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mplx

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Buy a used pa, they are worth it
Good idea. But problem is that i have to get it shipped to Holland. That`s expensive international shipping + Customs tax. Buying a new one from a Dutch webshop would get me (a new) one for the same price.

Does a PA also give more power or only limitless power? Because i have 4 batteries now and i never used more than 1,5 battery a day. If it`s just limitless power maybe i should use the money to buy a dedicated portable vape for concentrates and use the FB for the green.
 
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mplx

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I will consider a PA, also i was looking around for a hash dedicated portable, that way i would keep the LB clean for greens. Tonight i will try again with a 100% full battery and see what the first short inhale does.
 
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poonman

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Thanks a lot :tup:just one more question :hmm:
Do I end up paying any duty , if I get it shipped to toronto

+ 1 for the PA

I'd never had to pay any Custom Duties when I did biz. with MF or PIU .
In fact , Randy at PIU didn't even charged me taxes . Which you know can add up to 13 % here in Canada .:ugh:

I agree with Not short-changing the inventors/mfg .
But the Government , I've Donated enough to their Cause ...
 

abhishek

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+ 1 for the PA

I'd never had to pay any Custom Duties when I did biz. with MF or PIU .
In fact , Randy at PIU didn't even charged me taxes . Which you know can add up to 13 % here in Canada .:ugh:

I agree with Not short-changing the inventors/mfg .
But the Government , I've Donated enough to their Cause ...

I will contact Puffitup today itself, I usually buy from Planetvape, I will write to em too for a price match..
Thanks for all the info, u will soon find me bothering u guys for all the tips and tricks , mentioned in almost 1000 pages here..thanks once again and I just love this community
 

davesmith

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Glass Blower
@mplx you should be fine with batteries, a pa isn't necessary just useful. Your hash shouldn't really hav any moisture left in it, you might have to try spreading it thinner. Also I'd wait to see a thick vapour in the trench to inhale. I literally don't release the battery when vaping hash.

@OF I don't know about over there but in the uk RRP is only that, recommended. It's against the law to price fix and if someone wants to play loss leader with a product that's entirely up to them. In reality a lot of companies do plead with retailers to price fix but there's usually someone willing to take a little hit and drop prices. Not that I disagree with your sentiment just pointing out my experience with the retail industry.

Peace

E2a the hammer does a great job with hash as will the solo. So consider them for a hash portable maybe
 

mplx

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For hash I would let it heat longer before I take a draw
Thanks, this worked:tup:

@mplx you should be fine with batteries, a pa isn't necessary just useful. Your hash shouldn't really hav any moisture left in it, you might have to try spreading it thinner. Also I'd wait to see a thick vapour in the trench to inhale. I literally don't release the battery when vaping hash.

E2a the hammer does a great job with hash as will the solo. So consider them for a hash portable maybe

Hi Dave, you are right, i noticed yesterday. I made some kind of small hash-sausage to cover the tray. Then i waited till vape was produced. Now i see why a PA is so useful. With 4 batteries around it`s no problem, but it takes a full battery to vape out one load of hash:lol:. I just didn`t wait long enough the first time to produce enough vape. Good thing is that it seems impossible to burn the hash. It only gets hotter and then it forms small bubbles. When the chamber is full of vape i take an inhale and yes then it works. Very good :o. Even by exhaling afther >20 seconds you can see the vape:tup:

Maybe i`ll buy a PA later. For now, 4 batteries work fine
 
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OF

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@OF I don't know about over there but in the uk RRP is only that, recommended. It's against the law to price fix and if someone wants to play loss leader with a product that's entirely up to them. In reality a lot of companies do plead with retailers to price fix but there's usually someone willing to take a little hit and drop prices.

Thanks for the details. Here we have MSRP (Manufacturers Recommended [sorry, make that Suggested...] Retail Price), similar I think? A suggestion. There's also 'List Price' for autos and stuff nobody expects to actually pay. "Fair Trade" is a contractual agreement, it goes with the deal. The contract can be broken on that basis so lots of the time they try to hide their dishonesty behind fake names on EBay and so on. In the end, I think, it hurts honest folks (both customers and dealers) for personal profit. Not like stolen goods, but on that path?

