Discontinued Thermovape Cera (Original thread, closed because of chaos)

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NoddingDonkey

Oil, Glass & I'm a bit of an ass
IMO when TV wishes us to know something they will make that happen. Until then they actually have the same rights and privileges the rest of us demand in our lives as I see it. IMO it's fair to ask 'when do you think products will ship?' And I basically asked that, but why is none of my business.

OF

I would agree except that I've already paid them. They owe no explanation to potential customers, still waiting anxiously to spend their money. Those of us who have already paid deserve to know why there is a delay so that we may make an educated choice to request a cancellation. If they choose not to offer an explanation then they accept a lost sale. When I front someone close to a grand and they're a week late on paying me back, their every breath becomes my business. I see this pre-order no differently.

New date: new years
 

pakalolo

Toolbag v1.1 (candidate)
Staff member
Like I said call them I just did customer service answered and gave me all my preorder details and assured me there working on all preorders as we speak, good things take time maybe they over extended themselves unintentionally it happens good plans turn into plans that turn out taking longer then expected. Shit happens be patient don't speculate use your fricken phone, call them don't gossip that's bull shit.

I've called them over a dozen times the past week without an answer. I resent your implication that those who haven't talked to them on the phone are too lazy to do so.

That'll be enough of that, both of you.

To everyone in general: Speculation is not helping, so please don't.
 

t-dub

Vapor Sloth
I would agree except that I've already paid them. They owe no explanation to potential customers, still waiting anxiously to spend their money. Those of us who have already paid deserve to know why there is a delay so that we may make an educated choice to request a cancellation. If they choose not to offer an explanation then they accept a lost sale. When I front someone close to a grand and they're a week late on paying me back, their every breath becomes my business. I see this pre-order no differently.

New date: new years
When I worked for Lexus I had people "front" me a lot more than a grand, and sometimes for products that were delayed, not received in perfect condition, destroyed in shipping, a few of the 15,000 parts weren't perfect, late, delayed again, missing accessories, damaged leather, paint issues . . . I could go on and on . . . please be patient until someone from TET has a voice. If it is water damage, their computers might be out.
 
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SameOldTim

Previously Known as 'ThermoCoreTim'
Manufacturer
OK here's the scoop everyone, we have NOT gone out of business and we are still gathering the stuff needed to get your Cera's out the door.

It turns out that our unit in the complex has the lowest part of the roof, and combined with all the rain we had a pretty major disaster when the roof gave in. Primarily it was our electronics (computers, cameras, monitors, etc) and our assembly tools that got damaged, None of the Cera parts were damaged so your all still going to be getting yours!

We are waiting for insurance to come do the inspection before we go ahead and get production underway. There are a lot of "T"s to cross and "I"s to dot. But don't you worry we are still going to get them to you and we are going to keep making them, we are receiving parts for the next batch as i speak.

Regarding your Cera orders... While we are still trying to get them all together to ship out before x-mass, there are a a number of things that we have to put all hands on in order to get the company back on its feet. In my opinion i would say they are going to ship out right after x-mass and should be receiving them no later than new years.

We are working very hard to get them out to you, we haven't forgotten about ya! You are all very important to us and we value each one of you!

Thank you for the patience,

Tim
 

Medical Mark

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You were warned not continue in this direction. The tone of your post violates our "Be nice." rule. Infraction issued.
Hey oil baron every time I call I get through to customer service and by the way I'm not implying anything impatient people I quess use a different vape , take some Ativan and just chill out.
It sucks were not getting our Ceravape till the new year now considering all the hype all the fuss but ill just use my other vapes I guess too bad I guess it was to good to be true for Christmas ? Maybe I was bad but. Just gave away my iolite well maybe some thing good will come back to me instead of being accused of calling people lazy.

Merry fucken Christmas
 
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harmudge

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please be patient until someone from TET has a voice. If it is water damage, their computers might be damaged.

Yes, that's true but I'm afraid that in this day and age that is no excuse...if you have a cell phone, more than likely you can access the net 24/7 if you want...failing that, most folks have a pc/mac at home and failing that...there are many many net cafes spread all over the globe.

Hallelujah Tim,

I appreciate your update but I truly think that it should be Noah coming on here and apollogising to all his dis-gruntled customers for the lack of updates.
I'm aware that he has had, and still continues to have his hands full with insurance etc but I really feel that we have just been put on the back burner here.
 
