Discontinued The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.

[oddvegan]

One more question i have been at the delta9 site to order new batteries and see by the cartridges it says....
All cartridges need to be oxidized prior to use, see instruction bar....i find no instruction bar, how does this work?
I did not do this with my first two carts.....uness i did it unknowingly but thnk not...can anyone help me out with this?

 

[oddvegan]

Sorry but i am full of questions today....now i thought since i killed my first set of 3.7 baterries i should charge my single 3.7 when i put it in the charger the light was red first, now it is green but red flashes on and off every three seconds or so...can anyone tell me what this means? When i first charged them it went to steady green when charged but never saw the flashing red in between....

 

[OF]

One more question i have been at the delta9 site to order new batteries and see by the cartridges it says....
All cartridges need to be oxidized prior to use, see instruction bar....i find no instruction bar, how does this work?
I did not do this with my first two carts.....uness i did it unknowingly but thnk not...can anyone help me out with this?

Yeah, I can help you out real simply.....don't do it. It does very little good (improves taste a bit at the start, maybe) but it wrecks lots of carts for guys. Best advice is never 'dry burn' any of them for any reason IMO. And that advice is, I think, the universal consensus? Guys burn out carts or make them into leakers more often than anything else of note.

Stay clear.

Sorry but i am full of questions today....now i thought since i killed my first set of 3.7 baterries i should charge my single 3.7 when i put it in the charger the light was red first, now it is green but red flashes on and off every three seconds or so...can anyone tell me what this means? When i first charged them it went to steady green when charged but never saw the flashing red in between....

I'm sorry. I don't use the factory charger. I'm color blind so trying to make sense out of it is all the harder. Someone else will have to explain the pretty lights......

OF

 

[Darb]

Why wouldn't this be considered to be a defect and covered under warranty?

-NDA

Good question.

 

[Bart]

Well i have been looking into batteries, and i have a question..
I am in Amsterdam and would prefer not to have to send for them from the US, is it possible i will find them here.
I found one eu site selling another brand efest they are 18350 and 3.7v 800 mAh would this workor is not recommended?
If i find the right size and voltage will they work?

I would stay away from efest right now. They just got called out for rewrapping unprotected icr batteries in imr wrappers.
Huge no no. It's all over one of the ecig forums right now.

 

[Vitolo]

I need assistance with one of my chargers.

I have for my Persei, some of the UltraFire small green Batteries..(CR123A800mAh)
I also have the special charger for them.. (UltraFire Rapid Charger)
The charger fell to the ground today, and the switches on BOTH sides landed in the middle of their settings.
I need to know what the settings are supposed to be.
On the left side of charger is 300mA or 650 mA
On the right side of charger is 3.7V or 3.2V

No guessing please.
I would like a definitive answer from a person that is DEAD sure!

 

[Nick Again]

I need assistance with one of my chargers.

I have for my Persei, some of the UltraFire small green Batteries..(CR123A800mAh)
I also have the special charger for them.. (UltraFire Rapid Charger)
The charger fell to the ground today, and the switches on BOTH sides landed in the middle of their settings.
I need to know what the settings are supposed to be.
On the left side of charger is 300mA or 650 mA
On the right side of charger is 3.7V or 3.2V

No guessing please.
I would like a definitive answer from a person that is DEAD sure!

Vitolo,

It sound like you have a WF-188 from the dual voltage and current settings. If this is the correct model, when facing upwards with the writing upright, the right side switch is for 3.7v vs. 3.2 volts - mine has the 3.2v setting nearer the "top" (i.e. closer to the "plug" end) and the left side switch is 300mA vs. 650mA with the upper (i.e. nearer the power plug) side for 300mA. At least on mine, the switch labels are just decals, so I can see how they could have come off.

(And yes, it is important that you use the lower current setting for CR123s, and probably they're LiFePO4 and also need the lower voltage setting.)

BTW. At the 3.7v setting, the WF-188 puts out just over 4.2v and the 3.2v setting gives 3.6v for charging (for LiFePO4 cells).

-NDA

 

[OF]

I need assistance with one of my chargers.

I have for my Persei, some of the UltraFire small green Batteries..(CR123A800mAh)
I also have the special charger for them.. (UltraFire Rapid Charger)
The charger fell to the ground today, and the switches on BOTH sides landed in the middle of their settings.
I need to know what the settings are supposed to be.
On the left side of charger is 300mA or 650 mA
On the right side of charger is 3.7V or 3.2V

No guessing please.
I would like a definitive answer from a person that is DEAD sure!

Sounds like you're talking about the WF-188 there?

For those guys you want the voltage switch (right side) on 3.2 (terminal (end) value for 3.0 charging) on the right switch, either current will be fine, the higher (faster) one recommended if the batteries don't heat a lot. The rule is to target 'one to two hours'.

Go for it, Bro.

OF

Edit: Curses, beat to the draw by NDA. Again. Seems like old times...... OF

 

[oddvegan]

Th

I would stay away from efest right now. They just got called out for rewrapping unprotected icr batteries in imr wrappers.
Huge no no. It's all over one of the ecig forums right now.

