Crafty/Crafty+ by Storz & Bickel

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Also looking for an answer to the eBay question... what firmware did yours come at?

Mine was 2.10 from eBay and is ~50hrs still kicking.

Is the main problem the thermal fuse? Can us eBay guys just replace that fuse after cracking open the housing?

dunwich said:
Thanks t-dub

Must admit that i have a little buyers remorse. I just looked through this forum and it seems like there is no chance in hell that an Crafty will outlive it's 2 years warranty, and since im a heavy user, i'll probably also be having problems with the battery life. Where do I stand regarding warranty considdering that Ive bought a used unit from Ebay? Will they still replace it if it brakes? Im in Europe if that matters anything.
I got the Crafty instead of the Mighty because of stealth, but now im considdering buying a Mighty for home use, and then just use the Crafty when im out. This way the Crafty might also have a chance to survive a little longer.
I must admit that im shocked to read that all Craftys seems to die within a couple of years, max.
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Is it true that the Crafty only lives for a couple of years max?

Ordering one next week and this is kind of disappointing to hear with just a 2 year warranty.
 
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dunwich said:
Where do I stand regarding warranty considdering that Ive bought a used unit from Ebay?
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As long as its real you should be able to get service. Other people have purchased Craftys second hand and have received warranty service, some without having a proof of purchase. However I didn't do this myself and I am not sure if it was a one-off situation or not.

Don't worry about your Crafty's lifespan, just enjoy it. Many issues have been resolved since the first ones came out. Mine has been going strong for a long time now. battery life will vary depending on usage, this is not covered under warranty so be aware.
 
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I just got off the phone with S&B (Germany). Very positive. They looked up the SN for me, and it is a genuine unit I bought. Secondly I asked where I stood in terms of warranty when buying from eBay. She told me it was no problem and if something brakes the warranty will work as usual no matter what.
Yay!
Mine is firmware 2.08 - is there any good reason to send it in for firmware upgrade?
 
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dunwich said:
Mine is firmware 2.08 - is there any good reason to send it in for firmware upgrade?
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As long as your crafty pairs with your phone correctly, and functions correctly, I would use it. No need to fix something that isn't broken. If you send it in and it comes back and refuses to pair with your phone . . . well that would suck.
 
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I joined the party this week. US order w/ serial number CY51G*** edit: ordered direct from S&B

Firmware 2.10. Heat up time is around 100 seconds.

My other vapes are a Firefly 2 of a few months and a Volcano of 8 years (basically all I've used since besides a handful of rolled combustibles and an iolite that functioned for a little while when away from home).

I got into portables lately because I wanted something on the go. I never loved the iolite, so I always assumed portables were just ok at best. I debated heavily between the FF2 and the Crafty but ultimately thought the FF2 was better for my portable use and I was correct. Once I experienced how strong the FF2 is, I decided I wanted to go all portables and stash the Volcano away for special occasions. As much as I love it, I'm no longer interested in having a vape as a focal point in my living room. haha

Not going to do a full review until maybe I've put some miles on it. I am very impressed, though. The thing is a beast in a very small package. There was a bit of a new vape smell that was oddly identical to a new car smell, but that seems to be clearing up. I also had to take off my smart watch and go into my closet to pair the thing to my phone, but we are all good now. I love the interface to the mobile app (at least the screen with the controls, the rest looks dated). Its so responsive just like an interface directly on the device. Color me impressed.

My plan is to do all capsules. Part of my reason for adding this to supplement the FF2 was that I wanted something that was good to session and relax without needing to stir and dump and refill. If I want to go another round, I just want to swap out a pre-packed can and go to town. This hasn't happened yet because the crafty punches pretty hard and I'm a relative lightweight. Instead, I'm finding that I can actually end a session without much waste by opening and dumping the capsule out when I'm done. The few times I've done it, I got a great follow up session later with the same capsule. Anyone else doing this?

I do plan to run this thing daily and if that means needing a second one or a mighty when my current one needs to be serviced, I'm ok with that. I know opening it hot isn't the best thing for it either, but I'm going to use it like I want to use it. Fingers crossed.

Thanks to FC, my collection grew from "just" a Volcano to add a FF2, Crafty and OmniVap (on order)! I know none of you will believe me, but I think I'm good for a while.
 
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greenextinguisher said:
I joined the party this week. US order w/ serial number CY51G*** edit: ordered direct from S&B

Firmware 2.10. Heat up time is around 100 seconds.

My other vapes are a Firefly 2 of a few months and a Volcano of 8 years (basically all I've used since besides a handful of rolled combustibles and an iolite that functioned for a little while when away from home).

