Just did my first run... nothing but clear 'tane in the pan

[420time]

I know right? I'd just keep it as pressed hash. Amazing price lol.

that may be true but i like oils better since its cleaner, stealthier, and thatll be some great oil if made with half o hash and half o flowers.

 

[420time]

300 ml = 10.1442 oz. They mostly sell the good stuff by the ml though.
oh I see. I use 4 cans per two oz of trees in the Queen bee. In a smaller unit I needed about one can per 1/4 oz of trees
with Hash you would use even less

so your saying you only use 1can for 1/4 oz of trees but im putting in half o of hash and trees so wouldnt i need atleast 1 1/2can?

 

[Patrick Hughes]

yep, that sounds like a good place to start. I think I would just do the two though. I can't judge halves very well, although I have tried in the past. Two full cans isn't too much extra.

I think I would put the hash in first, and the trees next to help keep the filter from clogging up all at once.

I am vicariously pumped for you. This sounds like a kickass project!

 

[420time]

so what you mean is put the hash in first where the butane comes in contact first then pack flowers and put the cap on? or other way around. im definally going to do this in the next 2-3 weeks. any heads up with doing this BHO project in a well aired garage? gunna purchase a 100g plate for personal use for more future extractions. including the tools, butane, and i hope the pyrex glass i can just buy em from the 99 cent stores be round 550$... so yea itll take a lil longer to get that amount.

 

[Patrick Hughes]

yeah you want flowers in contact with the filter in the bottom, so the tane will wash the hash through the flowers and not have it all hit the coffee filter at once. A clog could be catastophic.

 

[420time]

itll be nice if someone with more experience chimed in here. dont wanna blow myself up or anything.

 

[darkrom]

itll be nice if someone with more experience chimed in here. dont wanna blow myself up or anything.

Personally I wouldn't risk it in a garage. Blast outside, then you can evap the rest inside AFTER doing a hot water bath to remove the majority of butane.

 

[420time]

so how long should i place the pryex glass in hot water ? how much times do i change the hot water? after the reccommended changes of hot water can i just place it say ontop of a cable box thats pretty warm, for say 30 minutes then scrape ?

 

[darkrom]

I'd do at least 20 minutes hot water purge. If you have an electric griddle even better since you can adjust the temp. You can get them at walmart for like $20ish.

I'd say after the 20 min hot water purge you should be good to bring it inside.

How to purge is a VERY debated topic everywhere. Personally what I do is purge it as good as I can on a hot plate, then when I think it is ready to use, I dissolve it in everclear and then purge that all out. The everclear thins out the liquid which makes it much easier for the butane to escape. Me personally I'd rather have trace amounts of food grade alcohol in my extract than trace amount of butane.

 

[420time]

^^ what you say is true about dissolving it but dosent that just kill all the taste? itll be nice to get it but its supposedly illegal. also whats the minimun size for a pyrex dish for blasting round an ounce?

 

[Havelock Vetenari]

any heads up with doing this BHO project in a well aired garage?

Yes,definitely don't...
The three most basic rules to making BHO :
1.Do it outside!
2.Do it outside!
3.Do it outside!

 

[420time]

i hope that i dont blow myself up if doing it outside, i remember somewhere it said about winter and a spark from clothes.......

 

[darkrom]

^^ what you say is true about dissolving it but dosent that just kill all the taste? itll be nice to get it but its supposedly illegal. also whats the minimun size for a pyrex dish for blasting round an ounce?

Winterizing does ruin the taste from what I've done so far, but I'm willing to do that in the name of purity. Soon when the dispensaries pop up here I imagine I'll be hunting around for CO2 oil whenever I can. I'm all about the purity.

 

[420time]

lol as of now the mayoral race, both the runners are saying their want legalization of marijuana. what that be 4 years from now when they try to revote for mayor again...... probally wont be legalized for another 10 years.

 

[aesthyrian]

i hope that i dont blow myself up if doing it outside, i remember somewhere it said about winter and a spark from clothes.......

Read and memorize this http://skunkpharmresearch.com/butane-safety/

and then recite it to yourself while you are packing your tube.

And then proceed to blast safety and responsibly.

Also, please leave your cell phone inside, you have no need for it while blasting, and it can potentially create a hazard.

Please, ask as many safety related questions that you can think of. I'm confident that the folks here can help ya out.

 

[420time]

anyone know the ratio of trim to oil from bho? thinkin like 100g of bio grown durban poison trim. also the moroccan hash inside a extraction tube, do i have to break it up or can i just stick the whole piece in

 

[Havelock Vetenari]

Ratio depends a lot on the quality of the product used(buds/bigger fanleaves,good weed/not so good etc.,etc.),but i wouldn't expect more than 10-15% and if it's only trim even a bit/lot less.
Also i wouldn't try to use the Hash at all,that's just too dense to be suitable for this kind of extraction.