Thanks for the tip....i just ordered new 800mAh and 700mAh 18350 a pair of each from delta 9 plus a back-up 3.7 for single use.
Thought better safe than sorry.....

 

[Vitolo]

Sorry to seem so slow witted.
Still confused, and need a more direct answer.
On the LEFT side of my unit is a switch.
It has a choice of 300 mA or 650 mA
There is a switch there.
I have no concept in the world about electronics.
I need a direct answer
do I set that switch to 300mA Yes/no
do I set the switch to 650mA Yes/No
and....
withlout choices, ifs, and buts.........
do I stay on 3.2 or 3.7 Volts
PLEASE...
answer this only in very direct and simple terms... If there are "ifs and buts" and conditions to your answer you will not help~

 

[Nick Again]

Sorry to seem so slow witted.
Still confused, and need a more direct answer.
On the LEFT side of my unit is a switch.
It has a choice of 300 mA or 650 mA
There is a switch there.
I have no concept in the world about electronics.
I need a direct answer
do I set that switch to 300mA Yes/no
do I set the switch to 650mA Yes/No
and....
withlout choices, ifs, and buts.........
do I stay on 3.2 or 3.7 Volts
PLEASE...
answer this only in very direct and simple terms

It is complicated a bit because you said CR123As. Unfortunately these come in both 3.2v (AKA 3.0v) LiFePO4 cells (used for high current applications and cameras) ass well as 3.7v LiCO protected cells. It is almost certain that you're using the lower voltage ones (which are/were used by the old TV "SV" product line AND are listed in the Persei docs), but _I_ don't know which you have.

If they are low voltage LiFePO4s, you can charge them at a very high rate (i.e. either is fine on the WF-188), but if they are the protected 3.7s sold by many ecig shops, they should be charged at the lower rate. If they are 3.7v, you'd get better performance out of a pair of 18350s AND you could get IMRs (I haven't seen any (R)CR123 style IMRs).).

It is uncommon for most size Lithium ion cylindrical cells to be anything but 3.7 volts - But CR123s are the only easy to get exception

-NDA

 

[Vitolo]

I said CR123A800mAh this I thought very specifically refers to 3.0v
if anyone here has a simple answer (my question was VERY specific)...
without all of the extra words, please send me a PM.

A member has taken the time to PM me and answer the question short and simple.
Thanks to you who worked here to answer me!
Answer I received by the way.... in as understandable a form I hoped:
3.2v & 300mA

 

[oddvegan]

Yeah, I can help you out real simply.....don't do it. It does very little good (improves taste a bit at the start, maybe) but it wrecks lots of carts for guys. Best advice is never 'dry burn' any of them for any reason IMO. And that advice is, I think, the universal consensus? Guys burn out carts or make them into leakers more often than anything else of note.



I'm sorry. I don't use the factory charger. I'm color blind so trying to make sense out of it is all the harder. Someone else will have to explain the pretty lights......

OF

Thanks for this tip on oxidizing as well, or not in this case....i didn't do it and had great results so i will continue as i have done so far!

 

[THC SCIENTIFIC]

Why wouldn't this be considered to be a defect and covered under warranty?

-NDA

Hmm Nick never said we are going to charge for the upgrade.

 

[OF]

Thanks for this tip on oxidizing as well, or not in this case....i didn't do it and had great results so i will continue as i have done so far!

You're very welcome. Glad you're getting it sorted out.

OF

 

[topshotninja]

Hmm Nick never said we are going to charge for the upgrade.

I just received my hercules. but ejuices leak through the cart, is it meant for waxes only? or does it have to have bud in it as well, how about any user guide?

if you can please get back to me. that would be awesome!

one other thing. what's the major difference from the 3.7 to 7.4? besides the oil cart

 

[BLAZING OG]

I just received my hercules. but ejuices leak through the cart, is it meant for waxes only? or does it have to have bud in it as well, how about any user guide?

if you can please get back to me. that would be awesome!

one other thing. what's the major difference from the 3.7 to 7.4? besides the oil cart

It was said it might work with ejuice, but pure gold is what the tanks are made for, the 3.7 v hercules vs the 7.4 is that 3.7v herc is only for vaping herbs(not hot enough for oils) & the 7.4 volt herc combust herbs and can vape oils and waxes(thinner oils like pure gold seem to work best with the provided oil tanks)!!!
If you have an iris variable voltage top & the 7.4 v herc then maybe you can dial it in to about 4.5 to 5.5 volts to vape your herb!!!
hope this helps

 

[topshotninja]

its was said it might work with ejuice, but pure gold is what the tanks are made for, the 3.7 v hercules vs the 7.4 is that 3.7v herc is only for vaping herbs(not hot enough for oils) & the 7.4 volt herc combust herbs and can vape oils and waxes(thinner oils like pure gold seem to work best with the provided oil tanks)!!!

any chance you guys will be upgrading oil tanks to work better with e juices? I fill it up half ways and I only get like 4 hits

 

[Flintoli]

Does anyone have ANY fixes for the 7.4 hercules? Currently my brother is sitting next to me blowing CLOUDSSSSSSSSSS out of his "Hit IT Once" pen to piss me off. He bought from a despensary today for 80 bucks.

