I received the Flower Pot (almost V2) today. I have to say, it shows serious promise.
The piece is beautiful. Just stunning. I expected that from Mobius. However, the one I got is not the final version of the V2...the top cap on mine does not have the long stem attached as pictured on the previous post....but otherwise it is exactly the same as best I can tell (and was told by the vendor after I ordered).
So I got out my Scorch Torch (biggest torch I had at that moment), and my Mobius Ion Matrix with 14mm adapter, and prepared to give it a trial. Filled bowl to just first mark (the bowl is HUGE), and put on the cap, and started to heat. Counted to about 30 (knew I would need much longer than the directions posted on this thread as those are using a propane torch---more on that shortly), and tried to take a hit....nothing. Need more heat. 20 more seconds---nothing. Another 20, still no vapor. Starting to get a bit of flavor though. This went on a time or 2 more, then I hit it with about a 30 second heat----and when I started to draw, the bowl went orange and we had full out combustion!!! Dammit!! Fortunately, everything on this thing is glass----everything except screen. Nothing to get fouled by smoke. Quick rinse and 5 minutes later it's time to try again.
This time I heated for about a minute, then for several 10-20 second bursts. After a few tries I finally hit the PERFECT temp and got a PHENOMENAL hit. I am not kidding, it white-walled my piece like nothing ever has and delivered a monster hit. One of the biggest I've had from any vape ever. I was able to get several more hits off this bowl while I was in the right temp range. It was very nice, but had to watch heat as I was getting close to ignition again. You can see the herb CLEARLY in the bowl as you hit and watch it change, with the all glass bowl right in front of you, it's so cool!!!
In reality though, the torch I had was simply not going to work. You'd never get consistent temps having to hold it on there for 90 seconds or more, and same for reheats between bowls. On the facebook thread (and contrary to a post earlier in this thread about propane being too hot for the quartz---I know nothing on this subject?), John Mobius recommends and practically insists on using a Bernzomatic TS8000 High Intensity Trigger Start Torch, so I went to Home Depot and got one.
Sheesh, this thing is huge and it is loud. Nothing discreet happening here. Pretty sure my neighbors can hear this thing.
Anyway, fresh load, this time I heat for about 17 seconds from cold, and I get a perfect hit. Perfect. Excellent. I am not kidding, it was fabulous.
I rest for a few seconds (so I can recover), 6-7 second reheat, and another excellent hit.....I got several more hits like this. Seemed to go on a while, and I got consistent results each draw.
So, it works incredibly well. I am just so pleased at this moment.
BUT (and it's a big but), the lack of a way to handle that hot cap due to not having the stem simply sucks! I got a set of silicone coated tongs that are perfect to handle it for now, but not an ideal long-term solution. I hope the vendor comes through and makes this right as they said they would. Also, having to use that large ass torch is a huge turn off for me. Hope to find something in the middle that can be used, but not sure as longer heat times exasperate the lack of any type of temp sensor. Last drawback is same as most torch devices......that heated block of quartz is really, really hot and a bit dangerous. Much like the Supreme, caution MUST be exercised at all times.
Now that I have a proper torch (but I hate the torch itself so big and loud), I think I love this vaporizer. 100% glass except the screen. Nothing else at all. Not one wire, scrap of lead, solder, glue, or anything else that gets complained about. No butane being inhaled (not that I personally worry much about most of that stuff, just sayin'), all without being plugged in. I kid you not, and I won't swear to this yet, but I believe this hits on the level of the Supreme. More testing needed, which will take a bit due to the need for additional privacy. I get that it's fragile (actually feels pretty strong, I guess because it's quartz?), but it's not for travel. It pairs so nicely with my Ion too. So simple and looks elegant sitting on top of it!! What a beautiful pair.
. I have only combusted once, and that was the very first use. I've slightly charred a bowl or 2 since, but no more combustion. Still, I hate the torch and would love to find an alternative.