nano-macro
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Do you have schematics or adjustment instructions and potentiometer variable values? My pop is an electronics specialist, so maybe he could get it dialed in even better
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Do you have schematics or adjustment instructions and potentiometer variable values? My pop is an electronics specialist, so maybe he could get it dialed in even better
Khantagious
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I don't know how much it would actually help to know the actual potentiometer value in ohms, because as Shadow said, it 's all about the interaction between the temperature of the wand (which *is* a function of the resistance of the circuit) and the way that you are holding it (which *can't* really be measured quantitatively). It's just a feel thing, it's about getting the muscle memory of your hands dialed in more than the potentiometer itself. Practice makes perfect, and fortunately it is the type of practice that is a pleasure to do!
nano-macro
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My pop and I just like technical details to understand what is being adjusted and how it relates to performance and draw rate, etc.
stickstones
Vapor concierge
I'm stoked at how fast I can get in and out of a session with the vhw. I've got some second tier herbs that require two or three bowls to get there with most vapes, but the vhw bowl is big enough I can pack whatever amount I want in there and do it all in one bowl. Start to finish last night was a monster session that didn't take more than seven minutes. Every time I use this vape I love it!
Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving! Good questions nano-macro we've had a very difficult time getting technical details from the heat tool manufacturer (remember we basically retooled an existing tool with a different element and modified board components/settings which wasn't their original design or intended use). So we basically just have to test ourselves (we know it works, but are still doing a lot of testing...wand warming up now for some KandyLand I'm about to grind MOF) and like Khantagious said there are so many variables beyond the actual potentiometer measurements such as pull rate and frequencies, density of bowl pack, moisture content of herbs, ambient temp (the colder the ambient temp the more heat you need), user preference for vapor or hybrid vapor/smoke qualities, etc that what really matters is one....maybe two "human sensor measurements" IMHO.
Namely the flavor/body qualities of the vape (VRIP if proper) taken and the load carcass/ABV color as an approximate and relative indicator ---- if it's over browned and the vape was smokier than you like you know to turn it down a tad and/or pull a bit faster; if it was just yellowed and barely dried with whispy vapor that never condensed up as thick as wanted you know to milk it slower and/or turn it up a tad. Dead center perfect VRIPS are relative to your preferences and will come with just a few practice rounds usually, but really can be achieved in more than one way is the key understanding. This is.one of the really cool things about a modular "tools" approach. Some users like to use the stand or a mug which adds yet another variable by holding heat in to the inverted mug so that when you pull it out there is extra heat (qty dependent upon how long it's been in there) to get it going faster and then the thermal curve fades back to where you have the potentiometer set. Simple analogue control relying on the Human Sensor feedback loop was the idea with the VHW....all that thermal mass in that hunk of glass that is the cover really stabilizes and holds the heat well so you've just got to figure out where you want to set the potentiometer relative to your ritualistic preferences. Most users run the potentiometer between 80% (seal it - pause, milk it up to get it going keeping the wand tip sealed in the upper intake) to 100% (pull faster with not much if any milk-up and cracking the seal between wand and upper intake during breath pauses so as not to burn) heat settings. It's your ritual we just provide the tools that give you the options!
Anyone having any difficulty dialing in or who just has questions looking for visual answers is invited to hit us up to schedule a Skype session where we'll walk you through some VRIPs...we can't grind and share our flowers with you (we would if we could), but we can show you the techniques we like to use and from there you should be able to figure out your own preferences for how to best pledge allegiance to your Flavor Country.
Love it Stickstones thanks for the session time context; we get a lot of inquiries from potential customers worried about how long a VRIP session is going to take relative to other systems out there. If you plug the wand in so it's preheating while you fill the water tool with water and ice and grind the flowers, by the time the bowl is packed and you're ready to go so is the wand. This simple strategic process really negates the drawback of the heat up time, and the size of the extractions and deliveries possible negate the need for another vape for hours in most instances. Go big, go aromatic and make every session a special occasion session!
