Discontinued The Firefly Vaporizer

[fernand]

@EveryDayAmnesiac Amnesiac I can't remember a worthier tip! Of COURSE. Just vape that last bowl to the metal, get all the last fraction catatonic terpenes and go sleep! Good one.

 

[EveryDayAmnesiac]

@EveryDayAmnesiac Amnesiac I can't remember a worthier tip! Of COURSE. Just vape that last bowl to the metal, get all the last fraction catatonic terpenes and go sleep! Good one.

As I've said before, I'm still surprised at how "undark" my ABV is after I've huffed and puffed my way through till it can't stands no more... but it's dark enough for sleepy sleep.

 

[Vitolo]

I too can see how the FF can grow on a user more and more.
I did like mine right out of the box, but have grown to enjoy using it more often.
I still love the smell of the back of the lid!

 

[mitchgo61]

I too can see how the FF can grow on a user more and more.
I did like mine right out of the box, but have grown to enjoy using it more often.
I still love the smell of the back of the lid!

Usually, with a device, for me, it's all about the end result. How well does it work? How well do the "goodies" get delivered?

The FF is my first vape where the journey is as much fun as the destination. I look forward to using it, not just because it delivers the goods, but because it's so much fun and tactile and personal to use.

Despite the couple of flaws it has, these guys were on to something. They set out to create a vape that bonds with the user on a personal, intuitive basis, and damned if they didn't succeed. I can only imagine what they are cooking up for future iterations.

 

[Vitolo]

The Firefly Mini?

 

[darkrom]

I might be an oddity, but I'd prefer the firefly jumbo. The only improvement I can think of right now to be made, would be battery life. I had a firefly die on me first time ever last night. Not sure how much use it had. I just threw in the other battery. It'll be interesting if even with the same battery, it is not lasting as long as the old one. My best guess is that it lost some of the charge while it was sitting waiting for the replacement to show up.

I'll know soon enough. I'll probably be putting a sticker on each battery so I can track if they perform the same. They should.

 

[Mynameismud]

I might be an oddity, but I'd prefer the firefly jumbo. The only improvement I can think of right now to be made, would be battery life. I had a firefly die on me first time ever last night. Not sure how much use it had. I just threw in the other battery. It'll be interesting if even with the same battery, it is not lasting as long as the old one. My best guess is that it lost some of the charge while it was sitting waiting for the replacement to show up.

I'll know soon enough. I'll probably be putting a sticker on each battery so I can track if they perform the same. They should.

Different scenario, but i charged my firefly unplugged it when it stopped flashing. Didnt use it at all and then tried plugging it back in and it was flashing again and took about 8 minutes to charge back up even though it should have been charhed

 

[fernand]

That's normal. The charger sees that the battery reads less than 4.22 volts, it always drops a bit off the charger, so it always tries again. The battery briefly hits say 4.23 v and that's "charged". Disconnect for 5 milliseconds and it starts charging again. I like the way the LED signals how close it is to full.

I too keep falling deeper 'n deeper in love with my FireFly.

I hope that ebay Texas Solo i ordered is well supported, the guy has 6800 transactions rated 99.6 positive. Would you guys reverse the $139.95 transaction since it hasn't shipped yet and pay $160 at puffi?

 

[Mynameismud]

Okay so ive given this replacement unit some more time. Im definitely digging it.

Not burning or even getting dark brown at all. I definitely like to grind my material instead of breaking it up by hand.

A few things that i would like would be a pass through charger so it could be used while plugged in and charging.

Also no matter how much i clean it, it just smells. Thats the only thing i still like about the cera. It cleans up much easier and doesnt smell as bad.

But the firefly is much easier to use with other people. You dont have to worry about people talking and chilling with the device allowing it to cool down and then them having to hold the button down for long times to preheat which no one could get the hang of. And i also dont burn my lips anymore

 

[WildChild]

I decided to take apart my original 'cool' unit and inspect. Disassembled the heater core and noticed my coil was touching the ceramic top plate at one side, but not the other. I carefully adjusted the angle of the heater coil so that it was in contact along the full 1\2 top perimeter. I also aligned the groove in the ceramic plate with the top groove on the ceramic housing surrounding the heater coil. Put it back together, loaded and gave it a go. Combustion after the second button press and draw. A few more tries resulted in the same. Now it was too hot! Took it apart again and slightly lowered the angle of the heater coil. Reassembled and tested it out. Holy shit...perfection. Half the button presses of previous sessions, huge clouds and even, very DARK abv. Fuck ya!

(No pictures, sorry...)

My buddy loves the replacement I sold him and I now tweaked my FF to work for me...albeit by chance partially.

I cannot recommend anyone try this as I don't want you to screw your warrantee...I risked it and things worked out.

I apologize to @Vitolo for my rude, defensive response several posts ago and to you all for my negative initial review.

NOW I can share in the joy...

 

[Shiggity]

@WildChild I am just glad you are enjoying it now and it is nice for someone else confirming coil alignment can make such a HUGE difference.

