OF

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does anyone know what exactly the grinder metal grater is made out of, on the finishing grinder? Alum, SS, Ti...?
One of the first two. I'd bet on aluminum.​

Naw, Aluminum makes a lousy knife, right?

I've never seen one, but I'll give you 3 to 1 on Stainless Steel. Got a magnet? Not all SS is magnetic, but I bet the plate is.

OF
 

Dynalowrider

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Re: post #23901
Well, after two (2) wall-warts, and a new Power-Adaptor, it's still pulsing with the "potentiometer" cranked all the way up. It doesn't pulse using the auto adaptor, (I use a jump-start battery that has a built-in 12vdc outlet).
I will let you know what MFLB has to say. Dynalowrider
 
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mplx

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Got my "herbal concentrate tray" for the LB today. Turns out to be two of them, i thought i bought one:lol:. Now there is one with a screened tray and one with a unscreened one. The manual says to use the unscreened one for concentrates that do not melt to / or are not - a liquid. For the screened one use concentrates that will completely melt or are liquid.

Now i tried a little of the concentrate a few days ago in a folded paper boat (
).
Works fine but the concentrate does become soft, sticky and melts a little, but not really to a liquid, more like melted ice cream and turns solid when the heat is gone.

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Made a pic to illustrate. Should i use 1)unscreened or 2)screened?:D What`s the functional difference; just easier to clean cause of the different surface?

I don`t like to just give it a a try and risk a mess and a broken LB
 

MileHighLife

Blower of glass, grower of grass
Got my "herbal concentrate tray" for the LB today. Turns out to be two of them, i thought i bought one:lol:. Now there is one with a screened tray and one with a unscreened one. The manual says to use the unscreened one for concentrates that do not melt to / or are not - a liquid. For the screened one use concentrates that will completely melt or are liquid.

Now i tried a little of the concentrate a few days ago in a folded paper boat (
).
Works fine but the concentrate does become soft, sticky and melts a little, but not really to a liquid, more like melted ice cream and turns solid when the heat is gone.

f31b58430ae62743e76929da711cdbf00265b05c.jpg


Made a pic to illustrate. Should i use 1)unscreened or 2)screened?:D What`s the functional difference; just easier to clean cause of the different surface?

I don`t like to just give it a a try and risk a mess and a broken LB

I'd use the screened tray if I were you. The unscreened tray is more for bubble or dry ice hash. The difference in the trays is functional. The screen increases the surface area that is heating the concentrate. Cleaning is identical ... just use a torch to torch them clean.
 
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Ano

FC Lover
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Made a pic to illustrate. Should i use 1)unscreened or 2)screened?:D What`s the functional difference; just easier to clean cause of the different surface?
Actually I think you should use the unscreened one.

My understanding of the different trays is that the screened tray prevents liquid from spilling out of the tray and into the box by providing a "chamber" between the bottom plate and the screen. This way the concentrate is placed on the screen, melts through it when heated, keeps heating in contact with the plate and doesn't spill because of the "ceiling" provided by the screen.

If your concentrate doesn't turn liquid (or at least as long as there is no risk of spilling when heated), the unscreened tray will probably work best, as the MFLB using being mainly conduction based, your concentrate will be in contact with more surface directly on one solid plate than on a screen riddled with tiny holes.
 
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Quetzalcoatl

DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
Actually I think you should use the unscreened one.

My understanding of the different trays is that the screened tray prevents liquid from spilling out of the tray and into the box by providing a "chamber" between the bottom plate and the screen. This way the concentrate is placed on the screen, melts through it when heated, keeps heating in contact with the plate and doesn't spill because of the "ceiling" provided by the screen.

If your concentrate doesn't turn liquid (or at least as long as there is no risk of spilling when heated), the unscreened tray will probably work best, as the MFLB using being mainly conduction based, your concentrate will be in contact with more surface directly on one solid plate than on a screen riddled with tiny holes.
This!! The screen acts as a roof and breaks the surface tension of the bubbling oils. Stuff with plant matter in it goes in the naked tray!
 

mplx

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So if i get it right; the screened surface is for oil so that the relief makes it harder to boil that fast or heavy so the oil stays in the cup and not all trough the chamber. I`ll try some of that honeysweet marroc:drool:in the unscreened tray. Thanks everyone
 

MileHighLife

Blower of glass, grower of grass
This!! The screen acts as a roof and breaks the surface tension of the bubbling oils. Stuff with plant matter in it goes in the naked tray!

Interesting that ya'lls screens in the screened trays act as a ceiling to break bubbles. The screen in my screened tray sits basically flat in the bottom of the tray (maybe assembled wrong?). My take on the screen was that it is sort of a wick to wick the concentrate out across the tray increasing the surface area heating the concentrate instead of pooling in the middle like it does when using the unscreened tray.
 

mplx

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Interesting that ya'lls screens in the screened trays act as a ceiling to break bubbles. The screen in my screened tray sits basically flat in the bottom of the tray (maybe assembled wrong?). My take on the screen was that it is sort of a wick to wick the concentrate out across the tray increasing the surface area heating the concentrate instead of pooling in the middle like it does when using the unscreened tray.
I think you have the same tray. Looks just like the other one, just not shiny, probably made from another alloy and there is a little very fine grid on the bottom to place the oil on.

