Volatizer M2

[stinkmeaner]

I have searched high and low and can not find any real review of the Volatizer M2 which comes from a the makers of the M1 that was in the MAPS study. I am surprised nobody talks about this product, good or bad. The M2 looks to be well made and actually made from scratch to be a vaporizer, unlike a similar product the VHW which is a soldering iron. The Volitizer is backed by a 20 yr old chiropractic supply company Chiro-Tec.

 

[macbill]

$329 at one on-line store (Rollies). Seems spendy, but for those that enjoy utilizing water as a filter, it might be just the ticket.

 

[max]

I'd send Vaporstore an email and ask about it - sales@vaporstore.com. Yes they sell it, but since they've registered as a member here, I'd tell 'em you're also an FC member and you'd like an honest opinion of it. I think they'll be more likely to give you the honest opinion you're looking for, vs. a sales pitch, if the rep knows you're an experienced vaporist and FC member. I've corresponded with them quite a few times over the years and they've always been straight with me. Ask how it compares to the APE Vape Nano, which is very similar and about $70 more. They sell that one too.

 

[stinkmeaner]

Yeah max I think that is a good idea to mention FC so that they don't give me a sales pitch, I found a post from someone on fullmeltbubble that has a Volatizer M1 which is the original one with the aluminum handle in the MAPS study and he said he has three of them which he has owned them for 10 yrs.

The ApeVape looks suspicious to me, almost like it is was another off the shelf product that someone bought and tinkered with it then started selling it as a vaporizer, just look how they cover the bulb with piece of metal and then bolt it in with regular hardware store nuts & bolts, someone wouldn't go through all of the trouble to design a mini computer/temp controller and then have a special handle created out of molded plastic then go and finish it off at the hardware store.

This looks like it is some heating lamp of some sort and some person thought they could make it into a vaporizer.

 

[NoSmoke]

The vhw is a soldering iron with one hell of a handmade glass cover, IMO the two vapes don't even compare, all glass is another league.

 

[stinkmeaner]

This all glass thing is an obsession if you ask me, I bet if someone blindfolded you and made you take a hit from a VHW and a Herborizer elements on the same waterpipe you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. I mean do you cook with all glass pots & pans or use custom made glass silverware?

The PD is one of the most acclamed vape on the net and there is not glass in sight, infact the vapor touches wood, metal, and plastic all in one go.....and people can't get enough of the thing.

If you look at the design of the M2 it has a quartz heating element surounded by a ceramic that radiates heat down on the herb which rests in glass bowl, if you have a nice clean bong you should taste nothing but nice smooth vapor.

No offense NoSmoke but you really can't say they don't compare if you have not tried both, it just doesn't make sense.

 

[NoSmoke]

The Herbo is all glass so I have no clue what you mean there, the PD isn't glorified for its "taste" so again I'm stumped, and yes I can compare the two, on one the heating element is obviously exposed and on the other its covered with glass

If you wanna do a test try taking a Silver Surfer and using it with a bong with no tubing, then take a Vrip, the only difference you have is no glass covering the heater, and that itself makes for a taste that leaves you beggin for more, so for you to say its basically a soldering iron is just hilarious. All glass=more tasty

 

[stinkmeaner]

Herborizer uses a simple stainless steel cartridge heater.

 

[NoSmoke]

Herborizer uses a simple stainless steel cartridge heater.

In a all glass air path

 

[stinkmeaner]

Looks to me that the air does touch the heater. But IMO the it doesn't matter in most cases if the heating element touches the air if you are using a glass waterpipe with no silicone, the Verdamper & Herborizer are regarded as a pure tasting vaporizer and they both have a heating element in the air path. Silicone can leave a plastic like taste sometimes.


Without using both products you cannot say which product is better than another, you have not used the Volatizer M2, so why even comment if you have no experience with it. Please don't attempt to argue in this thread anymore, there is no point. I started this thread so I could hopefully find user opinons of the M2.

 

[NoSmoke]

I'm not "arguing" with you.:/ But you obviously need to do your research, the herbo is an all glass vapor path and it looks to me like that heater is pretty covered up with glass. And the reason you can't find info on the M2 is because most likely its a POS.

"Looks to me that the air does touch the heater But IMO the it doesn't matter in most cases if the heating element touches the air if you are using a glass waterpipe with no silicone" <<<<<I know from personal experience that is not true


And I did not say what product is better but I did say you can't compare an all glass vapor path with a non all glass you just cant , accept it for what it is. And your welcome to do the test I've done find someone with a Silver Surfer and a all glass vapo, and use the Surfer with no silicone on a waterpipe, then take a vrip, then tell me which one is tastier and cloudier.

 

[stickstones]

nosmoke...you're losing me on the ssv/vrip comparison. Both units have a ceramic heater covered by glass. I can't even tell which one you like better. But I have been curious since I read an earlier post (yours?) using the ssv without the tubing on a glass bong. That sounded divine!

