"Overshatter"

Caligula

Caligula

Maximus
WTF is this stuff? I see its on sale at a local collective but Im unfamiliar with the term. The BT I spoke to on the phone said they dried it for a longer then normal amount of time so it went from a shatter glass to a dryish waxy consistency.

Does this effect flavor/potency at all? Just wondering since its on sale. If not, Im going to pick up as a few grams seeing as how its brand name full top nug run concentrate @ 40/g.
 
Puffers

Puffers

Micro-Climate Mastermind
I have heard that shatter can wax up under prolonged vaccum, I assume this is what's being referenced. I would think if the vaccum was to deep it could of caused some of the lower boiling terpenes to volatize so taste is more likely to suffer IMO.
 
Caligula

Caligula

Maximus
Okay, so I ended up getting two grams of this stuff, since that was the buy in for 40/g. Here are some pics (I put it all in this silicone container, it came in 4 different 0.5g acrylic containers... yuck):

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Consistency is like... well maybe a dryish Playdoh, or damp sand. It'll stick together if you press it, but its dry enough to be crumbly at room temp. Taste seems to be fine, however the vapor is a bit harsh when used with my pen. No issues when using through the bubbler, however. I could see that maybe this isnt as flavorful as the HGH "true" shatters that I have.

Any thoughts? I really only did 2 dabs so far so its too early to call on my end.

Oh I should also mention that I packed that in there. It came in a bunch of "rocks", but as you can see it was easily compressible. Maybe like wet sand?
 
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MileHighLife

MileHighLife

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Caligula said:
Okay, so I ended up getting two grams of this stuff, since that was the buy in for 40/g. Here are some pics (I put it all in this silicone container, it came in 4 different 0.5g acrylic containers... yuck):

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6rvq.jpg


Consistency is like... well maybe a dryish Playdoh, or damp sand. It'll stick together if you press it, but its dry enough to be crumbly at room temp. Taste seems to be fine, however the vapor is a bit harsh when used with my pen. No issues when using through the bubbler, however. I could see that maybe this isnt as flavorful as the HGH "true" shatters that I have.

Any thoughts? I really only did 2 dabs so far so its too early to call on my end.

Oh I should also mention that I packed that in there. It came in a bunch of "rocks", but as you can see it was easily compressible. Maybe like wet sand?
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That's about the consistency I usually make ... maybe a little drier. Shatter likes to explode everywhere and oil gets all over everything so I stick to wax & cookie dough. I can't say how everyone makes it but I leave mine on a griddle at 120 F - 130 F for a few hours and it slowly changes from shatter to cookie dough to wax (my ghetto terminology). I don't notice any loss of potency after the process ... that's not to say that some shady shops might not just crank the heat up to pump out larger amounts of wax faster and heat is a potency killer.
 
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Caligula said:
Consistency is like... well maybe a dryish Playdoh, or damp sand. It'll stick together if you press it, but its dry enough to be crumbly at room temp. Taste seems to be fine, however the vapor is a bit harsh when used with my pen. No issues when using through the bubbler, however. I could see that maybe this isnt as flavorful as the HGH "true" shatters that I have.

Any thoughts? I really only did 2 dabs so far so its too early to call on my end.

Oh I should also mention that I packed that in there. It came in a bunch of "rocks", but as you can see it was easily compressible. Maybe like wet sand?
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I have never heard this term before, but that just means it hasn't filtered north yet. :)
My first reaction to overshatter as a description is that it sounds like a mistake was made. But it's being offered at a discount right? So I guess that is what they are implying. Looks good to me.
 
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Yup. Typically they sell nug run HGH stuff at $60/g. This was had @ 2 for 80. I also hear you about the mistake aspect.

Im assuming other people made the same assumption and didnt buy it at full price (was at $60/g last week)?

Seems to have worked out for me.
 
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MileHighLife

MileHighLife

Blower of glass, grower of grass
I can see why shatter and oil would be more common in shops as they take way less time to make and can't be screwed up as easily.
 
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Caligula

Caligula

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darkrom said:
I'd guess it looks safe just a bit sloppy on consistancy. I'd totally be buying that for 2g for $80.

is it the best? Unlikely. Is it safe? Very likely.
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Oh safety wasnt ever a concern. I completely trust the extractor as well as the collective selling it. I was more interested in determining if this was "lessened" in effect and/or flavor in any way.

OT: Convection dabs with this stuff gives a LOT more vapor than an equal amount of shatter for some reason.
 
darkrom

darkrom

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I'd guess (based on nothing but my highdea) that the consistency simply is dryer than a shatter or a sap or something so it vapes quicker releasing more at once. Sounds like something that makes sense to my high mind at least.

I get way more vapor with true stable shatter than I do sap. I never had any other consistency since my caregiver has vac'd sap and every time I DIY its been shatter.
 
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This is all my experience based opinion however, I could be wrong since I only have the pic to go off of. But that's at least what it seems to be.
 
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mackiv

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Ya usually the auto buffering occurs not because there's moisture in there ( or it never would have been shatter to begin w/) but when the moisture expells while being exposed to warm temps.
 
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alltoreup

alltoreup

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I've left qwiso shatter in a silicone container on top of a light bulb in a lamp for too long and it turned to that consistency. I usually put it on the shade to soften it up a bit but wanted to speed it up, so I put it on the bare lightbulb. I usually come back after 2-3 minutes and it's perfect. This was left on for about 45( I might have been high and forgot it:brow:). It still tasted the same as the other that was still shatter. Granted this wasn't dispensary stuff, so it could affect shatter that was tasty to begin with.
 
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MileHighLife

MileHighLife

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Snake Plissken said:
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compared w/ what?
From what I've seen, most have more trouble achieving true shatter than anything.
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Compared to dialing in the consistency in Caligula's photos without over heating or over drying. To make shatter I vac the run over very low heat for an hour or so ... don't need to keep an eye on it or anything as there's nothing that can go wrong.

Some strains are impossible to achieve shatter ... for instance with my C99 I can achieve a very thick oil but shatter is impossible.
 
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