Namely the flavor/body qualities of the vape (VRIP if proper) taken and the load carcass/ABV color as an approximate and relative indicator ---- if it's over browned and the vape was smokier than you like you know to turn it down a tad and/or pull a bit faster; if it was just yellowed and barely dried with whispy vapor that never condensed up as thick as wanted you know to milk it slower and/or turn it up a tad. Dead center perfect VRIPS are relative to your preferences and will come with just a few practice rounds usually, but really can be achieved in more than one way is the key understanding. This is.one of the really cool things about a modular "tools" approach. Some users like to use the stand or a mug which adds yet another variable by holding heat in to the inverted mug so that when you pull it out there is extra heat (qty dependent upon how long it's been in there) to get it going faster and then the thermal curve fades back to where you have the potentiometer set. Simple analogue control relying on the Human Sensor feedback loop was the idea with the VHW....all that thermal mass in that hunk of glass that is the cover really stabilizes and holds the heat well so you've just got to figure out where you want to set the potentiometer relative to your ritualistic preferences. Most users run the potentiometer between 80% (seal it - pause, milk it up to get it going keeping the wand tip sealed in the upper intake) to 100% (pull faster with not much if any milk-up and cracking the seal between wand and upper intake during breath pauses so as not to burn) heat settings. It's your ritual we just provide the tools that give you the options!
Anyone having any difficulty dialing in or who just has questions looking for visual answers is invited to hit us up to schedule a Skype session where we'll walk you through some VRIPs...we can't grind and share our flowers with you (we would if we could), but we can show you the techniques we like to use and from there you should be able to figure out your own preferences for how to best pledge allegiance to your Flavor Country.
Love it Stickstones thanks for the session time context; we get a lot of inquiries from potential customers worried about how long a VRIP session is going to take relative to other systems out there. If you plug the wand in so it's preheating while you fill the water tool with water and ice and grind the flowers, by the time the bowl is packed and you're ready to go so is the wand. This simple strategic process really negates the drawback of the heat up time, and the size of the extractions and deliveries possible negate the need for another vape for hours in most instances. Go big, go aromatic and make every session a special occasion session!
Right on PPN just let me know if any help needed dialing in or if anything else you can email ShadowVape at info@vriptech.com or get me direct at headvripper@vriptech.com or DM here.
Warming up the wand for some high temp Tangerine Haze VRIPs to jump start my sleep deprived head! For whatever reason I've been running high temp with a faster pull lately reminiscing the old one-hit snap through bong rip days I guess. This morning I'm going to get "Snapt" into Flavor Country....
Warming up the wand for some high temp Tangerine Haze VRIPs to jump start my sleep deprived head! For whatever reason I've been running high temp with a faster pull lately reminiscing the old one-hit snap through bong rip days I guess. This morning I'm going to get "Snapt" into Flavor Country....
organic weed
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@ShadowVape The Vrip rips!!!! Awesome quality. I just don't understand yet how much water to put in the bowl? It has 2 tanks. A larger and a smaller one. How much H2O shall I put in them?
Im sure u have addressed this question before but I think 118 pages is a little bit too much...
Im sure u have addressed this question before but I think 118 pages is a little bit too much...
Harmoniousliving
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Came across this vape and now I want one lol.....
Does small amounts .1 or less work well in the vrip? I love flavor so that's important to me but i also need thick clouds for fast medication. Possible with this ?got my eyes on this and the vap.3.
Oh and who should I order this vape from ?I'd like it to get here ASAP ,before Christmas but would also like to get the best deal
Does small amounts .1 or less work well in the vrip? I love flavor so that's important to me but i also need thick clouds for fast medication. Possible with this ?got my eyes on this and the vap.3.
Oh and who should I order this vape from ?I'd like it to get here ASAP ,before Christmas but would also like to get the best deal
lazylathe
Almost there...
Not really as is...
You need a bed of something for it to rest on and soak into.
Cotton, hemp fiber, mesh oil pad etc
@PPN
I think you are talking about this:
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/vriptech-heat-wand.282/page-106#post-717200
That post is from January 2015 and there has been no more mention of this.
@ShadowVape Any updates on this?
You need a bed of something for it to rest on and soak into.