 

[honeyb101]

honeybee is awesome, but you have to grind fine. I have used many different extractor setups, but the Queen bee consistently gives the best yields

honeyb101 Sorry to bug u man, just wondering what u mean when u say u have to fine grind using the queen bee? Wondering why so? I know that when u use nugs u get better taste and better product not as much yield, but if u let the material dry and blast a second time wouldn't u get the same yield? Thx for ur time dman

mean is it because the pressure of having buds and the pressure of the screw on lid might back fire some how like I was thinking maybe to much pressure and the oil might come shooting threw the threads of the screwed on lid er what? U got me thinking twice when u said u HAVE TO FIND GRIND.?.?

 

[Patrick Hughes]

you always get a little leakage on the threads, but I was comparing the honey bee extractors to glass tube extractors. I get a much higher yield with the honey bee's all other things being the same, and I guess that is because the honey bees are under much higher pressure.

In terms of grinding, I find that with the large honey bee extractor (the Queen bee) which holds 2 plus oz of material, that because of the large size I got big dry pockets with loose grind and I was able to improve those results by grinding finer.

I was just saying what I do, though, and I should have phrased it differently because obviously lots of people do lots of different things and I was just stating my opinions. Some people prefer to run whole nugs, some people use dry ice to freeze the trichs off before they blast,etc.

I have found that I get the best balance of yield vs. purity by fine grinding and doing 2 0z runs in the queen bee. I currently winterize about 1/3 of the resultant product to get the wax out, but the first run stuff is much tastier and more potent in my estimation. The other stuff is a little flat, but one of my favorite pieces will not tolerate wax.

I know that when u use nugs u get better taste and better product not as much yield, but if u let the material dry and blast a second time wouldn't u get the same yield?

Different people say different things... I will say that you have described a method for clear oil, but I like the flavor and cannabinoid profiles that I get from my method. I definitely find that excessive solvent leaches out more than just wax though.. you also get more clorophyll. The wax is removable.

 

[honeyb101]

Nice... So u use all 4 cans on the initial blast or two now lets grinder material dry and do the other two cans after or all 4 at ounce? I always use full nugs but if u get that kind of yield with fine grind I guess it's worth to trade a little quality for lot of quantity thx for the quick reply budy

 

[Patrick Hughes]

I know that when u use nugs u get better taste and better product not as much yield, but if u let the material dry and blast a second time wouldn't u get the same yield?

Nice... So u use all 4 cans on the initial blast or two now lets grinder material dry and do the other two cans after or all 4 at ounce? I always use full nugs but if u get that kind of yield with fine grind I guess it's worth to trade a little quality for lot of quantity thx for the quick reply budy

I used to do cans until it ran clear, but I have figured out from practice that four is the right balance. I just run all four cans into one plate, heat with near boiling water until its pretty dry, pop it in the oven at 180 for fifteen minutes, vac for 15 minutes, heat for fifteen vac for fifteen and done.

 

[honeyb101]

Fuck yea awesome thread I'm going to try fine grinding and blast Thx for the input lets keep conversations like this going cause at the end of the day to make bomb bho I think it's all I the details and theirs so many details to pay attention to... I love it and will keep learning as I go and always share the knowledge peace

 

[honeyb101]

Continue with the run...purge, etc...There's probably oil there. A lot of the time, if done right with certain strains, you don't see much color until you scrape.

If you didn't get any oil, or very little, the bud is still fine, and probably has the goodies in it. If that's the case, you probably didn't pack enough/tight enough. I pack as tight as possible, with hold nugs.

Let us know what's up!

Edit* shouldn't need more than a can.

Has any one have the issue where the butane doesn't actually start escaping the extractor till ur three quarters way threw the the first can of p

I don't know how much he packs, but I know he packs until he CANNOT pack anymore. Solid nugs, stuffffffffed.

My yield doubled, maybe slightly less than double, when I went from loose to tight pack. First few runs in my SSTB, I packed a quarter OZ, maybe less. Now, as little as a quarter, with some strains, and up to a half OZ. It makes a difference. Loose pack = butane goes around most of the bud, getting cannabinoids from what it touches/permeates. Tight pack = butane forced to go THROUGH the buds, permeating all of it.

 

[honeyb101]

Had any one have this problem? I put three ounces into the extractor aka queen bee the butane didn't start leaking out till I was three quarters way my first can, i used 3 in a half cans in total. I was almost having a panic attack cause I never use more then a half o at a time using a glass extractor. And it usually starts poring out quick:/

 

[honeyb101]

I don't know how much he packs, but I know he packs until he CANNOT pack anymore. Solid nugs, stuffffffffed.

My yield doubled, maybe slightly less than double, when I went from loose to tight pack. First few runs in my SSTB, I packed a quarter OZ, maybe less. Now, as little as a quarter, with some strains, and up to a half OZ. It makes a difference. Loose pack = butane goes around most of the bud, getting cannabinoids from what it touches/permeates. Tight pack = butane forced to go THROUGH the buds, permeating all of it.

Also the nugs I used were very dense they were vacuum sealed prob how I fit so much in the damn thing, huge chamber didn't think it could hold so much