Discontinued VRIPtech Heating Wand

organic weed

organic weed

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Hello Folks... Still in the mastering phase with my Vrip..
Can somebody answer this?

1. Why during some hits I don't get any vapor at all while other hits are crazy thick? It depends on what? What am I doing wrong? I use the Vrip percolator and run it glass on glass, no silicone valve

2. How low can I go with the perc and keep the Vrip still functional? I'm micro dosing now, usually 0.05 and never above 0.1...
 
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organic weed

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Ok still in my steep learning curve... A couple of days ago I tried fir the first time to micro dose with the Vrip... 0.05 gr... I usually micro dose with the Mighty but since I consider the Vrip a superior quality vape, I decided to give it a try... Well, I put it at 80% and since I wasn't getting as much thick clouds as with the Mighty, I decided to turn it to 100%... Big mistake. I just did 2/3 hits and the grass got really brown but the worst part is that it really burnt the left part of my throat... After 3 days I still feel a little pain while swollowing ---> forced T-break for at least 10 days I guess.

Can anybody explain me what the heck happened? Was really the heat or something else? I used it with the Vrip perc filled with warm water, just a bit above room temperature, far away from steamy...

@stickstones and @lazylathe you seems to be in the pro category here with the Vrip, maybe you can help me understand better what happened and how I can micro with the Vrip?
 
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Harmoniousliving

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organic weed said:
Ok still in my steep learning curve... A couple of days ago I tried fir the first time to micro dose with the Vrip... 0.05 gr... I usually micro dose with the Mighty but since I consider the Vrip a superior quality vape, I decided to give it a try... Well, I put it at 80% and since I wasn't getting as much thick clouds as with the Mighty, I decided to turn it to 100%... Big mistake. I just did 2/3 hits and the grass got really brown but the worst part is that it really burnt the left part of my throat... After 3 days I still feel a little pain while swollowing ---> forced T-break for at least 10 days I guess.

Can anybody explain me what the heck happened? Was really the heat or something else? I used it with the Vrip perc filled with warm water, just a bit above room temperature, far away from steamy...

@stickstones and @lazylathe you seems to be in the pro category here with the Vrip, maybe you can help me understand better what happened and how I can micro with the Vrip?
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No combustion though ?
 
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PPN

PPN

Volute of Vapor
As Stickstone noticed the Vrip is better for larger load, the bowl is designed to be filled a lot (I weight 0.25 for my average load!) although I found a combustion bowl which fit the wand (there is a pic one page before), it helps to put the load closer of the wand, I load my flowers in a Vapocane screen and place it in the bowl (load is as tiny as you want, 0.05 at max), I get 2-3 fat clouds from this setup without stirring at all. But I prefer the large Vrip bowl cause a large load give a more intense taste.
 
ShadowVape

ShadowVape

Vrip CSR
Manufacturer
Thanks everybody for contributing and holding it down over the holidaze all the QA feedback is spot on! The quality of the seal between the heat wand and intake interface is critical to maintaining consistent heat (the most common problem when going glass on glass --- the angle changes just a enough) as is the rate of your pull because the faster the pull the lower the apparent temp and the slower the pull the higher the apparent temp; also as Nebu pointed out you can finesse the temp by simply cracking the seal at this interface and mixing in some ambient air mid extraction/inhalation. I recommend the 4.2 tip seal at least be tried so one can compare performance and decide what's best for them.

The Vrip is definitely designed for large full spectrum vapor "rips," that said there are ways to make smaller rips possible. We used to make a reducer ring out of glass that could be dropped into the legacy bowls so you could then pack smaller bowls and focus the convective flow through the smaller pack. This also worked well for focusing the heat on concentrates packed on top of the ring and a smaller pack of flowers or cotton or hemp fiber for it to soak into. If there was demand we could make this for the 4.2 bowls, but you can always just pack it firm and shallow and run a slightly higher temp and/or milk it up slower.

We did develop a nail it just hasn't made it into production because the best way we determined to do it requires some special tooling that we just did not get to before the holiday rush started. It's on the bench to do list though and will get done for those that like reverse dab melties! Until then simply pack the bowl with some hemp fiber or cotton or some flower material and put the concentrate on top --- it really does work phenomenally well! Just don't crack the seal keep the clean heat on!
 
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PPN

Volute of Vapor
This is a massive vaporization tool!

My e-nail see less and less use since I get the wand, don't misunderstand me, I vape flowers 98% of the time but it is so powerfull he lead me high, high, so high I doesn't feel the need to power on my e-nail.

The vast and large and deep bowl offer larger load I never done, 0.5g in 1 bowl! Massive terpènes hits at 75% and crazy clouds at 85%, I stir every 2 hits. i can do that with the HA but I can't totally control the amount of vapor since the heat soak, with the Vrip it's nice i can stop and clear when hit is the desired size, I think this is the tiny difference with total convection and a bit of conduction.

Lazylathe's mark (around 75-80%) is the better compromise between smooth/taste/clouds, but i like to go a bit higher for thicker clouds (sometimes).

It is a keeper, sure!
 
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Harmoniousliving

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Ordering this bad boy tonight or tomorrow. I really only need the basics, I have a 14 mm lsv WPA I heard that works as a bowl ?and I saw on their pageseveral items relating to balloons. Called Vallons on their site. What's that about ?
 
