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Discontinued The Firefly Vaporizer

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tufftitty

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Just got my firefly here are my first impressions:

Vape Critic is right that you need a technique to get the right hit but after few chambers you will learn this.

The feel is solid although the heater button on my unit is kinda wobbly. The heater button is the part of the unit that feels the least solid and kinda cheap, anyone else have this issue? I also had tiny bit of scuffs on mine that is only noticeable upon close inspection.

But other than my wobbly heater button the design is just beautiful, very solid, and high quality.


Thanks for your post.

People have been reporting that their fireflys have been delivered quite a few days earlier than what FedEx said online. Did you track your shipment?
 

mckeen

Tumrgrwer
I just got done doing some Google research regarding adhesives and materials including silicone. Adhering a gasket, silicone or otherwise, to a stainless steel surface is a very common industrial practice. I seriously doubt very many people are going to experience any issues at all. Industry has been doing this for years. Where it may get questionable is if the temperature exceeds 400ºF for an extended period of time or if the temp ever hits around 500ºF is where some high temp adhesives begin to fail.

It is unlikely the firefly cover gasket itself will ever see those temps but the gasket around the crucible may see brief moments of 400ºF which is in high temp adhesive range.

Didn't mckeen also experience an amber LED light? If so his unit overheated which may have caused seals to delaminate.

yes, amber light. That was with two users for about 25 minutes. Several bowls, maybe 3. We were using it like one would use any other Vap.

Thank you mitchgo61, ordering online now.
 
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mitchgo61

I go where the thrills are
The feel is solid although the heater button on my unit is kinda wobbly. The heater button is the part of the unit that feels the least solid and kinda cheap, anyone else have this issue?

My button has a teeny bit of play in it. IE while you're holding it down with your thumb, if you push on the right side of the button, it pushes in a tiny bit farther. My first unit had this as well. Again, wouldn't call it wobbly, I would just say it has a "little play" in it when you push it. Doesn't feel like something that is going to get worse but rather just a function of how it's seated.

But I know what you mean, I guess.

Thank you mitchgo61, ordering online now.

De nada. Hey, I just ordered a kit from Amazon myself. Between the Firefly, and all the other crap in my house that requires tiny screwdriver bits, I'm not sure why I didn't already own one.
 

tufftitty

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I never got an email or notification in my account either.
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The Fireflys are shipping out FedEx and seem to be arriving in two days — I just checked my tracking number and it is in town right now. I will have a Firefly in my grubby hands tomorrow!

Great news, where did your ship from and when did you order? I'm egg ZITE haha
 

TimeCapsuleMonkey

Active Member
I have also found that you only need to preheat for a couple seconds if you havent used the device in awhile, otherwise you don't need to preheat at all. Just press the button, wait 2-3 seconds and start inhaling.

can someone help explain how the firefly is working exactly, so which part is getting hot? I see the screen sitting directly on top a metal plate with holes in it. Is the heating element below the metal plate with holes?
 
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mckeen

Tumrgrwer
Just got my firefly here are my first impressions:

Vape Critic is right that you need a technique to get the right hit but after few chambers you will learn this.

The feel is solid although the heater button on my unit is kinda wobbly. The heater button is the part of the unit that feels the least solid and kinda cheap, anyone else have this issue? I also had tiny bit of scuffs on mine that is only noticeable upon close inspection.

But other than my wobbly heater button the design is just beautiful, very solid, and high quality.

Also is it ok to plug the firefly into the charger whenever your not using it? Like pretty much if I am not using it, I should connect it to the charger, even if it is for like 20 minutes? What is recommended?

Mine was scuffed a little bit also. I used Novus acrylic polish took out the scratch and polished it nicely.
 

tufftitty

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Here is a URL for you:
http://www.thefirefly.com/firefly-portable-vaporizer.html#

The bowl or crucible gets hot and also take into account radiant heat.

Glass Heating Chamber
The delightful glow of the borosilicate glass heating chamber is warm, inviting, and creates a truly magical feeling. It also gives the Firefly its name.


Ordered X-mas day. Henderson, Nevada to a fairly close state.

I know, I can see through this plot you are hatching. I think you are planning to be on my porch when FedEx arrives so you can have my FF for your own! Are you a Fireflynapper?


Gasp I would never! lol anyway, I'm all the way on the easy coast so imma probably not see it until Monday bummer :(
 

marduk

daydreamer
So I sent mine back. CS was excellent and painless as expected, and friendly too. It's really nice not having to deal with a language barrier and/or a robot that will not deviate from a prepared script. Looking forward to getting a perfect replacement next week.
 

mitchgo61

I go where the thrills are
That makes more sense to me than the 8 plus four seconds the vape critic recommended. I think I can milk the fly with a 4 second warmup, maybe less? Besides I am looking for effect more than clouds anyway.

As I'm sure I've mentioned several times (he said, understating), I try to avoid the "warm up" push. Even on a cold unit, I hold for a 4 count and start hitting. I'd rather hold the button longer during hit #1 than hold, release, hold again. Though I don't think it's a huge problem on a cold unit, I personally try to avoid the re-starting of the heat cycle that a re-press can cause.