I got into portables lately because I wanted something on the go. I never loved the iolite, so I always assumed portables were just ok at best. I debated heavily between the FF2 and the Crafty but ultimately thought the FF2 was better for my portable use and I was correct. Once I experienced how strong the FF2 is, I decided I wanted to go all portables and stash the Volcano away for special occasions. As much as I love it, I'm no longer interested in having a vape as a focal point in my living room. haha

Not going to do a full review until maybe I've put some miles on it. I am very impressed, though. The thing is a beast in a very small package. There was a bit of a new vape smell that was oddly identical to a new car smell, but that seems to be clearing up. I also had to take off my smart watch and go into my closet to pair the thing to my phone, but we are all good now. I love the interface to the mobile app (at least the screen with the controls, the rest looks dated). Its so responsive just like an interface directly on the device. Color me impressed.

My plan is to do all capsules. Part of my reason for adding this to supplement the FF2 was that I wanted something that was good to session and relax without needing to stir and dump and refill. If I want to go another round, I just want to swap out a pre-packed can and go to town. This hasn't happened yet because the crafty punches pretty hard and I'm a relative lightweight. Instead, I'm finding that I can actually end a session without much waste by opening and dumping the capsule out when I'm done. The few times I've done it, I got a great follow up session later with the same capsule. Anyone else doing this?

I do plan to run this thing daily and if that means needing a second one or a mighty when my current one needs to be serviced, I'm ok with that. I know opening it hot isn't the best thing for it either, but I'm going to use it like I want to use it. Fingers crossed.

Thanks to FC, my collection grew from "just" a Volcano to add a FF2, Crafty and OmniVap (on order)! I know none of you will believe me, but I think I'm good for a while.
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Rather than drop out the hot capsule for a second session later, why not half pack a capsule and use a capsule liquid pad as a spacer?

(Only downside being that you would need to carry more capsules).
 
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Thcgos said:
Rather than drop out the hot capsule for a second session later, why not half pack a capsule and use a capsule liquid pad as a spacer?

(Only downside being that you would need to carry more capsules).
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Sounds like a great option. Do you think the liquid pad is necessary? It wasn't really my intention, but I was sufficiently faded and still had plenty of hits left, so I just gave it a shot.

8 full capsules could probably get me through a week, so a bunch of half-filled wouldn't be an issue.

I love the attention to detail with the crafty and its accessories. The capsule case can be used as a clamp to remove capsule lids (I learned that here) and can be used as a funnel when filling capsules or other containers. I love having less stuff, so anything multi-function is cool with me.
 
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greenextinguisher said:
Sounds like a great option. Do you think the liquid pad is necessary?
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The times that I do go solo I always use 1/3 full and the liquid pad ontop.
I tried 2x without it and I don't think it performed as well (but it still worked).

S&B actually advise you to use the liquid pad for partially filled loads (see the instruction manual).

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Thcgos said:
The times that I do go solo I always use 1/3 full and the liquid pad ontop.
I tried 2x without it and I don't think it performed as well (but it still worked).

S&B actually advise you to use the liquid pad for partially filled loads (see the instruction manual).

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Personally, I'm not a fan of the pad as a spacer. Too cumbersome, it comes apart, a little messier than using a screen.... I find a screen with a wedge cut out (so it looks like pac man) works great as a spacer. Much easier and cleaner than the pad, serves its primary function (as a spacer) and helps keep the cu clean. Give it a try!
 
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dunwich

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Hey there. My Crafty is on its way to me, and I cant wait to test it. However it comes without a charger/power supply (its a used Crafty from eBay), so I need to get one. Which ones work for the Crafty? Will my Samsung phone charger be able to do it?
 
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Cashew

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Hi I don't have time to comb through all these posts so forgive me. I was just wondering what the best website is to purchase a crafty that will honor the warranty. eBay has the best price for a brand new one but I'm a little leery. Any advice?
 
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Cashew said:
I was just wondering what the best website is to purchase a crafty that will honor the warranty.
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S&B has been very good at honoring warranties even if the unit is purchased second hand and there is no proof of purchase. E-bay has not been a problem from what I have read here. It seems as long as you have a genuine unit with a good serial# they will do warranty work. The only thing on E-bay is you want to make sure you are getting a real Crafty, not a knock off, and a new one that hasn't been used.
 
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Cashew said:
Hi I don't have time to comb through all these posts so forgive me. I was just wondering what the best website is to purchase a crafty that will honor the warranty. eBay has the best price for a brand new one but I'm a little leery. Any advice?
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Email Randy @ puffitup.com and you get a really good price and unbeatable customer service.

I'm in Canada and still purchase from puffitup since I know I Will be looked after!
 
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Cashew

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Thanks for the tips guys. Is there anyway to tell if it's a real one or a knock off on eBay?
 
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dunwich said:
Hey there. My Crafty is on its way to me, and I cant wait to test it. However it comes without a charger/power supply (its a used Crafty from eBay), so I need to get one. Which ones work for the Crafty? Will my Samsung phone charger be able to do it?
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Standard USB charge cable. I use the one that came with my Samsung S5 mini.
 