 

[stinkmeaner]

Clearly in the picture of the Herborizer above, the air has to pass over the Stainless steel heating element, so please don't tell me to do my research. The heater is not going to "poison" the air anyway, I made a SSV/Hakko wand and besides from looking like a science experience it tastes just as good as my friends VHW heat wand.

 

[max]

The Herbo has a ceramic element, enclosed by stainless steel. A year ago or so Sebastien attempted to meet demand from anti metal fans by using a ceramic only heater. He stuck with his ss covered design when he found that performance suffered when using ceramic only. The enclosed ceramic does a better job of maintaining temp.

NoSmoke, this thread topic is the Volatizer M2. Or at least it was. You've taken it off track into Herbos and VHWs, glass, taste, and your posts have been trollish toward either the hardware or the OP. The last on topic post was #6. If stinkmeaner wants to continue the M2 topic, it's his thread, otherwise....

 

[stinkmeaner]

Thanks Max.
I really like the VHW (friend has one) and would like to try the Herborizer, Verdamper and the Volatizer M2 in order to make an educated decision on which one to get. I sometimes cheat and end up combusting because I miss the whole process of using a water bong, I think if I get one of these type of vaporizers I would not even need to bother burning herb anymore. It was pretty nice when I had a Hakko/SSV wand I made but I took it apart so I could sell the Silver Surfer.

From the sound of crickets in this thread it looks like I can scratch the Volatizer M2 off my list. As it stands now I think the Herborizer and the Verdamper are at the top of my list over the VHW heat wand because I like that they stay on the bowl with a GONG connection and you dont have to hold them. I am not too worried about the Stainless steel and nicrome in the air path because I don't think I would be able to taste the difference.

 

[NoSmoke]

"You gotta pay the troll toll to get into this boys hole" -Its Always Sunny In Philadelphia. I was just stating that exposed ceramic does not taste as good as non exposed ceramic (all-glass), and stinkmeaner is telling me its an "obsession". And I know this to be very true because I have tried it (surfer vhw test) granted you need the older style whip to use the surfer as a wand but it can be done and simply does not taste as good, even with the same herb. Guess I'm being a troll again, so lay down the banhammer.

 

[stonemonkey55]

just a few points:

whether or not the ape vape is created from pre existing parts, it works better than the Volatizer based on the handful of times that I have used both. to me, that is more important than whether or not something was built from scratch. Yes, the VHW is merely a soldering iron with a glass heater cover, but the genius itself is in the heater cover and why i prefer my vhw over the herbo.

Nosmoke, the air path actually touches the stainless steel with the Herbo. Asides from the gong connection, the biggest difference is how the air enters and exits their respective heating element. The airpath for the herbo is straight thru and depending how fast you pull, it can drastically affect the density of your vapor. The vhw has the air swirling before exiting which results in much more consistent heat.

last point of mine is that vaporizer are like cars. All of them can get you from point a to point b. If you just want to get intoxicated, the selection of vaporizer is plentiful. If you care about taste, experience, etc etc, to me, a glass encapsulated heating element cannot be beat. I can definitely tasted a difference between the herbo, ssv, and vhw so for me, I need something like the VHW to be fully satisfied. If you don't notice a taste difference, then you can use a purple days, ssv, herbo, etc etc

to close this out, i have never used a light bulb/halogen style vaporizer that worked well. I don't think they respond to temp change well and you have to use a very particular breathing style for half way decent vapes.

 

[stinkmeaner]

just a few points:

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whether or not the ape vape is created from pre existing parts, it works better than the Volatizer based on the handful of times that I have used both. to me, that is more important than whether or not something was built from scratch. Yes, the VHW is merely a soldering iron with a glass heater cover, but the genius itself is in the heater cover and why i prefer my vhw over the herbo.

Thanks, this is the reply I have been waiting for, the Herborier and VHW both give the air for a long travel through the heating chamber before it actually hits the herb which assures you are getting properly heated air that will not create hot spots and on the other hand the Volatizer looks to have a top mount heat source in which radiates the heat without air flow.

Back to the APE VAPE, I like the PC temp control but I don't like the idea of the hardware store parts that cover the halogen light, I wonder why they didn't leave that metal crap off and so that the Halogen light radiates directly over the herb. Just seems like for the $500 price that it needs have a little class.

 

[max]

"You gotta pay the troll toll to get into this boys hole" -Its Always Sunny In Philadelphia. I was just stating that exposed ceramic does not taste as good as non exposed ceramic (all-glass), and stinkmeaner is telling me its an "obsession". And I know this to be very true because I have tried it (surfer vhw test) granted you need the older style whip to use the surfer as a wand but it can be done and simply does not taste as good, even with the same herb. Guess I'm being a troll again, so lay down the banhammer.

Granted he mentioned the VHW first, but his obsession comment was in response to you jumping in to defend that model. You called his opinion "hilarious" and the M2 "most likely" a POS. So IMO you went a little overboard in your comments and took the thread off track too much as well. No big deal. It happens. With around 10k posts on various forums, I've been guilty of the same thing myself in the past. As for the banhammer crack, I don't appreciate comments like that. Now if you'd called someone an asshole or something similar, that would have been good for a week's vacation from the forum.

i have never used a light bulb/halogen style vaporizer that worked well. I don't think they respond to temp change well and you have to use a very particular breathing style for half way decent vapes.

