Vaporizer high doesn't seem to last as long

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Ballgarian

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Hi all,

I've had a vaporbrothers for about a year now. I love the unit as it gets me messed up and I can toke on a bowl for 15 min before the herb runs out. However from the very beginning I noticed that the highs don't seem to last as long as a normal high. I've never mentioned this to my friends but now that it's been a year, 2 other people that have tried vaping have said the same thing without me prompting them, we all independently seemed to come to the same conclusion.

Has anyone else noticed this? Does anyone have any theories? Perhaps another model would work better?

Also I know combustion is bad, but when using a bowl or a bong I take 2-4 hits and get high. With this I toke for a full 15 min which is easily 15-30 hits...am I really smoking healthier doing that? It seems like I'm messing my lungs just as much but over a longer period of time. Any thoughts?
 
Ballgarian,
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disco

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When you inhale the vapor try holding it in longer. Breathe out a little bit of vapor, then take another breath of fresh air and hold. Repeat that until there is no more vapor in your hit.

Small things like that supposedly go a long way with the high sessions.

King Kong is also right. Taking a week or two off from smoking will completely reset your tolerance (or most of it, at least), getting you high as hell.

You can also try smoking/vapeing only 1-2 times a day. Anymore than that and your tolerance is just going to build exponentially. I try to limit myself to once a day, but it's damn hard because I love working stoned but I also love chilling stoned.

Good luck
 
disco,
B.

B.

War Criminal
I've found the oppsite to be true. I think the vape high lasts a little longer, and has an ifinitely smoother come down than smoking.

I try to stay at the lower temps for the most part, turnin it up only a little towars the end of the load. It's usually light brown with a little bit of medium brown speckles.

What does your ABV look like?

Maybe if you're at higher temps there's a difference between a pure thc high and a thc high combined with CBD and CBN.

And... a tolerance break is probably a good idea. How much do you vape a day/a month?
 
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vape4health

vape4health

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B. said:
I've found the oppsite to be true. I think the vape high lasts a little longer, and has an ifinitely smoother come down than smoking.
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Me too , I 100% agree
 
vape4health,
niall

niall

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Also try increasing your initial temp and make sure you've got a consistently fine grind.
 
niall,
Hippie Dickie

Hippie Dickie

The Herbal Cube
Manufacturer
i find i don't seem as high while i'm just sitting here and working, but when i get up and move around or go into town, i realize just how high i really am. And it depends on the quality of the strain of bud.
 
DevoTheStrange

DevoTheStrange

Ia! Ia! Vapor Fthagn!
I agree with Hippie, it is a much cleaner high, you don't really notice it until you have too react too the outside world.
 
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Frickr

Frickr

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i think vaporizers are better for daily users just because the high doesnt leave you retarded stoned. I know some people like that feeling they get from combustion, but i like being able to go out and function like the high i get with vaping. i find that the high lasts right about the same time. just the comedown isnt as intense. and slowly wears off instead of dropping off and all you want to do is take a nap. one PD bowl gets me stoned for 2 hours. i smoke a pinchy of the same time, im stoned for an hour.

I just realized typing this stoned is a great discription for combustion, but doesnt fit to well for the vape high.
 
Frickr,
Chubba

Chubba

Vaporbonger
tolerance break time
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Yep.

Vapor is more effecient, but that also means a tolerance will build faster and stronger... it doesn't take long for my 4 hour highs to dwindle down to 45 minutes if I'm vaping everyday.

Also I know combustion is bad, but when using a bowl or a bong I take 2-4 hits and get high. With this I toke for a full 15 min which is easily 15-30 hits...am I really smoking healthier doing that? It seems like I'm messing my lungs just as much but over a longer period of time. Any thoughts?
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Vaporbong.

I had the EXACT same thoughts with my PD. I'm only using 0.1-0.2g a session, but it seemed like I was inhaling absolutely massive amounts of hot air and my throat/lungs were definitely taking a beating.

Once I connected a bong and waterfiltered, all concerns went out the window, nice room temp water filtered vapor is just a delight.
 
Chubba,
DevoTheStrange

DevoTheStrange

Ia! Ia! Vapor Fthagn!
The high I experience while vaping normally lasts an or Two, with a nice relaxing period afterward. If i smoke, the high is gone 30 minutes later with a feeling total sobriety afterward. But I believe this is due too the tolerance I have built up too vaping. I vape amounts that would totally knock someone else on their ass, just too get a slight feeling. I'm pretty sure if I had too give up MJ I would piss dirty for months
 
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exdmd

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You probably need to take a break as mentioned. So do I, but it will have to wait until after the holidays, no way I'm going to stay sober through New Years:)

I've noticed that with certain strains I prefer the high I get from using a bong over the Myrtlezap. Smoking a lot of ice hash lately, and the high is definitely better for me at this time using a bong. It's also easier to just put a pinch of hash on a bed of ash in the bong and hit it.
 
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tdavie

tdavie

Unconscious Objector
disco said:
You can also try smoking/vapeing only 1-2 times a day. Anymore than that and your tolerance is just going to build exponentially. I try to limit myself to once a day, but it's damn hard because I love working stoned but I also love chilling stoned.