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PPN

Volute of Vapor
Here my favourite setup to use with the wand, I use a sort of Infuser between the bowl and the WT, I good setup to take massive rips, fill the can and clear, any of my smoker friends can use it cause they stop to draw while it's time to draw faster and clear....Poor combustioner lungs! (although even me must to be prepared before to hit that!)
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Sorry for the background.......:science:
 
ShadowVape

ShadowVape

Vrip CSR
Manufacturer
Organic please tell us your throat is feeling better after the heat overshoot and you've dialed in to a lower temp setting and the Vrip kit in general. One of the cool things about using all clear glass is you can watch the herbs get heated and literally see the browning and the back drafting and even looking straight down at the tube you can see the vapor milk up which will give you a real time idea of how the apparant thermal curve is flowing. Try not to overshoot skim milk blue and if it's going that way crack the seal at the wand to intake interface is the trick then adjust the temp dial for the next round.

We love to see people dialing the Vrip tools into their own ritual not necessarily using the kit the same way we do. For the modular flexibility we get a lot positive feedback.

Holy shit that is the way back way back machine Nebu what happened to that instruction set? That back ground and floating assembly image where progressive for the day heh?

We still have the Valloon kits and spare parts, in fact, we even have them in taper jointed fittings now to work with our current VWT and most industry water pipes or bubblers. They are in the legacy and replacement parts catalogue. We don't sell a ton of them, but to those that are in the knowing and with the need the vapor keg with a glass valve as we call it has an enduring legacy! If it's going to be a high flow vapor bar with some numbers moving through the Valloon is a sweet way to keep the heads stoked while they wait for their turn with the wand.
 
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biohacker

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Hey Mark, just curious how close you are to your new gong tip design? Is this something that we can hope for this year?
 
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PPN

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Hi, I tried to put a classic glass nail in the VCB, I found one tall enough to be close of the heater.

But it doesn't work, concentrates melt but produce a very, very thin vapor....so go back to the Minivap concentrates pad which is very nice cause cup shape helps to keep melted concentrates centered.
 
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biohacker

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Hey Mark, just curious how close you are to your new VripNail design? Is this something that we can hope for this year?

:rofl:
 
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ShadowVape

ShadowVape

Vrip CSR
Manufacturer
Harmonious the 2.0 is a different heater and housing plug material; both improved going to the 3.0 so I'd definitely stick to the 3.0 for the more durable element even though the diferent housing plug material (higher temp) might never matter in your daily usage. I didn't read all the way back so maybe I missed the full story, but I'm surprised there even would be a 2.0 around so maybe you're looking at an early 3.0 that had the right element with the original housing plug material (which is actually fine as long as you're not a high temp max it out in a stand all the time kind of user).

Biohacker good questions!!! We haven't finalized the new heater cover design, but are a few prototypes closer. I'm hell bent on making it a two piece cover and trying to get rid of the skirt with retaining screw so ended up making it a much more complicated task than it started. The results will be worth it though if we can pull it off at a reasonable cost (anything can be done just a matter of cost) so we're putting the time into developing the tooling and process, but have it paused to first get the VripNail into production as we have finalized it's design and our email is blowing up daily with people asking for it! We have to size to a very precision and not off-the-shelf glass tubing size for the "bowl" part of the nail so the vapor will condense nicely and this has turned out to be a bit tougher to do in production than anticipated, but now that we're caught up from the holiday rush we'll be back at it. We need one more tool and a matching jig and we should be melting and bubbling any concentrate on it which which the VripNail holds right below the heat of the wand sitting essentially on the bowl in the intake of the VCB --- so much closer to the heat than the way our VCB bowls work with flowers/packed bowls. You remove the screen, put the intake on and drop the loaded nail in, put the wand to it and milk it up reverse dab style. It will take a couple primers to get it thick, but you're not waisting anything to pyrollisis and the flavor density potential is nuts.

Yeah PPN you've hit on the trick or treat of the situation…the concentrate has to be close enough to the heat and the heat has to be pulled through slow enough so that the surface the concentrate is held on and the concentrate itself are simultanously heated fast enough and the vapor flow has to be choked off enough for it to condense and not just skim through. I played with a few of the common nail designs and the VHW with and without the VCB for months while sorting the best approach for the VripNail insert. I got plenty of "air sessions" where I'd taste and eventually feel the vapor, but could never get it to condense the way I wanted. This is why to make it work the way we want we have to size the nail bowl super precision leaving just a very small crack all the way around for the convective heat flow to be sucked through the chamber heating both the nail bowl itself and the oil in it and restricting the flow enough that the vapor has time to condense. Also, the nail bowl is solid bottom so the oil can't run down a stem it just stays there and bubbles away --- crazy clean you can melt it down to nothing if you just keep hitting hit. I'll post more soon on this vaporware soap opera in the mean time melt the concentrates into flower or hemp fiber filters just packed in the bowl as usual and you'll get crazy flavor and even easier clean up than a nail! The nail is fun to load and melt off of though it's definitely grown on me and I've always been more of a flower head!
 
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thevapedcrusader

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Wooooot! Back in flavour country! Been using the noisy, costly heatgun forever it seems. My awesome girlfriend got me a new wand as an early birthday present. Sooo tasty..soooo potent! Thanks again Mark for a mint product....gonna have to get a spare now! Stay safe y'all
 
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ShadowVape

ShadowVape

Vrip CSR
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The World would be such a better place if everyone had such a rad girlfriend! You're a lucky man vapedcrusader! Stoked to have you dialed back in let us know if anything else we can help you with way out in the Antarctic region of Flavor Country. Hey at least you don't have to go far for ice!

Big meeting with the specialist attorney this am regarding expanding our VRIP R&D gardens in the Santa Cruz Mnts --- think I'm going to keep it CBD dom with some Pineapple Tsunami 2.4:1 until hopefully some celebratory lunch vapes justified. Things are changing in CA….hopefully for the better.

Wish us luck family!
 
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