best log vape ever! The Woodez has never given me reason to look at a PD or a MZ (I did look but at the time the Woodez was the only one availiable).

The Woodez is definitely my weekend vape. I carry it around rooms just have to bring the power adapter, once its warmed up it stays warm for awhile. The aroma therapy cup works great and is a great reason to run this PV all day long. Not a fan of the warm up time which is one of the reasons I run it 24/7.

Thanks Todd! I know I am one of your unknown first buyers but your Woodez got me on the start of a smoke-free lifestyle.

Off topic has there been any new accessories for the log vapes in the last 6 months? Do need a little help from fellow FC'ers!

Back to my search for the highest temp whip/bag style.

Edit: sorry about the name mix up. Yes the mod was right the owner's name was Todd (checked through my emails when ordering).

getvaked said:

so are they just called "c-clips" in the hardware store? what section? thanks for the reply

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They are also called Circlips