Cotton, hemp fiber, mesh oil pad etc
@PPN
I think you are talking about this:
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/vriptech-heat-wand.282/page-106#post-717200
That post is from January 2015 and there has been no more mention of this.
@ShadowVape Any updates on this?
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Harmoniousliving
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And what about that all glass portable you also mentioned
lazylathe
Almost there...
jim-bob
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You realize Christmas is on Friday, right? Vriptech is a pretty small operation and I'd recommend buying direct from them, but your timeline might be a little optimistic.
PPN
Volute of Vapor
Hi, Iget my Vrip from Lazylathe, it arrived in perfect condition, very well packaged and fast shipping!
I was unable to gave it a try before the end of the day...I didn't get a lot of time for some testing before to quit my office where my Vrip will sit next of my nano. So I broked by hands a lavender bud (a bit too moist cause rain) and filled the bowl, the wand was heated to Lazylathe's spot (75-80%) and it gave me blueish vapor from the first hit, not really thick but very potent and tasty, after some hits abv comes out on the yellow side. i have enough time for a second session, I bumped t° at 90% and got thicker hits!
More testing will be done but I can feel I will love this vape even if my only complain is I was coughing a lot (in this aspect it reminds me the MV)...I understand better the ice here...
I was unable to gave it a try before the end of the day...I didn't get a lot of time for some testing before to quit my office where my Vrip will sit next of my nano. So I broked by hands a lavender bud (a bit too moist cause rain) and filled the bowl, the wand was heated to Lazylathe's spot (75-80%) and it gave me blueish vapor from the first hit, not really thick but very potent and tasty, after some hits abv comes out on the yellow side. i have enough time for a second session, I bumped t° at 90% and got thicker hits!
More testing will be done but I can feel I will love this vape even if my only complain is I was coughing a lot (in this aspect it reminds me the MV)...I understand better the ice here...
Harmoniousliving
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Still looking at this vape. ...this and the vap3 would be the ultimate flavor town vape combo
Oh if I had an extra 1k I would go to town ....
Oh if I had an extra 1k I would go to town ....
PPN
Volute of Vapor
This morning I "treated myself" (I like this Stickstone expression!) with my new wand!
Low temp, high temp, I tested it a lot. I tried a glass bowl which comes with one of my china bubbler, the wand fit it perfectly, I prefer it to the Vrip bowl cause the wand is closer of the load and conic shape help to avoid to stir too much. With this setup I can use very, very small load and I get a full extracted abv in 3-4 hits...it's nice cause i'm a bit lazy and prefers to don't stay too long time with the wand in my hands, a quick, tasty and powerfull session is perfect for me.
This setup is nice for concentrates, I tried a bit of kief on a bed of flowers..delicious!...and a bit of live resin on my MV liquid pad....good taste at the beginning and clouds after (although shatter/wax convection dab never taste the same than my e-nail, it's less floral..but kief/hasch taste good using convection!)
still need a lot of test but I'm very happy about this vape, definitly a game changer!
Low temp, high temp, I tested it a lot. I tried a glass bowl which comes with one of my china bubbler, the wand fit it perfectly, I prefer it to the Vrip bowl cause the wand is closer of the load and conic shape help to avoid to stir too much. With this setup I can use very, very small load and I get a full extracted abv in 3-4 hits...it's nice cause i'm a bit lazy and prefers to don't stay too long time with the wand in my hands, a quick, tasty and powerfull session is perfect for me.
This setup is nice for concentrates, I tried a bit of kief on a bed of flowers..delicious!...and a bit of live resin on my MV liquid pad....good taste at the beginning and clouds after (although shatter/wax convection dab never taste the same than my e-nail, it's less floral..but kief/hasch taste good using convection!)
still need a lot of test but I'm very happy about this vape, definitly a game changer!
PPN
Volute of Vapor
I go back with the Vrip bowl for flowers, I think a larger load works better about taste and I would to stay all glass, I only put a ss screen in the 18mm male connector to prevent small bits of abv fall in my water tools...
For the same reason I prefer to use scissors grind and it helps for better flavor, bigger amount means the last hits are not really tasty...but in rewards they are cloudies!