I tried some marroc on the non-screened tray and it works well:tup:. But like the manual says an extended tube or waterpipe is welcome because the vape gets hotter. Lucky i already made an extension tube and it works great
 

caves

Living the vape life
Naw, Aluminum makes a lousy knife, right?

I've never seen one, but I'll give you 3 to 1 on Stainless Steel. Got a magnet? Not all SS is magnetic, but I bet the plate is.

OF
Just checked my Finishing Grinder, the plate is not magnetic. I wouldn't think the plate would have to be that beefy, considering all you're doing is mashing some dried plant matter across it. The hardest thing you'll be grinding is a stem, and if a stem is too big to fit through the holes it just sorta rolls around on top.

Whatever kind of metal it is, it does the job. :D
 

OF

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Just checked my Finishing Grinder, the plate is not magnetic. I wouldn't think the plate would have to be that beefy, considering all you're doing is mashing some dried plant matter across it.

Thanks for checking. As I said, not being magnetic proves nothing, but being so would. Funny logic, I hope you follow?

In use, the tool (plate) has to cut, it shears through the material. This places other Material Science issues on it. Consider that hay harvesters (which cut softer stuff in a less demanding way) are made of extremely hard steel (much tougher than you 'd expect here) and yet they wear away over time.

In our case a slight degradation will take is from cleanly slicing (making 'perfect' results) to shredding (no longer perfect).

As you say it works, and that's the goal.

Thanks again for checking.

OF
 

abhishek

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Any good place online to order, somewhere they selling it cheap???..looking particularly for a website which can deliver fast and hassle free to Toronto...is 119$ a good price
 
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Vitolo

Vaporist
119 is the price.
This is the price that Magic Flight has listed as the price for their authorized retailers to sell at.
Barring special deals by websites with codes on set occasions, if you see it being sold for less, you do take some risk, and there exists some chance that something "fishy" is up.
That is not to say that every $89 box out there is a fake... it is just the way Magic Flight now has things set up to avoid fraud.
 

mplx

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Little question about that trays i bought. I used the unscreened tray several times now and it works like it should but the effect is not really what i hoped for. When i vape herbs normally and i heat up the LB i actually see the vape building up and going trough the tube when i take a hit. When i do the same with a little cube of marroc on the tray it heats up, i can inhale but it tastes like air, only on the finnish i can taste the sweetness from the concentrate. The effect is very light. I used to smoke the same stuff with a little tabacco and it was able to fill a room with a very sweet smell. The effect was a heavy high. Now i tried to grind a piece to powder and filled the tray with it. It gives the same light effect as when it was a little solid cube. It dries out, gets sticky and you can press it like gum. Does it get not hot enough or what could be the problem?
 
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davesmith

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Glass Blower
Your maroc hash should come out very dark and dusty if it has been fully extracted. Something similar to charcoal depending on how full you want your extraction.

Are you using batteries or pa?

I usually fine grind or flatten some hash onto the unscreened tray and then keep the battery in until the tray is finished. I judge this by taste, as soon as it gets acrid I stop. You should definitely be seeing vapour/smoke regardless.

Hope this helps
 

OF

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119 is the price.
This is the price that Magic Flight has listed as the price for their authorized retailers to sell at.

I understand the very natural (and some might say 'healthy') desire to get a cheap price and all but I think the idea of "fair trade" is potentially a good one. As in good for us, the consumers. By protecting the dealers from cutthroat competitors (who in theory are violating the same agreement somewhere along the line) TV is working to giving all their customers 'an even break' and the same (top notch) customer support.

Our cost per box could be lower if the 'cheaters' weren't doing their thing. Instead, we're paying a bit more for ours that actually goes into some opportunist dealer's pocket. No free lunches. Only some 'me first' going on.

Again, I get the 'I only want the best price' and all but see it in somewhat broader terms perhaps? I'm big on open markets, Capitalism and all but since there was, somewhere along the line, a contract forbidding 'price cutting'. Someone went back on that agreement to make that sort of offer (if not in theory, in practice), in a way it's a bit like the black market? In the end, once again, it's the guys that follow the rules that pay (at least part) of the price.

Thanks for listening.

OF
 

GrilledGoat

New Places
So... While I have been waiting for my PnP to arrive...

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Wonderful smooth milky hits from the mflb and PA:tup:

Kindof ghetto i know..
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It works!:lol::rockon:

Uh waiting on packages.. :rolleyes:
 
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mplx

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The power adapter is desireable for use with concentrate trays... to stay at level desired for full consumption of product.
I know but i assumed that a full battery could give at least for a minute enough heat to extract the good stuff out. A power adapter would cost me ~80(!!!!! licensed by Apple or so?:mad:) euro`s.


Your maroc hash should come out very dark and dusty if it has been fully extracted. Something similar to charcoal depending on how full you want your extraction.
Are you using batteries or pa?
I usually fine grind or flatten some hash onto the unscreened tray and then keep the battery in until the tray is finished. I judge this by taste, as soon as it gets acrid I stop. You should definitely be seeing vapour/smoke regardless.
Hope this helps
I put the battery in, wait >5 seconds and inhale very slowly for maybe 20/30 seconds with the battery in. A 20 cm tube is used to cool down the vape, same tube as used for the herbs.
The hash gets dark, almost black like coal but not powdery just solid but also a little gumlike when you press it between your fingers. When i clean the tray with a solder-torch then it gets powdery and grey and falls off like dust. No problems with dried herbs at all, works great. :)
 
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