I was never quite satisfied with my Vaporlight (halogen bulb), but then it was my first whip vape and I never really got back into it after I bought the SSV. But you may be right. Have you used the Aromed? It's the best halogen heater model IMO, and I don't recall any complaints about it in this area. Of course, unlike some other halogen heat source models, it has an excellent electronic controller.

 

[stonemonkey55]

My apologies for TUI in my last post....typing while under the influence... I have never been so embarrassed by my poor grammar

Have you used the Aromed? It's the best halogen heater model IMO, and I don't recall any complaints about it in this area. Of course, unlike some other halogen heat source models, it has an excellent electronic controller.

Actually I have had the pleasure of using the aromed before. Actually use it for vaping concentrates and found that it works really well at the highest setting. For vaping herb, I thought that the APE VAPE performed about as well as the Aromed, which is a step up from the Volatizer. I've actually experimented with using halogen bulbs myself when creating a proto vape but found that stainless steel and ceramic to be more responsive myself. I really like the idea since it is so cheap to replace the bulbs but it will take someone far smarter than me to crack the code.

 

[g124v17y]

OK so we've probably all seen the Volatizer VM3. If you don't remember, its the vape that looks like a more sophisticated iolite. Oh, and price-wise it runs in the same neighborhood as the volcano. I don't know anyone who has actually had the balls to spend that kind of money on a portable, but please let me know the quality of it if you have! I mean potentially speaking, if the iolite could produce the same quality vapor as my other 5 vapes, I would only use the iolite, but it doesn't, so I don't. Some things it features that the iolite doesn't are, adjustable temperature control, retractable mouthpeice, and digital display. Oh, and no butane. Sounds nice, but again, its portable, and IME, portables just don't compare to desktops.
http://www.vapenow.com/Volatizer-VM3-Portable-Vaporizer-p-86/


The VM2 however, is what I am REALLY intereseted in. I have a Vriptech Heat Wand and have long called it the best vapor quality vaporizer on the market. Besides the fact that it is completely glass and provides optimal taste, you are able to tweak how much material you use, at what temperature, and filter it through water, and you can adjust every aspect of this, PER HIT! I thought, "what more could i ask for?" until i dropped it on the hard wood floor and it shattered. Its defintely worth it to by a replacement glass peice, but i'd rather it not be so fragile, than again if you are using a water pipe, chances are the pipe itself is very fragile regardless of the vape you use. The VHW is an EXPERT level vape, because of its fragility.
http://www.vriptech.com/home.htm

ENTER THE VM2 BLACK BEAUTY. Also a water-pipe style vape, it is a little bigger than the VHW from what I have seen, uses a ceramic heating element, and I believe a plastic housing. This normally runs for about $200. Has anyone tried it? I'm going to order one tonight if no one has anything negative to say about it. I haven't found anything on the forums about it. This is a NEW product. Volatizer USED to make the VM1 (similar style) but this is an upgrade to it!
http://www.vapenow.com/Volatizer-VM2-Black-Beauty-Vaporizer-p-362/

 

[Pappy]

ENTER THE VM2 BLACK BEAUTY. Also a water-pipe style vape, it is a little bigger than the VHW from what I have seen, uses a ceramic heating element, and I believe a plastic housing. This normally runs for about $200. Has anyone tried it? I'm going to order one tonight if no one has anything negative to say about it. I haven't found anything on the forums about it. This is a NEW product. Volatizer USED to make the VM1 (similar style) but this is an upgrade to it!
http://www.vapenow.com/Volatizer-VM2-Bl zer-p-362/

I may be able to save you a few pennies...
http://www.vapornation.com/store/Other-Vaporizers/Volatizer-VM2-Vaporizer.html?cPath=134

 

[g124v17y]

Sweet! thanks Pappy!

 

[g124v17y]

ok so i ordered one... and i read this thread and may i say I AM DISGUSTED! j/k it happens lol but seriously people... try to remember we are all stoners. try to calm down.

I ordered the VM2. For $100 why not. I'll write a review as soon as i get it




mod note: In case you missed it, the previous posts are a year old. Scolding other members, past or present, is neither on topic nor appropriate for member posting.

 

[g124v17y]

hiiiiiiilooooowwwww...... just got the VM2 black beauty and tried it... what i dont like is that it is pretty hard to adapt glass to it, and would be easier to buy their piece... but i did it anywayyyy lol sUUper vaked... damn... shits nice... dont really know what to say about it right now... umm... it tastes good, but not as good as the VHW looks like thats still the winner on taste.... but this still tastes great, heats up fast, is completely regulated by the user, and works well in water pipes... i'll post pics and maybe a vid of me using it... lemme know if you have any questions! for $100 I definitely reccomend it! came with a free grinder, and bag of Lotus Leaf too!