Discontinued The Hammer Vaporizer

[CharlieBelmont]

Doesn't using the lock-on system how you describe lead to breathing in butane? The original system heated up before you introduced the herb in the straw, but with the lock-on system aren't you blasting the herb with gas, and even worse sucking in the gas directly if taking sips while it heats up?

I don't get any butane using the lock-on, the air path is separate. I believe you are blasting the bottom/outer side of the heating element with gas, but the air you breathe comes in clean from the back of the hammer through the middle of the element separately. The gas never has a place to enter the stem or mix with the clean air. It just vents out the top.

 

[OO]

Please forgive me if this has been covered. I think I've read through the whole thread but could have skimmed over this topic.

Doesn't using the lock-on system how you describe lead to breathing in butane? The original system heated up before you introduced the herb in the straw, but with the lock-on system aren't you blasting the herb with gas, and even worse sucking in the gas directly if taking sips while it heats up?

I could be totally misunderstanding the system and do not want to rain on your parade. But if what I say is true I don't think I would use the lock-on system, though I would still be very interested in your product using it the original way. Of course there is the argument that all the butane burns up, but if I smell it then that's enough to concern me using the lock-on system.

1. The silicone gasket seals the stem to the heating element.

2. The exhaust from combustion has it's own port at a 90* angle to either of the inhalation ports.

3. Butane is non-toxic if inhaled in small quantities.

Just had my first great session with the Hammer; well great sessionS. Just like that, my opinion has completely changed. I used my longer stem, heated the vape up for about 20-30 seconds, and then got four slow draws worth of tasty vapor.

I really think this thing is going to take the crown for my backup vape; something I can whip out when I don't have access to a wall charger or external battery. I'd MUCHH rather use this than my MFLB on the go. I feel like the vapor quality you get from this thing is just incredible. I completely understand how someone in a previous post said this thing is great for "sampling" your herb. You get the full, rich flavor, and a nice thick cloud of vapor.

If you're wanting something that holds a lot of material, move along.. this has a smaller load capacity... regardless of what stem you're using... but god damn, this thing is awesome.

The learning curve is a bitch, but the payoffs are amazing.

It is great for sampling, if you can finish an entire bowl to yourself, some of the stuff going around lately is too much, the hammer really increases the effects. No need for much material when the hammer makes even tiny amounts stop you in your tracks.

And it's tested to 10,000 feet....in case from time to time you get that high.

Or think you might?

FO

The SV does nicely above 10K, can't wait to use the hammer up there.

Sorry I meant other lighter based vapes like the genie.

Flavor I imagine is better than the genie mostly due to the products of incomplete combustion in the intake. ( I can't speak from experience on this one, I still want to get a VG for reasons I will indicate below)
Harshness wise, I can see a great benefit from using the VG, because H2O is a product of combustion, which should help to humidify the air/vapor mixture. The Hammer can be quite harsh at times if you haven't figured out how to humidify the mix.

 

[OF]

Doesn't using the lock-on system how you describe lead to breathing in butane?

Good question, no, I don't think so. You lock into a tube that runs straight through it made of SS. The fire is outside the tube. Up and around it, but in the center, not the ends. Like the gas flame is outside the pan of water with a lid on it. Home heaters are built on this 'fire box' technology typically. The fire is on one side of a metal wall, we breathe what's on the other.

OF

 

[satyrday]

Good question, no, I don't think so.

Ha ha - at first I thought you were telling me it wasn't a good question. I felt about an inch tall. Then I re-read and re-interpreted your meaning, and gave you the benefit of the doubt because you seem pretty friendly. Now I see that "no, I don't think so" was an answer to my question and not a sarcastic rejoinder to "Good question". I was about ready to tell you there are no bad questions! (although I don't believe that's always true)

Thanks for all the responses. I feel better about it now. Butane can affect people differently so the issue shouldn't be dismissed, but these answers help me make sense of my lock-on concerns.