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OF

Well-Known Member
Regarding your Cera orders... While we are still trying to get them all together to ship out before x-mass, there are a a number of things that we have to put all hands on in order to get the company back on its feet. In my opinion i would say they are going to ship out right after x-mass and should be receiving them no later than new years.

We are working very hard to get them out to you, we haven't forgotten about ya! You are all very important to us and we value each one of you!

Thanks for the update Tim, sorry to have missed you this morning....more so given the conditions. Good luck sorting it out, I hope you're not forced to move.

Please send me an email as soon as you're fit for company? Thanks.

OF
 

Dreamerr

Always in a state of confusion and silliness♀
I will bet a unit went through the window that OF mentioned. ya know just more 'durabiliy' tests lol. i think we are all safe this company seem to have a steadfast and stalwart reputation. plus this is some future tech we are waiting on things happen.

I was thinking the same thing and laughing. Cause that would have been a way better scenario then water damage which sucks big time for anyone that has ever had it.
 
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OF

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I was thinking the same thing and laughing. Cause that would have been a way better scenario then water damage which sucks big time for anyone that has ever had it.

I'm not proud about it, but when i first saw the boarded up window I too thought of a 'line drive coffee cup' as well. I bet they wish it was just a broken window.....

The good news is we still have Tim. Now if we can just get him some parts and a dry place to sit down maybe he can get some products out....

I don't know about you, but I'm so glad to find out it wasn't a burglary, or worse yet vandalism.

OF
 

jambandphan03

in flavor country
i am very glad it wasn't worse news, definitely a set back, but one that can be overcome in a short time. Let's remember that these are people running this company, and not loose sight of a bit of compassion in this situation. I am very grateful nobody was hurt. Hang in there everyone... and try to enjoy the holidaze.
 

Bluntcrush

Director of Vapor Research Labs™
Good to hear Tim. Glad no one was injured during the incident, and that things can get back to "normal" one day soon! Sending best wishes to all involved! Please update us again as things start to get back on track again.

Well, now that I have had time to consider how the Cera would change my daily vaping routine I have come up with a new issue. I originally ordered the EO and some accessories, then I went back and ordered the LL cart, and now I am seriously trying to decide if I also need the E-liquid cart... As it is, I use a SV Revolution with Dart and a SV e-juice RES system and HR AVA combo in my daily routine. I carry around the two vapes and a couple of extra batteries.

If I had a request for a possible new addition to the Cera line it would be a cool, well thought out carrying case. Maybe the case could have some areas for extra batteries as well as some spaces that could hold the different carts so that they are not in danger of spilling. I know you can re purpose all kinds of other cases for your gear, but something along the lines of what was made for the Alpha line but for cera enthusiasts this time.
 

Haywood

Onward Thru the Fog
I don't understand all the vitriol I'm reading; maybe I just have a different perspective, but if I were TET, I'd be reconsidering how much info I pre-released to the public in the future, and whether my desire to keep customers ahead of the loop might be a mistake. Hopefully they aren't as disappointed with the initial response here as I am. At least it's getting better (the response) now that Tim has had a moment to come here and explain things.

Let's see,

(1) TET pre-released a LOT of info about their upcoming line. This allowed people (us) to decide if we wanted to hold off on buying anything from the first gen line so as not to be upset when something "newer and better" came out a month or three later. This doesn't particularly benefit TET; it benefits us. Most people will stop buying until the new stuff comes out. It also allowed the few of us that wanted to order any first gen stuff to get what we wanted before gen 1 became unavailable. (I bought an Ultra/DART, since a mini-cera is not anticipated for at least a year).

(2) The CEO/Owner (Noah), the New Product Development and Marketing Manger (Tim), and one of the Tech Support people all came on-line and not only answered questions, but even at this late date took suggestions and changed minor things to our liking (e.g., Two different safety switches; one that works like an old light switch, but always sticks out from one side or the other, and one that can be removed, and only used when one wants to travel, etc). Conversing with us takes up precious assembly time, but we want it all. We want them on-line holding our hands, making us feel like part of their family, and we want them assembling our stuff and sending it out. It's a small company, not Google.