I have two cardinal, try-really-hard-to-never-break rules when I use the FF: always draw slowly and evenly. And never, ever, ever hit the button a second time during a single hit.
 

tufftitty

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As I'm sure I've mentioned several times (he said, understating), I try to avoid the "warm up" push. Even on a cold unit, I hold for a 4 count and start hitting. I'd rather hold the button longer during hit #1 than hold, release, hold again. Though I don't think it's a huge problem on a cold unit, I personally try to avoid the re-starting of the heat cycle that a re-press can cause.

I have two cardinal, try-really-hard-to-never-break rules when I use the FF: always draw slowly and evenly. And never, ever, ever hit the button a second time during a single hit.

So you're basically saying, load bowl, turn on, press heater for 4 count and draw slowly and evenly letting go of button once you start drawing. Next pull same process
 

mitchgo61

I go where the thrills are
So you're basically saying, load bowl, turn on, press heater for 4 count and draw slowly and evenly letting go of button once you start drawing. Next pull same process

For the most part, yes. However I usually hold the button in for about half my draw, and I guess I vary the draw length depending on where I am in the bowl. As the material gets more cooked I hold the button in and draw longer, basically a variant of raising the heat (on the Solo, for example) as the bowl gets darker.

But the real point is that I don't find it all that necessary to do the "hold for an 8 count and wait and then hold again" when the unit is cold. That first hit isn't usually a big one but I'd rather warm up the unit during a hit and sacrifice having the first hit be perfect than risk the potential spike of heat you can get by re-starting the heating process. Before I got the FF I was under the impression that you could "pulse" the heat button to vary the temp during a hit, but that's exactly what you don't want to do. Press it once, hold, draw, release, finish your hit, repeat. My experience anyway.
 

tufftitty

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For the most part, yes. However I usually hold the button in for about half my draw, and I guess I vary the draw length depending on where I am in the bowl. As the material gets more cooked I hold the button in and draw longer, basically a variant of raising the heat (on the Solo, for example) as the bowl gets darker.

But the real point is that I don't find it all that necessary to do the "hold for an 8 count and wait and then hold again" when the unit is cold. That first hit isn't usually a big one but I'd rather warm up the unit during a hit and sacrifice having the first hit be perfect than risk the potential spike of heat you can get by re-starting the heating process. Before I got the FF I was under the impression that you could "pulse" the heat button to vary the temp during a hit, but that's exactly what you don't want to do. Press it once, hold, draw, release, finish your hit, repeat. My experience anyway.
Seriously thanks to everyone participating in this thread. ;)


Pretty FRIKKEN EGG ZITE as I have some new "material" that is oingo boingo
 

luigi

Member
High, This is my first post. I read this thread this morning so as to avoid making the same mistakes with purchasing a desktop vaporiser. In the end, I ended up with a digital Volcano after testing one in Amsterdam.
I walked into NYGifts and bought a new in the box Firefly. This has a centre hole in the bottom of the bowl of the heating element. I´ve used it as recommend, for the last 5 hours going through about 1 g mix of homegrown
dr. grinspoon + cbd skunk haze. The battery was charged out of the box, but emptied after about 3 bowls, each pulled about 5 times. I recharged and its still strong after another 3 bowls pulls. As per the instructions, I just turned it on and pulled. A short 3 sec pull gave me a nice light effect with slight cloud, a 5 sec more of both, and 10 to 20 sec gave me a nice hit. I never got the led to go amber and never felt a couch lock.
My only complaints:
1. replacing the screen is a pain in the arse.
2. the top case is heavily magnetic and may cause a problem if placed near magnetic stripped cards, sd memory cards and computers,

I never expect much endurance of any rechargeable battery so.....

If it holds up, the FF is perfect for my needs. Volcano for home, FF for everywhere else.

Disclaimer and introduction: I am not associated with any commercial venture anywhere on this or any other planet, known or unknown. I am a 48 year old university phd biology researcher divorced, 2 kids and vape for medicinal reasons. My hobbies are dead lifts, shoulder presses, squats, road bike racing and everything else "normal" people do.
 

mitchgo61

I go where the thrills are
My only complaints:
1. replacing the screen is a pain in the arse.

While I'm disappointed, though not surprised, to hear this, I'm curious: why would you even need to change the screen when you just got the unit? Those of us using ours for a couple weeks aren't anywhere close to having to change the screen. (Frankly, from my myopic perspective, I don't think I'll need to change the screen for months...nothing really builds up on it, at least nothing that can't be brushed off or wiped off with some iso.)

Was there some problem with the pre-installed screen?
 
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TimeCapsuleMonkey

Active Member
I feel like I should chime in here as I am a Pax and Volcano owner who has now been using the FF for one day now. Also I am taking everything but cost into consideration here so...