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Cashew said:
Thanks for the tips guys. Is there anyway to tell if it's a real one or a knock off on eBay?
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Although the knock-off threads here address the Mighty we can take a few cues from this. First make sure the hologram is on top of the cooling unit with the Crafty logo. Second, make sure the o-rings are the proper color. Third, get the serial# of the unit you wish to purchase and call S&B to find out if its real or not. The unit should have the proper factory "sticker" on it with this info. Get as many pics as you can of the box and accessories and make sure you are getting a factory sealed unit that has everything in it.
 
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I purchased my mighty from eBay and have been very happy, I emailed the seller first asking when they received their order from s&b to ensure it was the latest version. For crafty you can message and ask them if they have the latest firmware on them.
 
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t-dub said:
Although the knock-off threads here address the Mighty we can take a few cues from this. First make sure the hologram is on top of the cooling unit with the Crafty logo. Second, make sure the o-rings are the proper color.
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I bought a Mighty direct from s&b. The o-rings on the vape look like o-rings that have been associated with the counterfeit/fakes, but the spare parts I ordered are the lighter/softer looking blue color. I read somewhere that S&B is using different colored o-rings now.
 
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MyCollife said:
I bought a Mighty direct from s&b. The o-rings on the vape look like o-rings that have been associated with the counterfeit/fakes, but the spare parts I ordered are the lighter/softer looking blue color. I read somewhere that S&B is using different colored o-rings now.
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Yes that is true. I was only giving some basic guidelines as to what we have seen as far as regular and counterfeit units. If you wish to write the be-all end-all Crafty/Mighty knock-off thread be my guest.
 
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I'm impressed with S&B support. RMA process is very smooth, improved from last year. Mailing label provided, no charges, no hassle. Very pleased. Especially pleased with the $0 invoice. Was expecting to pay $70 battery replacement fee, but they sent me a new unit. Do you folks suppose S&B use the onboard stored data and run the numbers (hours, age, charge cycles, etc?) to determine if a unit merits a fee charged or not? My unit was still working, but vibration was intermittent and warmup times were suddenly slowing down. Applied for RMA at 77 hours, one year old.

Different topic, on emptying capsules: Unfortunately, my latest herbal acquisition has an odd texture and wants to remain in the capsule when I try to dump it. After removing lid, if it doesn't empty easily, use that lid with a scooping motion into the stuck ABV puck -- disrupts/dislodges enough to then tap and blow out.
 
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ChooChooCharlie said:
I'm impressed with S&B support. RMA process is very smooth, improved from last year. Mailing label provided, no charges, no hassle. Very pleased. Especially pleased with the $0 invoice. Was expecting to pay $70 battery replacement fee, but they sent me a new unit. Do you folks suppose S&B use the onboard stored data and run the numbers (hours, age, charge cycles, etc?) to determine if a unit merits a fee charged or not? My unit was still working, but vibration was intermittent and warmup times were suddenly slowing down. Applied for RMA at 77 hours, one year old.

Different topic, on emptying capsules: Unfortunately, my latest herbal acquisition has an odd texture and wants to remain in the capsule when I try to dump it. After removing lid, if it doesn't empty easily, use that lid with a scooping motion into the stuck ABV puck -- disrupts/dislodges enough to then tap and blow out.
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I agree, their recent rma process is way better than before!
For your battery, S&B can effectively see onboard's data, number of cycle, higher temperature etc etc but if you are an EU(or Australian folks) resident, battery are covered by the warranty.
But for US citizen battery are wear and tear and not covered, although it seems to have a 80 hours limit for replacing the battery under warranty for US citizen (not sure about that but I read it here, s&b doesn't reply to that question in my mail).
 
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This group of seven orphaned CU's are being prepared to meet their new Crafty father. Exciting for the four CU's who were purchased separately, but I'm sure it's different for the other three who had real Crafty fathers once. I reassure them by explaining how their fathers became tired and needed a vacation.

Let's listen in:

"Relax folks, your hologram locking caps are safe. They will be returned to you after your iso bath. Pardon these vinyl gloves while I separate your sticky halves. Yeah, I feel your pain, little O-rings. Especially you medium sized ones on the locking stem. I know you've been mistreated, not pushed and prodded down far enough. Yes, O-rings, I went to the Storz-Bickel site and looked through the FAQ pages like you told me. You were right, here is their PDF picture of proper installation:

http://www.storz-bickel.com/media/pdf/How-to-place-the-Cooling-Units-inner-o-rings.pdf

I'll try to do a better job with your descendants when you get too tired. And, no, to the rest of you O-rings, I won't be taking you off. You'll soak in place. All right, everyone in the tub!"

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Just a ziplock bag with iso, dunked in very hot water. I cheat and use one of those instant hot water taps - you can see it in the sink. When taking bag out to shake and swish around, be careful how you hold the bag; the iso in ziplock is hot. 5-10 min is fine.

Ziegfeld took over directorial duties for the final drying scene.

If you don't care about reclaiming, and want an easy to clean vape, the Crafty seems pretty easy to me. Suggestion: Use capsules and buy extra CU's for weekly rotation. Group bath time once a month or so, Japanese style.
 
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