 

[WildChild]

@WildChild I am just glad you are enjoying it now and it is nice for someone else confirming coil alignment can make such a HUGE difference.

Yes! I couldn't recall who first posted their experience. Well, I have you to thank for it, @Shiggity.

Thank you for helping me turn this from a paperweight to a quality vaporizer, Brother.

 

[poonman]

Yes! I couldn't recall who first posted their experience. Well, I have you to thank for it, @Shiggity.

Thank you for helping me turn this from a paperweight to a quality vaporizer, Brother.

Well , Freeze my Canadian Ass ...
The way I see it , you got yourself a Free FF .
You should go fix your buddy's FF .
So he too can enjoy it the way it was meant to be .

 

[WildChild]

Well , Freeze my Canadian Ass ...
The way I see it , you got yourself a Free FF .
You should go fix your buddy's FF .
So he too can enjoy it the way it was meant to be .

Ha!

Yes, I did end up with a freebie and thank Vape World and FF...I did try to give it back...honest. It's quite expensive to ship to or from the Arctic. Guess it wasn't worth it to them...phenominal service, though.

The replacement unit that I sold was a bit hotter and did work. He is a flavor chaser and doesn't cook his herb to the level I do. He threatened to break my hand if I 'tweaked' his baby lol.

(For what it's worth, I did try to give it to him but he demanded to pay...he's just like that...I'm not greedy and did want to pass along my good fortune.)

But a considerate suggestion, @poonman...

 

[mitchgo61]

I cannot recommend anyone try this as I don't want you to screw your warrantee...I risked it and things worked out.

Wow! Nice work! Glad that ended up well for you. I personally would be scared shitless to try and tweak the coil. I'm sure I'd screw it up, or break it, or something. If this were my FF I'd just spend 10 bucks and send it to FF to fix, but again I am all but assured to mess this kind of thing up. It's actually surprising that such a small positional change would have such a dramatic effect, but I guess that explains the variations we are seeing reported from unit to unit...because I can see how easily the coil's position might be a teeny bit different in some units, despite quality control. And that could explain why every unit seems to have a bit of variance.

Which leads me to Day Five with my new Red FF. I have noted the following differences over my Silver FF:

• Battery cover fits more snugly. The silver's didn't come off by itself or anything but had a slight play in it, side to side, at times.
• Heat button is weird. I'd almost call it "mushy"...sometimes it's tricky to feel the detent position when you push it in. It never fails to work, but I'm a bit alert for issues with it. Hopefully it won't cause any operational problems. The button on the silver unit had a weird side-to-side play to it. Also weird, but different weird.
• Heat shuts off after 30 seconds of holding down the button. The silver shuts off at 45 seconds.
• Overall, a touch cooler, or should I say it cooks in a smoother, less heat-spikey fashion. ABV is almost always very even, almost never see any charred bits. Basically it's getting to the same temp and level of extraction, but it takes longer with the button to get there, particularly in the back half of the session. I have a feeling this one is calibrated the way FF intended, though the silver worked great...It just got hotter faster and so technique differences are required between the two FFs.

Be interesting to see what I get back from FF...if they replace my silver one, the new one may be more like the Red than the old Silver. And if they tweak/repair the Silver, that could affect temp profile also (in fact it absolutely will). Life is never boring in FF Land.

Bottom line: Red FF is gorgeous, works great, extracts as well but more smoothly and evenly, and is noticeably different than the Silver.

 

[Shiggity]

Yes! I couldn't recall who first posted their experience. Well, I have you to thank for it, @Shiggity.

Thank you for helping me turn this from a paperweight to a quality vaporizer, Brother.

Actually credit goes to @genericandorwittyusername for posting the first internal pics and @fernand for adjusting his coil. Mine is perfect as is but if I end up with problems the coil alignment will be the first thing I check!

 

[WildChild]

Wow! Nice work! Glad that ended up well for you. I personally would be scared shitless to try and tweak the coil. I'm sure I'd screw it up, or break it, or something. If this were my FF I'd just spend 10 bucks and send it to FF to fix, but again I am all but assured to mess this kind of thing up. It's actually surprising that such a small positional change would have such a dramatic effect, but I guess that explains the variations we are seeing reported from unit to unit...because I can see how easily the coil's position might be a teeny bit different in some units, despite quality control. And that could explain why every unit seems to have a bit of variance.

Which leads me to Day Five with my new Red FF. I have noted the following differences over my Silver FF:

• Battery cover fits more snugly. The silver didn't come off by itself or anything but had a slight play in it, side to side, at times.
• Heat button is weird. I'd almost call it "mushy"...sometimes it's tricky to feel the detent position when you push it in. It never fails to work, but I'm a bit alert for issues with it. Hopefully it won't cause any operational problems. The button on the silver unit had a weird side-to-side play to it. Also weird, but different weird.
• Heat shuts off after 30 seconds of holding down the button. The silver shuts off at 45 seconds.
• Overall, a touch cooler, or should I say it cooks in a smoother, less heat-spikey fashion. ABV is almost always very even, almost never see any charred bits. Basically it's getting to the same temp and level of extraction, but it takes longer with the button to get there, particularly in the back half of the session. I have a feeling this one is calibrated the way FF intended, though the silver worked great...It just got hotter faster and so technique differences are required between the two FFs.