FireFly vs Volcano: There is no comparison when inhaling from a Volcano Bag vs the FF, the Volcano is much easier, tastier, and smoother. Only the first inhale from the FF tastes great, as where with the Volcano the entire bag tastes good. Inhaling a full breath from the bag takes an effortless 2-3 seconds as where the FF takes 10 seconds of slow inhaling (you have to really work for each one). Also packing and unpacking the chamber is much easier with the Volcano, as with the FireFly it is a bit more messy because of brushing the lid and the chamber. And the FF chamber is quite small, only enough for 3-4 inhales. The Volcano is a far superior vaporizing experience at home. But if you only inhale very few times a day, are looking for something at home, and don't want to deal with baggies, then the Firefly is your guy!

FireFly vs Pax: Let me start with an advantage of the FireFly. It can give you a stronger inhale of vapor than the Pax. The Firefly might be a better at home vaporizer when compared to the Pax because you can control the heat to individual inhales, and also each one is stronger. You can also use it better with less. I can pack the Firefly, and with the preheat method I can get 2-3 strong inhales. The first one being the best. The downside to the Pax is that you have to pack a full chamber which uses a lot if your gonna do this a lot.

Other than that, this is not a great on the go device, heres why. First it is kind of awkward to hold, it is not that great holding this big thing in front of your face for 8 seconds. The Pax is much more easier to hold, the FireFly is kind of awkward to use on the go. The FireFly chamber is really small, only enough for 3 inhales, and thats about it. The Pax on the other hand has a large one so you can sit and constantly use it for about 15 minutes or so, but the downside is you need to finish it once you start usually. The Pax batteries last longer too. The Pax is easier to unload and load too, and I think just as easy or easier to maintain. People new to the device can easily use the Pax, as with the FireFly, chances are a novice might not be able to use it right. In regards to draw resistance, since the Pax is conduction, it is constantly generating vapor, so all you have to do is lightly sip it out every few seconds as with the FireFly you have to work a little to draw the vapor out since the vapor is only generated when the hot air rushes by. The draw resistance isn't that bad if you use the preheat method. Originally I didn't have the button pressed down on some inhales and I didn't notice because you can't really see the glow in the daytime when it is in front of your face. So I didn't think I was getting anything, but I figured it out. I am still learning how to use the device which goes with what VapeCritic was saying about an "advanced technique".

Overall, I think the pax is the best portable and the volcano is the best at home experience. And with the Volcano the vapor quality, ease of inhaling, and density is far superior.

The FireFly sits in a weird space between the Pax and the Volcano. It is slightly better in just a few things when compared to the Pax or Volcano. Sometimes I just might not feel like filling a baggy and I think it's at those times when the Firefly will really shine.

I still don't yet regret the purchase as it is a fun device to use sometimes but still the best home experience is the Volcano with the best portable experience being the Pax. Maybe I will change my mind as I intended to keep testing it out and learning how to best use it
 
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luigi

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I'm curious: why would you even need to change the screen when you just got the unit?

I only changed it to see how to change it!

I feel like I should chime in here as I am a Pax and Volcano owner who has now been using the FF for one day now.

EDIT: Im gonna review my thoughts and post back, I think I might have been using the FireFly incorrectly as I have been having problems making sure the heater button is fully depressed.


I only mentioned the volcano to point out why I was on this thread.

Comparing the Volcano with the FF is NOT really fair and not what I suggested by mentioning the volcano. Okay, you can compare the end results and cloud quantity, but I don´t need the cloud trails in a portable.
 
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TimeCapsuleMonkey

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I updated the post check it out but

Originally I didn't have the button pressed down on some inhales and I didn't notice because you can't really see the glow in the daytime when it is in front of your face. So I didn't think I was getting anything, but I figured it out.

I have also found that you only need to preheat for a couple seconds if you havent used the device in awhile, otherwise you don't need to preheat at all. Just press the button, wait 2-3 seconds and start inhaling.

can someone help explain how the firefly is working exactly, so which part is getting hot? I see the screen sitting directly on top a metal plate with holes in it. Is the heating element below the metal plate with holes?

Actually with further testing I found you do need to use the preheat method before each one, unless you take them back to back.
 
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tufftitty

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Actually with further testing I found you do need to use the preheat method before each one, unless you take them back to back.

Thanks for your review. I think for me the FF will be a pretty drastic improvement. I'm a metal one hitter bat-cigarette guy and I rarely smoke with anyone else (wife is preggo), so it will be like a really really fancy one hitter

(I don't have a volcano or a pax)

Also my package tracking hasn't updated since Friday at 4 am :(
 

mitchgo61

I go where the thrills are
Actually with further testing I found you do need to use the preheat method before each one, unless you take them back to back.

No, you don't. Once the unit is warm, you not only don't need to "pre heat" with the heat button prior to drawing, the manufacturer has *explicitly* warned against doing this because it can cause overheating and combustion. (If you took the time to read this thread, or even the last two pages, you'd see this was discussed ad nauseum.) Experiences vary, but anyone who uses the FF in this manner risks combustion or at least "hot hits" that don't taste great.

As for liking hits from a bag over direct convection vapor, again, I guess there's no accounting for taste. I know where I stand on this one!

I only changed it to see how to change it!

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
 
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