 

[TheDudeNextDoor]

Trying out my new lock-on stem, really dig it. This vape is really an amazing little device. To me, it's biggest strengths are its ability to conserve and its design that allows total control over when and how it heats. It has totally filled that gap for me that I lost when I stopped using my one-hitter. Now with this deeper, wider stem, it's a "one-hitter" that gives me a buttload of big rips right when I want it. I find myself using the Hammer in two primary ways: (1) when I need to conserve, and (2) when I want a few quick hits. With this larger stem, I could see me using it even more. I've really come to like this little vape over the last few months.


Just read satyrday's post. LOL. Nah, OF is one of the most helpful guys around here. Your second interpretation was the correct one.

 

[Head Tools]

These answers are all correct.

Heat is applied to the outside of the stainless steel tube (right in the middle). The exhaust gasses stay on the outside of the stainless tube and exit out of the top center of the Hammer. Your clean air travels only on the inside of the stainless tube. There are only two holes in the stainless tube and you can see both holes in either face of the Hammer. Your air goes in one side.. is heated as it passes through... and exits the other side.

The butane flame and exhaust never mix with the air you are inhaling. Because the path of the flame is completely separate from your airpath, you can have the flame on and inhale at the same time.

The lock on stem uses a high temperature silicone gasket to make a temporary seal between the glass stem and the stainless steel tube. In principle, the Hammer is still functioning the same as the original stems... but the lock on stem makes the Hammer even easier to use. The original stems require two hands to use and the lock on stem can be used with only one hand.

NO MORE wispy HITS
David

 

[satyrday]

Just read satyrday's post. LOL. Nah, OF is one of the most helpful guys around here. Your second interpretation was the correct one.

Yeah, that's why I didn't jump the gun and respond too soon. I've been reading here long enough to know OF is a good egg.

Some others come across as brusque and authoritarian like this all just sport to vent their obnoxiousness - plain arrogant if you ask me (some of that going on right now in another thread). But OF strikes me as a gentleman and a scholar - scholars seem a dime a dozen, but not so for true gentlemen.

The healing of the nations hasn't yet touched all hearts, but a bad trip or two will fix that (or maybe I should be merciful and say a REAL good trip or two).

 

[TheHerbalReview]

Yeah, that's why I didn't jump the gun and respond too soon. I've been reading here long enough to know OF is a good egg.

Some others come across as brusque and authoritarian like this all just sport to vent their obnoxiousness - plain arrogant if you ask me (some of that going on right now in another thread). But OF strikes me as a gentleman and a scholar - scholars seem a dime a dozen, but not so for true gentlemen.
(or maybe I should be merciful and say a REAL good trip or two).

Punctuation is the difference between:

1. Helping your uncle Jack, off a horse.
2. Helping your uncle jack off a horse.

I understood what he meant lol, OF is a good dude.

 

[OF]

I understood what he meant lol, OF is a good dude.

Thanks for all the kind words of support, you guys are making me blush.....I figure you've got me confused for two other guys?

In a rare serious comment, I screwed up. I chose words that confused rather than conveyed clear meaning, clearly my typing not the other fellows eyes. The responsibility for clearly getting the ideas (not a dumb question the answer to which is 'no') is mine and that didn't happen. Those that I'd bored to death for too long got it, but that wasn't the goal.

Such things get in the way of the important business of sharing useful information and are to be avoided. Wasting the other fellow's time and emotions is loosing.

Thanks again, glad it's history which hopefully will not be repeated.

OF

 

[Dopevape]

Please forgive me if this has been covered. I think I've read through the whole thread but could have skimmed over this topic.

Doesn't using the lock-on system how you describe lead to breathing in butane? The original system heated up before you introduced the herb in the straw, but with the lock-on system aren't you blasting the herb with gas, and even worse sucking in the gas directly if taking sips while it heats up?

I could be totally misunderstanding the system and do not want to rain on your parade. But if what I say is true I don't think I would use the lock-on system, though I would still be very interested in your product using it the original way. Of course there is the argument that all the butane burns up, but if I smell it then that's enough to concern me using the lock-on system.