My replacement bowl is a combustion bowl, it is nice for smaller loads or concentrates, here a (bad) pic:
Still need to try a full blast session.....and still need to take some photography lessons! (and someting else than my phone...).
The Vrip replace my Cloud+ for the better imo, it milks my WT as well with a superb taste!
ps: How are sure your wand is enough hot (time, blink, colour, heat feeling or test puff)?
For the same reason I prefer to use scissors grind and it helps for better flavor, bigger amount means the last hits are not really tasty...but in rewards they are cloudies!
My replacement bowl is a combustion bowl, it is nice for smaller loads or concentrates, here a (bad) pic:
Still need to try a full blast session.....and still need to take some photography lessons! (and someting else than my phone...).
The Vrip replace my Cloud+ for the better imo, it milks my WT as well with a superb taste!
ps: How are sure your wand is enough hot (time, blink, colour, heat feeling or test puff)?
Nebu
Post-Apocalyptic Renaissance Man
@ my vapor bar I've got the routine so dialed in I just know by time (spent grinding and loading one bowl, VHW in it's glass stand btw). That being said, so many things can alter heat-up times in varied environs; ambient temps, different outlet voltage (mine is typically @ 128V), etc.,. My heat check is by holding the VHW horizontally about an inch from/under my nose & lips. I can tell by the radiant heat when it's ready. Maintaining the ideal temp through a longer, multi-user session is another art (lol!), yet also not that difficult. I use tactile check on the glass-stand to determine if it is heat saturated, which allows further dialing-back of the VHW temp. It's an iterative process and I get some satisfaction out of obtaining that temp-delivery (relative) equilibrium. Being able to see the entire vapor path and load in real-time gives all the feedback one needs and, if you find you're off to the hot side, it is immediately remediable by breaking the VHW to VCB seal (thus allowing a mix of ambient, non-heated air into the intake flow). If one is on the too cool side I like to park it and wait for more heat accumulation but a slower, prolonged draw is sometimes all that is necessary to achieve optimum vapor when not too low of the mark.
Also - use an ash-catcher or hemp-filter stage in line (post-bowl, pre-water tool, of course) if you want to lose the metal screen for a glass one and not clog up your bubbler's diffusion works.
Sláinte!
PPN
Volute of Vapor
Still in honeymoon phase my the Vrip! I thought it will be an occasionnal vape but I can't resist to use it everydays.
It's tasty at hell, thick clouds also...I use a large load (0.15-0.25), scissor grind, set it at 80-85% (a bit more than lazylathe's mark) and get a long, long session (lot of hits, I didn't count them but the cheese i vaped this morning is very dense and powerfull!) thats the way it shines for me!
Abv comes out dark brown with some little stir betwwen hits, i don't crush it to keep the good taste to the last hit (as my water tools cleaner).
It's definitly the better vaporizer i never tried about vapor quality, it's really a pleasure to use, even one of my combuster friend was stocked.
Can't understand why this vape is so underated after a so long time on the market and so impressive performances, it blows the Cloud out the water imho!!
It's tasty at hell, thick clouds also...I use a large load (0.15-0.25), scissor grind, set it at 80-85% (a bit more than lazylathe's mark) and get a long, long session (lot of hits, I didn't count them but the cheese i vaped this morning is very dense and powerfull!) thats the way it shines for me!
Abv comes out dark brown with some little stir betwwen hits, i don't crush it to keep the good taste to the last hit (as my water tools cleaner).
It's definitly the better vaporizer i never tried about vapor quality, it's really a pleasure to use, even one of my combuster friend was stocked.
Can't understand why this vape is so underated after a so long time on the market and so impressive performances, it blows the Cloud out the water imho!!
Harmoniousliving
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stickstones
Vapor concierge
I can bigger clouds than with the Evo if I want due to the VHW's bigger bowl holding more.
PPN
Volute of Vapor
I only used the Cloud+ extensively and even if it's a cloud maker it is far away the Vrip about taste.
And yes the big bowl is a big plus for an intense flavor and large clouds.