Good luck
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I am one of these rare people that need much less to get high the more I smoke. And it's not just that the weed now is stronger than it was say 30 years ago. If I smoke all day for a week, at the end of a week, it takes *one* hit to get me blazed. If I lay off for a month, then it's back to having to smoke 1/2 or most of a joint. Reverse tolerance is not a myth.


Tom
 
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hopandstop

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exdmd said:
I've noticed that with certain strains I prefer the high I get from using a bong over the Myrtlezap. Smoking a lot of ice hash lately, and the high is definitely better for me at this time using a bong. It's also easier to just put a pinch of hash on a bed of ash in the bong and hit it.
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Have you tried using hash with the MZ? I use it all the time with the PD... just grind it a bit with my fingers or a grinder and add the powdered hash between layers of plant material, or even on the top of the vapor tube. Works wonders and the flavor and punch (if you are using quality concentrates) is intense.

Obviously you hold the MZ/PD at an upwards angle (second nature to me).
 
hopandstop,
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lepstadder

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B. wrote:

I've found the oppsite to be true. I think the vape high lasts a little longer, and has an ifinitely smoother come down than smoking.

Me too , I 100% agree
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I concur as well
 
lepstadder,
standard

standard

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tdavie said:
disco said:
You can also try smoking/vapeing only 1-2 times a day. Anymore than that and your tolerance is just going to build exponentially. I try to limit myself to once a day, but it's damn hard because I love working stoned but I also love chilling stoned.

Good luck
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I am one of these rare people that need much less to get high the more I smoke. And it's not just that the weed now is stronger than it was say 30 years ago. If I smoke all day for a week, at the end of a week, it takes *one* hit to get me blazed. If I lay off for a month, then it's back to having to smoke 1/2 or most of a joint. Reverse tolerance is not a myth.


Tom
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I am interested in your methods, siir. How may I subscribe to your newsletter?
 
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lwien

lwien

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standard said:
I am interested in your methods, siir. How may I subscribe to your newsletter?
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The Antithesis Argonaut
The Reverse Review
The Contra Gazzette
or........
The Retroversion Renegade

I'm a bit vaked, so..........that was kinda fun. :/
 
lwien,
sneezyjesus

sneezyjesus

Lightly Toasted
I would have agreed with you, except that last night I vaped an entire bowl on my VG, as compared to just covering the screen to conserve, and got stoopid.
I mean I could function a-ok, but my brain was floating off in space with a data-life-line keeping it safe :ko:

I would comment on tolerance, but after I went to Amsterdam before Thanksgiving something in my bud-experience just...changed, :lol:
 
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albe

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agree with the short exhale/inhale trick to boost the high. Also standing and walking to the other side of the room gives me major headspins with a lung full of vapes. Just stay away from stairs, i fainted doing this once lol :o

another thing i find helps is exercise. (Not always an appealing option i know.) But an hour or two on the bike and i am VERY ripped when i hit the vapes afterward.
 
albe,
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YoungethKinsaul

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albe said:
agree with the short exhale/inhale trick to boost the high. Also standing and walking to the other side of the room gives me major headspins with a lung full of vapes. Just stay away from stairs, i fainted doing this once lol :o

another thing i find helps is exercise. (Not always an appealing option i know.) But an hour or two on the bike and i am VERY ripped when i hit the vapes afterward.
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Holding hits in till you faint is never a good idea
 
YoungethKinsaul,
aero18

aero18

vaporist
YoungethKinsaul said:
albe said:
agree with the short exhale/inhale trick to boost the high. Also standing and walking to the other side of the room gives me major headspins with a lung full of vapes. Just stay away from stairs, i fainted doing this once lol :o

another thing i find helps is exercise. (Not always an appealing option i know.) But an hour or two on the bike and i am VERY ripped when i hit the vapes afterward.
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Holding hits in till you faint is never a good idea
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Unless you like passing out! :lol:
 
aero18,
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albe

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aero18 said:
YoungethKinsaul said:
albe said:
agree with the short exhale/inhale trick to boost the high. Also standing and walking to the other side of the room gives me major headspins with a lung full of vapes. Just stay away from stairs, i fainted doing this once lol :o

another thing i find helps is exercise. (Not always an appealing option i know.) But an hour or two on the bike and i am VERY ripped when i hit the vapes afterward.
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Holding hits in till you faint is never a good idea
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Unless you like passing out! :lol:
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:lol: and hurting your head ! it was a hellish hot day, i thinks dehydration was also a factor. (Not a good combo for sure...)
 
albe,
lord

lord

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tdavie said:
I am one of these rare people that need much less to get high the more I smoke. And it's not just that the weed now is stronger than it was say 30 years ago. If I smoke all day for a week, at the end of a week, it takes *one* hit to get me blazed. If I lay off for a month, then it's back to having to smoke 1/2 or most of a joint. Reverse tolerance is not a myth.

Tom
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I experience this as well. I have a routine of vaping one to two times a week. If I break out of this routine, and take a week or two off, the next time I vape it doesn't get me as high as usual...

It seems T-breaks can increase my tolerance.
 
lord,
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