Hi satyrday, The thing you are worried about is non existent. it still works the same way. The airpath is closed off. The metal tube you inhale through gets its air from a lower point while the exhaust of the gas/butane/exhaustfumes is on top of the hammer.
The tube is really just lying in the flame of the torch if you will, just getting heated up and the fumes go past it while that happens i don't know how i can explain it more clear.

EDIT: The unit gets heated up for 30 seconds as well and stays on until u find the temperature to be good enough for your needs. after that u just light it 10 sec again for reheating get it back on your wanted temp and u keep it lit up halfway your draw. at least thats what i do maybe im doing it wrong :s

ah great... while i was typing and retyping the others allrdy chimed in kk ... waste of letters... fuck it just tested the new tube... guess it ownz me ^^
i missed a page... rofl

 

[Egzoset]

Salutations,

I wish there were 2 vaporisation chambers: the 1st one for cannabis, of course, while a secondary cavity would generate water vapour... It doesn't take much (i verified that idea with fog), hence a single drop might suffice, go figure! - which makes me sort of wonder.

 

[satyrday]

Thanks for all the kind words of support, you guys are making me blush.....I figure you've got me confused for two other guys?

In a rare serious comment, I screwed up. I chose words that confused rather than conveyed clear meaning, clearly my typing not the other fellows eyes. The responsibility for clearly getting the ideas (not a dumb question the answer to which is 'no') is mine and that didn't happen. Those that I'd bored to death for too long got it, but that wasn't the goal.

Such things get in the way of the important business of sharing useful information and are to be avoided. Wasting the other fellow's time and emotions is loosing.

Thanks again, glad it's history which hopefully will not be repeated.

OF

It's unavoidable sometimes. You'll write something and go back a few hours or days later and it seems all wrong. Don't set yourself too high a standard. You can drive yourself crazy over-proofreading and then shifting this and that until it's unnatural and worse than before. It's just a forum - follow your good intentions that is all. Keep on truckin'

 

[Hammer Vaporizer]

Just wanted to give you all a heads up about our 4/20 weekend sale...

This weekend ONLY we will be including our new Lock-On Kit & Stems FREE with Hammer Vaporizer purchase. Just choose the "w/ Lock-On Kit" option from the dropdown menu when purchasing a Hammer to take advantage of this deal.

The FC discount link to purchase the Hammer is http://www.thehammervaporizer.com/products/hammer-vaporizer-special

We are also taking 50% OFF the price of ALL stems, including our Original Stems, GonG Stem, Extra Deep Stems and every one of our new Custom Stems in stock.

Finally, our new Premium Accessory Bundle is also 50% OFF, which means you will get the Lock-On Kit & Stems, Gong Stem & 10 Pack of Screens for just $19.99.

The sale will run through Sunday evening only. Have a Hammeriffic 4/20 FCers

 

[OO]

Just wanted to give you all a heads up about our 4/20 weekend sale...

This weekend ONLY we will be including our new Lock-On Kit & Stems FREE with Hammer Vaporizer purchase. Just choose the "w/ Lock-On Kit" option from the dropdown menu when purchasing a Hammer to take advantage of this deal.

The FC discount link to purchase the Hammer is http://www.thehammervaporizer.com/products/hammer-vaporizer-special

We are also taking 50% OFF the price of ALL stems, including our Original Stems, GonG Stem, Extra Deep Stems and every one of our new Custom Stems in stock.

Finally, our new Premium Accessory Bundle is also 50% OFF, which means you will get the Lock-On Kit & Stems, Gong Stem & 10 Pack of Screens for just $19.99.

The sale will run through Sunday evening only. Have a Hammeriffic 4/20 FCers

Is the only GonG you sell now a lock-on version?

 

[TheDudeNextDoor]

Just ordered a gong stem and this beauty right here at half price. Nice.

 

[Head Tools]

Is the only GonG you sell now a lock-on version?