All it is is an ego w cart with the wick removed and a metal cone that seals and directs the wax unto the heating element. FUCKING BULLSHIT! plus his batterys are variable voltage. LOL

 

[BLAZING OG]

any chance you guys will be upgrading oil tanks to work better with e juices? I fill it up half ways and I only get like 4 hits

That was my exact question, maybe like 10 post back, but according to G, they have some tanks in the works to better accomodate all the different types of budders oils and waxes, i stated that for real world testing to try anything from a dab size hit all the way to maybe .3-.5 , and efficiency is also key!!!!!!
But not sure if they have one specifically for ejuice, they do make a separate ss tank for ejuice but not sure for the herc???!!!

<a href="http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/t...bs-and-concentrates.4873/page-313#post-332514">The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.</a>

All in good time my friend all in good time. With the feedback we got from the Hercules initial users we are able to make it better, the way the Herc is set up its easy to upgrade because its modular. This is incorporated into its design and all our other designs, and with the current upgrades we have for it its going to stand out.

 

[topshotninja]

That was my exact question, maybe like 10 post back, but according to G, they have some tanks in the works to better accomodate all the different types of budders oils and waxes, i stated that for real world testing to try anything from a dab size hit all the way to maybe .3-.5 , and efficiency is also key!!!!!!
But not sure if they have one specifically for ejuice, they do make a separate ss tank for ejuice but not sure for the herc???!!!

for those who purchased it now. will we be getting the upgraded versions of the tanks for free?

plus those who will be getting the upgraded core, what steps do we have to take to make sure we receive ours...?

 

[BLAZING OG]

for those who purchased it now. will we be getting the upgraded versions of the tanks for free?

plus those who will be getting the upgraded core, what steps do we have to take to make sure we receive ours...?

i dont think the tanks will be free upgrade, but every other part will be free, like the outside insulater shield mouthpiece, heater core, and heater core insulater, all u have to do is stay posted on here(FC) and G will announce when paarts are ready , then you contact D9 with your purchase order number and info (name, address,Etc Etc) & voila ,they will send you all the updated parts.
Oil
tanks if available might be for purcahse only not upgrade, G can maybe chime in here!!???

 

[topshotninja]

i dont think the tanks will be free upgrade, but every other part will be free, like the outside insulater shield mouthpiece, heater core, and heater core insulater, all u have to do is stay posted on here(FC) and G will announce when paarts are ready , then you contact D9 with your purchase order number and info (name, address,Etc Etc) & voila ,they will send you all the updated parts.
Oil
tanks if available might be for purcahse only not upgrade, G can maybe chime in here!!???

awesome! well I'm sure the ranks can't be too bad.
G, how long are these upgrades for?

 

[BLAZING OG]

Top Part here is about the replacement parts!

awesome! well I'm sure the ranks can't be too bad.
G, how long are these upgrades for?

Yes, you will need to contact us mid Feb to get the replacement parts, IE bottom adapter, outside shell, and new mouth piece, then when the heater cores come out it will be available to upgrade.



Yes, this is def in the development phase, the hercules has the potential to provide the largest amount of vapor when working with the correct combo, Currently we are testing it trying to vaporize .3 at a single given time, if all goes well you should see a cloud monster in the next few months that can not be matched in vapor production and quality of parts.

this last part was pertaining to the oil tanks ,(revised version)

No, Tanks are not bad at all, freaking genius if you ask me(healthstone kinda rock in tank), but they seem to work amazing with PUre GOld, but give 50/50 on the thicker waxes 50% of people its working great with thicker stuff, and the other 50% its finicky with certain budders and waxes!!!!

G, You think you might be able to incorporate the nail cart you had in development into a tank,a thin walled SS or Titanium kinda nail tank lol lol lol hahahahah Torchless!!!!!!!! With the Herc dreaming up ideas & possibilities is endless with its modular design !!!!

 

[DubCRider]

Does anyone have ANY fixes for the 7.4 hercules? Currently my brother is sitting next to me blowing CLOUDSSSSSSSSSS out of his "Hit IT Once" pen to piss me off. He bought from a despensary today for 80 bucks.

All it is is an ego w cart with the wick removed and a metal cone that seals and directs the wax unto the heating element. FUCKING BULLSHIT! plus his batterys are variable voltage. LOL

What's the issue you're having?

If you're using oil it requires a warmup period at 7.4v to transfer enough heat up the oil tank to melt the oils.

If your using flower you remove the oil tank and put your ground herb directly around the mini hammer.

It must be used will solid red IMR batteries, lithium ion batteries like Trust Fire won't work either.

Does your Herc get hot? Is your Persei working at 7.4v using standard carts?