Extended Curing...

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Yeah, this is the problem with internet sources, anybody can say anything, so it's best to have legit sources cited to help support the arguments made.

Where might these sources be? Where are your sources? ;) :p

I started digging into some chemistry books that where published and I found less information than any forum I've dug through. The source I posted is the only source I've found that sounded remotely like they knew anything.

All I'm trying to say is that this could very well be responsible for the improvement in potency.

I thought that you said that through vaping you decarb the entire material instantly anyway, so how would an increase in 5% pre-decarbed make much difference?
it means that the entire vaporized substance has been decarboxylated due to the temperature of vaporization and the temperature at which decarboxylation occurs being lower than that.


Do you know where I could find some information on the chemical reactions that occur after harvest? I haven't found any real good sources, most people say that the sole reason to cure is to even out the moisture, which I know isn't the sole reason.
 
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CBGa collapses in upon itself and forms the rings that comprise THCa, which as we all know decarboxylates into THC. See this video from SantaCruz Labs.
Thank you for that video, that explained the basic concept behind the reaction, but unfortunately not the conditions that cause the reaction to take place.
I thought that you said that through vaping you decarb the entire material instantly anyway, so how would an increase in 5% pre-decarbed make much difference?

I don't believe I said that, what I recall saying is that the conventional understanding of the process dictates thus. I myself always question convention under the pretense that misunderstandings occur and are passed down. My curiosity lends me to use anecdotal evidence to try and understand these relationships better, and to compare conventional wisdom with first, second, or third-hand experience.

I think if more scientists did this, there wouldn't be such negative perspectives surrounding medical cannabis withing the larger medical community, but I digress.

If my theory regarding the volitization of cannabinoids is correct, then they can volatize similarly to various waxes, in which they don't necessarily form a vapor mixture, but a bunch of droplets, similarly to when people cool their vapor so they can see it (or over-saturate the air mixture). If this is the case, I imagine it is possible that not all THCa is decarboxylated, and that the compounds in the center of the droplets may actually be in the acid state.

This is just an idea I have and may have no factual basis, but it could explain the experience inquired about in the first post.

This also assumes that the larger droplets are absorbed through the lung-blood barrier, which is something I am somewhat skeptical of, which is why I initially proposed that it was the decomposition products that are responsible for the experiences detail within the original post.

Again, this is all my theory, and it is based purely upon word of mouth, so who knows how accurate any of it is.
Do you know where I could find some information on the chemical reactions that occur after harvest? I haven't found any real good sources, most people say that the sole reason to cure is to even out the moisture, which I know isn't the sole reason.
I wish I had some good sources for you, but unfortunately I do not.

I believe other reasons for curing exist, like the ones mentioned earlier, I believe that the quelling of harshness may be a result of the oxidation of chlorophyll (for combusters only), and the increase in potency due to the increase in decomposition products, or decarboxylated compounds. I have my doubts about a benefit for vaporists that don't grind, especially in the flavor department.
 
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I have my doubts about a benefit for vaporists that don't grind, especially in the flavor department.

It's amazing the benefits that vaporizing bring. :tup: I find more reasons to love vaping every day.

Thanks for the discussion. I like the direction of your theory's.
 
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It's amazing the benefits that vaporizing bring. :tup: I find more reasons to love vaping every day.

Thanks for the discussion. I like the direction of your theory's.
You're welcome.
 
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All of the cannabis I have has been curing in freezer bags (not water vapor/aroma tight) separating strains, inside separate water vapor/aroma tight plastic ziplocks for 5 months. I helped harvest and manicure it, so I have been smoking it from just dried until now.

I think it is in it's prime right now. When it comes fresh out of the water vapor/aroma proof ziplock, it still has a very intense aroma, although it somewhat fades over several days. The smoke has mellowed out, and the taste is more complex. I can't say that the potency has increased, but the overall quality has definitely improved over the last 5 months.
 
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