Yes, but you don't have to lock it on.... you can just gently press against the GonG stem ( just like the original stems)

 

[OO]

Yes, but you don't have to lock it on.... you can just gently press against the GonG stem ( just like the original stems)

Thanks.

 

[TheDudeNextDoor]

I've been using my Hammer a lot more since getting the lock-on stem and have been really surprised at how much of a difference it makes. I'm really loving this little vape more and more. If you don't have the lock-on stem yet, take my advice: Take advantage of the 4:20 sale and get hooked up. You will not regret it. And no, I am not affiliated with Hammer in any way other than being a very pleased and impressed user. Can't wait to see what they come up with for the glass screen.

 

[Head Tools]

I've been using my Hammer a lot more since getting the lock-on stem and have been really surprised at how much of a difference it makes. I'm really loving this little vape more and more. If you don't have the lock-on stem yet, take my advice: Take advantage of the 4:20 sale and get hooked up. You will not regret it. And no, I am not affiliated with Hammer in any way other than being a very pleased and impressed user. Can't wait to see what they come up with for the glass screen.

Glad to hear that you are loving it! That custom stem you snagged is one of my favorites.

The lock on stem is such a small change, but it really does make a big difference in ease of use.

Hope everyone had a great holiday

NO MORE wispy HITS
David

 

[vaporonly]

still waiting on my hammer from the classifieds but i'm thinking of taking advantage of the 4/20 weekend sale....

i just can't decide if I should get the bundle or if I should get a custom stem. i don't have glass for the gong connector yet so maybe i should do the custom stem....who knows

one question: the slyme green stem is shown on the order page as having a relatively smooth shape

while the slyme green pic on the previous page of this thread as well as the pic from the discount page of the hammer website shows the slyme stem as having a shape with four bubbles:

i prefer the bubble shape. how can i confirm which on you guys currently have?

i appreciate the help

 

[Head Tools]

still waiting on my hammer from the classifieds but i'm thinking of taking advantage of the 4/20 weekend sale....

i just can't decide if I should get the bundle or if I should get a custom stem. i don't have glass for the gong connector yet so maybe i should do the custom stem....who knows

one question: the slyme green stem is shown on the order page as having a relatively smooth shape

while the slyme green pic on the previous page of this thread as well as the pic from the discount page of the hammer website shows the slyme stem as having a shape with four bubbles:

i prefer the bubble shape. how can i confirm which on you guys currently have?

i appreciate the help

All of the custom stems are one of a kind. The picture you see is the actual piece for sale.

David

 

[vaporonly]

All of the custom stems are one of a kind. The picture you see is the actual piece for sale.

David

thanks david, my hammer should be here on tuesday! can't wait.

 

[vaporonly]

I got my hammer yesterday, going to use it a bit before I post too much about it

one question: Do you guys stir after every hit or what is your stir procedure on this?

the supreme vape sure spoils a person on not having to stir. I'm wondering how the hammer would work if i didn't stir it....

thanks

 

[pakalolo]

I got my hammer yesterday, going to use it a bit before I post too much about it

one question: Do you guys stir after every hit or what is your stir procedure on this?

the supreme vape sure spoils a person on not having to stir. I'm wondering how the hammer would work if i didn't stir it....

thanks

How much are you loading? Are you packing it tight? I use the smaller capacity stem and put so little in that there's not much point in stirring it. One technique posted here is to use the larger stem, load it loosely and only half full, then tumble it.

 

[vaporonly]

How much are you loading? Are you packing it tight? I use the smaller capacity stem and put so little in that there's not much point in stirring it. One technique posted here is to use the larger stem, load it loosely and only half full, then tumble it.

I don't have any way to weight the amounts but i have been using the smaller stems too and trying different amounts. The smaller amounts like you said seem to do fine without stirring. Using more in it seems kinda of counterproductive because the top stuff gets used while the stuff under it isn't as dark.

I guess the thing with the supreme is you can't really see the contents until the end but they all come out consistently done. I'm just wondering if i'm thinking about it differently with the hammer because you can see the contents of the stem after every hit