Be interesting to see what I get back from FF...if they replace my silver one, the new one may be more like the Red than the old Silver. And if they tweak/repair the Silver, that could affect temp profile also (in fact it absolutely will). Life is never boring in FF Land.

Bottom line: Red FF is gorgeous, works great, extracts as well but more smoothly and evenly, and is noticeably different than the Silver.

Thanks, @mitchgo61.

Leads me to believe that virtually any FF could be adjusted hotter or cooler...awesome. And you can even maximize the button press efficiency and amount of battery you use.

Happy to hear you are still enjoying the experience.

@Shiggity
Ah, OK. Well thank you to all who helped me with this discovery. Science works! Who knew?!

 

[twigs]

I decided to take apart my original 'cool' unit <...>

I cannot recommend anyone try this as I don't want you to screw your warrantee...I risked it and things worked out

I'm tempted to try this with my Silver. I do feel that it is running on the cool side, requiring multiple button pushes before I can see any vapor cloud. Are there any "tricks" involved, other than using the correct Torx?

 

[WildChild]

I'm tempted to try this with my Silver. I do feel that it is running on the cool side, requiring multiple button pushes before I can see any vapor cloud. Are there any "tricks" involved, other than using the correct Torx?

Honestly, the only advice I can give is 'be gentle'. I'm not as handy or talented as @Shiggity or others but it was pretty easy. No doubt others can give better guidance on whether to do it or not...

I did this because I thought mine was broken anyways...I got lucky. I also live in a remote area so it may be simpler for you (and safer) to to get it replaced?

 

[Vitolo]

I apologize to @Vitolo for my rude, defensive response several posts ago and to you all for my negative initial review.

NOW I can share in the joy...

All I personally ever hoped for here was for you to share in the joy.

 

[WildChild]

All I personally ever hoped for here was for you to share in the joy.

Thanks, @Vitolo. Appreciated.

 

[natural farmer]

I'd like to see some pics explaining how the angles of the coil affects the temp... Mine is a little bit crooked but seems to heat nice enough. Wouldn't mind some minor adjustments if it results in even better heating though...

 

[rsqemt911]

I'd like to see some pics explaining how the angles of the coil affects the temp... Mine is a little bit crooked but seems to heat nice enough. Wouldn't mind some minor adjustments if it results in even better
heating though...

I think the coil heats the ceramic covering which retains the heat and transfers it to the glass bowl/metal heat sink.

If the wire isn't sitting right it may not be transferring the heat as effectively as it should.

 

[natural farmer]

There really is no room between the two ceramic pieces for the coil to be placed freely… The top ceramic actually presses the coil towards the bottom ceramic. There are also a couple of spots where the ceramic is colored somehow from the heat of the coil. I guess ideally the coil should not touch the ceramics at any point. I may try to check it out again later…

EDIT: Instead of opening the guts of my grey beauty and after a failed attempt to resist a second bowl while I was already high enough from the first, I thought of making a whip for the FF just for laughs… So I just took a foot long 1/2" tubing I happened to have lying around and carefully placed a small screen I had from my old Inhalater.
Then I realized I needed three hands to successfully hold the whip in my mouth, the other end pressed in the FF bowl and hit the button at the same time. In the end I decided to bite and hold the whip in my mouth while using my only two hands for the rest of the functions!
I was happy to find the FF could produce amazing clouds through the whip from a miniature 0.03-0.05 load and it was dark brown in three draws much like what someone would expect from a good log vape at a medium to high temp. Taste was excellent as well!

Next step was the SonG (Silicone on Glass…)

I don't have a glass piece at the moment but for the sake of science and for you GAS addicted people out there here it is… Simple, durable, cheap and it works!!! Happy clouds!!!

EDIT 2:

Guess what??? The SonG fits straight in the Lotus pipe as well (or in a Sherlock…)!!

I just had a fourth session through the Lotus stem pipe and the clouds were awesome and the ABV was also much darker and more uniform than from a normal bowl! You guys are gonna love the FF as a glass driver!!! Oh my!

Vapor experimentations can make you VERY happy in the process!!!


EDIT 3: I have this crazy idea that the SonG's bowl is very efficient and extracts better than the standard configuration… Waiting for more takes on this. The Firefly has just become a portable log vape imo! I had underestimated the heater… Well done Firefly!!! This thing is a little beast!

 

[Mr. Gweilo 420]

Hello. Been following this thread on and off. Just a quick question. I looked at the Firefly website and I could see that they are based in Washington state but where is the Firefly manufactured and assembled? Thanks in advance