A while back we had a bunch of cheap LBs on EBay with their serial numbers sanded off, wanna guess why?

Thanks again for the perspective, I prefer this system I think, despite the flaws.

OF
 
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Vitolo

Vaporist
Since this is a democracy, the company gets to make the rules for the handling of their goods!
It is not federal law, carved in granite, but rather a "house rule"
There are no legal sanctions....
a simple "If we learn that you undercut any other of our distributors, we will never do business with you again."
 

OF

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There are no legal sanctions....
a simple "If we learn that you undercut any other of our distributors, we will never do business with you again."

Interesting. It's not contractual? My experience with "Fair Trade Agreements" sure was. Violation of one of them specifically named 'full retail costs' to us (the maker). We got a warranty repair sent in with a copy of the invoice from an owner in Florida. Under the agreed to price. The OM (Old Man, company owner) was looking for a way to 'break the lease' (he had another dealer prospect in the area), he used it as the excuse to cancel the contract and wrote a more profitable one with the original guy's competitor. He then sued (successfully) for the full sale price (already had the money from the dealer sale) and got the judge to grant him normal retail (rather than dealer cost) for the consignment gear he couldn't account for. That guy was pissed, cost him something like $120K IIRC, word got around and many of the other dealers (who were being honest) thanked the OM. And IMO rightly so (even if the did it for the bucks). At the very least, as you suggest, it releases the maker from his obligations to sell more to that dealer.

It's not a matter of law AFAIK, but a contractual agreement, with full recourse through Tort Law in at least some cases. I've seen it happen from a safe distance, it was kinda ugly up close I bet.

It's a practice that's been around for a long time and I bet worked better before EBay and PayPal?
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fair-trade agreement

OF
 
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sethhobrin

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Guys I have two new launchboxes. A cherry and a walnut. They are only a few weeks old. For some reason I cannot get the walnut one to work well. The cherry one rips awesome after I got over the learning curve. The walnut one seems to either just char the material or not produce any vapor and is prone to combusting. I can't figure out whats wrong. Same batteries and material.

Any ideas? I am using them naked without any accessories or draw tubes.
 
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sethhobrin

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if there is I cannot see one. it looks fairly new aside from some discoloration where some combustion has occured.
 
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abhishek

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Just ordered my launch box and a wooden stem from PV..so bad I couldn't get a discount on my box...
But PV Still remains my favorite site,,I hope they send 2 packs of munchies this time..
Any tips for a new member of this thread

.can I load my box and carry it in my pocket, I go for a jog in evenings and wanna carry my box in a pouch..will it be all good
 
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KidFated.

Unknown Member
I'd keep a rubberband around it but that should be fine. I dirtbike with mine in a bag or pocket and it's never spilled but i keep a rubber band around it. :tup:

Is this your first launch box?
 
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abhishek

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I'd keep a rubberband around it but that should be fine. I dirtbike with mine in a bag or pocket and it's never spilled but i keep a rubber band around it. :tup:

Is this your first launch box?

Yup u can say that ..I used to have another one and I spoilt it in within weeks..I got drunk and spilled some coke on it and then the tray came out(place where u put herb or trench) it was like a screen
 
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KidFated.

Unknown Member
Did you warranty it?

I once told myself the only good thing that can from getting drunk, is fishing. Beyond that, bad experiences hahahah
 
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MileHighLife

Blower of glass, grower of grass
Nope I can't ..I am in India..and I import my Vapes..
So no warranty for me

Does magic flight not warranty boxes outside of the u.s.? I haven't had to warranty any of my magic flight gear yet but my understanding is that you only provide pictures for magic flight and they send you a new box so you wouldn't have to deal with sending a used box through customs if that's what you're concerned about.
 

abhishek

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Does magic flight not warranty boxes outside of the u.s.? I haven't had to warranty any of my magic flight gear yet but my understanding is that you only provide pictures for magic flight and they send you a new box so you wouldn't have to deal with sending a used box through customs if that's what you're concerned about.
Wow if its true..so how does it work ..who pays the duty..has anyone outside USA Canada, availed this
 
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