(3) We demanded (begged?) more and more video's. So TET goes out and buys more video cameras and computers, and Noah, already working 20 hour days, becomes a movie star. One person wants to see 45 second hits. One person wants to see many 5-10 second hits. One person wants to see how much concentrate the new Cera Essential Oil (CEO) can hold and how many hits that translates to. One person want to know how little concentrate the new CEO can hold and how many hits that translates to. So Noah keeps making videos, destroys lots of plates and coffee cups, and vapes more THC than most of us vape in a year. (Well, maybe not that last part). This also takes up precious assembly time, but Noah not only wants to make the best product, he want to make everyone here happy. Would you have preferred Noah saying "We can't make any movies, or take any pro pictures until after we deliver, so no soup for you"?

(4) TET wanted to be able to deliver the new stuff by Christmas. They almost made it. Of course, their roof caved in from the torrential rains, at the worst possible time, and half the messages were pissed off that they didn't immediately come here and tell us all about it. Like it was a responsibility not a courtesy. It sounds like the delay is only going to be a week or two, and while I certainly understand the insanity that comes from waiting for something really really wanted, this is ridiculous. Vaporware (pun intended) is typically months and months late, sometimes years; not a week or two.

Anyway, I wanted to get that off my chest. As far as I'm concerned TET is still a company that cares more than 99.99% of the companies I deal with, and they still make products I have to have.
 
Im sorry to hear about the damage. After reading through everything I found myself moderately upset and really regretting having chosen the Cera, however Haywood does do well to put this all in perspective. If any of you are like me you have been checking your email in the morning and several times a day looking to see if your order has shipped yet and planning your first play dates with your new vape and telling your friends to check it out, so it it disheartening or antagonizing to be kept in wait. This considered the TV team has provided the most unprecedented pre-customer-service and customer service and have all worked hard not just to sell us a great product but to educate and make us as passionate about it as they are. So I just have to remind myself that its not that big of a deal and that in a few weeks ill have a top of the line product in my hands.

Good luck Noah and all, thanks for the hard work.
 

OF

Well-Known Member
Amen Haywood! About the time I convince myself you're just another pretty face around here you come off with a simple but profound post like that! Talk about putting some useful perspective on things.....

Thank you very much for the most welcome sunshine into our dark little room.

This considered the TV team has provided the most unprecedented pre-customer-service and customer service and have all worked hard not just to sell us a great product but to educate and make us as passionate about it as they are.

Wow! Another great insight. When it rains around here it pours for sure (hope another roof doesn't let go...). Of course, they've infected us with their passion for Cera! How cool is that?

Bummer folks have to wait, but how few things these days are really worth waiting for?

OF
 

BLAZING OG

Vaping is a way of life!
You can never predict when disaster strikes, I hope the whole TET team is ok, and i hope the loss is minimal!!
What is this world coming to, theres more important thing to worry about than a delayed vaporizer, kids being murdered in cold blood!!!:disgust:
 

Slightly Medicated

(SliM) Iron Lungs
Haywood said it perfectly. Thanks so much for taking the time to write that out.

TET does not owe this forum anything. Everyone here should consider themselves lucky that TET is even willing to give us such access in to the workings of their design/manufacturing process. Its really disappointing to me when people walk around acting so entitled. TET's first responsibility is not to this forum... anything they post on here should be considered icing on the cake.

I hope everyone at TET is okay and no one was injured from the roof damage. I also hope all the photographic equipment and everything is going to be covered under insurance. I hope employees got their personal items out before any major damage was caused. As someone who has been going though a series of unfortunate events I completely empathize and wish that TET can get back on track without costing them to much time/money/effort.
 

OF

Well-Known Member
i am putting together a disaster relief crew to head to TET headquarters and help aid in the cleanup. whos with me?

NO SLEEP TIL CERA!

I'm down with that. By the law of the seas we get salvage rights, right? You keep 'em distracted while Jam and I load all the Cera parts into the trunks of our cars?

BTW, having used one I can assure you you'll get plenty of sleep after Cera.......

OF
 

harmudge

Active Member
Posting this again in the hope that someone may see it and be able to give me an answer...T.I.A.


I'm thinking that in the near future after receiving this wonderous gadget I may treat myself to a bubbler/ash catcher, something like this...
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What would be great to know from the Beta Testers or TET, would be...if I'm using the LL cart, which is the set-up I've ordered...if I turned the Cera upside down with a bowl full of leaf to connect to the top of that bubbler would the leaf block the mouthpiece rendering this bubbler useless unless I connected a whip between the Cera and bubbler ?

TIA.


Edit - For some reason the picture is not showing ?? So I have copy & pasted the link to the item....http://www.vaporwarehouse.com/hydrator_mini_hydrators.html
(Mods, sorry if linking is not allowed).
 
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