Discontinued The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.

nickzzzx

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Now I know I'm late to the party and missed the successes of the OMICRON.
I still love the 2.4 carts however the HERCULES is easier with the different vicoucities of waxes available Today in the 420 world.

I found a aluminum camera case that I will convert to contain my PERSEI's and all the different Gizmo's it comes with and will come with. However sounds like I need to be prepared to keep making new configurations to store all these medical devices.

Now I went to my parents house for the family Thanksgiving gathering. In preparation I vaped 5 rips of Crumbled Wax with my new HERCULES. Wearing my dark sunglasses I arrive to a feast beyond the imagination. After grinding the gourmet dinner and fine drink I come home to my PERSEI. I load up the carts with fresh wax. The light turned blue however no heat and no vapor.
Having one arm in a cast I could not take my HERCULES apart so my lovely wife opened it for me. After cleaning all the contacts and adjusting the batteries without panic VAPOR was being produced. A few rips before bed put me in slumber land.

I believe it to be the "SYNERGIES" of an Effective device pared with well made medicine!
How's the airflow compared to the persei carts? Easier to pull or similar?
 
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NoddingDonkey

Oil, Glass & I'm a bit of an ass
How many hits are my fellow Herc users getting per tank? I know there is a learning curve for all new tech but I'm only getting 10 hits per tank, which equals about the same efficiency of a nail rig :-/ I am probably doing something wrong.

Regarding a few questions:

Airflow-very very easy to pull. As flow reduces, there are 2 air holes that could possibly clog (and can be pin cleared with the Herc fully assembled and hot.

"Caution Hot" is not printed on the insulator to cover G's ass legally. Its there to save patients from seriously burning ourselves. This thing really retains heat. It also appears that either the inner sleeve (metal) expands or the insulator (delrin) contracts; either way the result is I have to flip the mouth piece over and use it like a tap press to drop the herc internals from the insulator. Also, do not attempt to inspect or swap tanks until the herc has fully cooled (10 minutes give or tank at room temp, putting it near a duct or a fan helps) because you will drip wax all over your pants and desk (yes...this happened, good thing levi's has a black friday sale. It felt cool enough to not burn me...but was still hot)

Battery efficiency: Better than The Bender, but not in the realm of carts (you wont get 200 hits from a charge). This should make sense as soon as one looks at the heater core. It's 75" the size of a bender core and also ceramic.

I plan to record a few clips and take pics of the cleaning I will do today and will post links later
 

SlideOrDie

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How many hits are my fellow Herc users getting per tank? I know there is a learning curve for all new tech but I'm only getting 10 hits per tank, which equals about the same efficiency of a nail rig :-/ I am probably doing something wrong.

Regarding a few questions:

Airflow-very very easy to pull. As flow reduces, there are 2 air holes that could possibly clog (and can be pin cleared with the Herc fully assembled and hot.

"Caution Hot" is not printed on the insulator to cover G's ass legally. Its there to save patients from seriously burning ourselves. This thing really retains heat. It also appears that either the inner sleeve (metal) expands or the insulator (delrin) contracts; either way the result is I have to flip the mouth piece over and use it like a tap press to drop the herc internals from the insulator. Also, do not attempt to inspect or swap tanks until the herc has fully cooled (10 minutes give or tank at room temp, putting it near a duct or a fan helps) because you will drip wax all over your pants and desk (yes...this happened, good thing levi's has a black friday sale. It felt cool enough to not burn me...but was still hot)

Battery efficiency: Better than The Bender, but not in the realm of carts (you wont get 200 hits from a charge). This should make sense as soon as one looks at the heater core. It's 75" the size of a bender core and also ceramic.

I plan to record a few clips and take pics of the cleaning I will do today and will post links later

Thanks for all of the early info and for answering most of our questions :)

How much are oil are you loading into your tank for the 20 hits?

And are they monster rips or just normal inhales?
 
SlideOrDie,

ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
How many hits are my fellow Herc users getting per tank? I know there is a learning curve for all new tech but I'm only getting 10 hits per tank, which equals about the same efficiency of a nail rig :-/ I am probably doing something wrong.

Regarding a few questions:

Airflow-very very easy to pull. As flow reduces, there are 2 air holes that could possibly clog (and can be pin cleared with the Herc fully assembled and hot.

"Caution Hot" is not printed on the insulator to cover G's ass legally. Its there to save patients from seriously burning ourselves. This thing really retains heat. It also appears that either the inner sleeve (metal) expands or the insulator (delrin) contracts; either way the result is I have to flip the mouth piece over and use it like a tap press to drop the herc internals from the insulator. Also, do not attempt to inspect or swap tanks until the herc has fully cooled (10 minutes give or tank at room temp, putting it near a duct or a fan helps) because you will drip wax all over your pants and desk (yes...this happened, good thing levi's has a black friday sale. It felt cool enough to not burn me...but was still hot)

Battery efficiency: Better than The Bender, but not in the realm of carts (you wont get 200 hits from a charge). This should make sense as soon as one looks at the heater core. It's 75" the size of a bender core and also ceramic.

I plan to record a few clips and take pics of the cleaning I will do today and will post links later
I found that I needed to hold down the Blue light less with the tanks.
Freshly charged batteries as well.
 

BLAZING OG

Vaping is a way of life!
G got my herc's but the part where the mouthpiece screws into spins freely so I can't actually screw my herc's mouthpiece down?
Any suggestions ?
 
BLAZING OG,

NoddingDonkey

Oil, Glass & I'm a bit of an ass
Thanks for all of the early info and for answering most of our questions :)

How much are oil are you loading into your tank for the 20 hits?

And are they monster rips or just normal inhales?

I am not weighing the loads, but i pretty much roll up two balls the diameter of the tank and drop them on top of each other and tamp them down with a dabber to keep the lid's o-ring clean. I have maybe 1-2mm below the o-ring and it feels/looks like a .2-.3 load

It takes some technique to get the right temp i feel like, it will dab your entire tank to your dome or not at all during the learning curve (which is where I am at). I am going to try with Iris when I get mine (ordered today).

I have been doing 10 second button depressions, and sucking before/after for another 10 seconds, for a total of 30 second inhales. The first 2-5 produce weak clouds, and then I hear a sizzle in the Herc and a massively thick cloud entering my lungs, and obeying G's orders to continue toking after you let the button go, another 2-3 massively thick clouds right after as it "cools"

It seems like the Iris might allow for a lower maximum temp and avoid the "dunk bomb" effect I keep experiencing.
 
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NoddingDonkey

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G got my herc's but the part where the mouthpiece screws into spins freely so I can't actually screw my herc's mouthpiece down?
Any suggestions ?

Same thing happened to mine pretty much right away. I used super glue around the circumference where the "ring" meets the housing - pull the ring up a bit, apply glue, push ring back down, wipe excess with ISO damp (not soaked) Q-tip <---G, this appears to be an issue
 
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NoddingDonkey

Oil, Glass & I'm a bit of an ass
Did you mean .25g?

If it's .025g for 25 hits I'm gonna shat myself when my herc gets here :D

his decimal is in the wrong place 100% confirmed - sorry

I've been recharging after 2 pre-learning curve summit sessions and my charger indicates 20-30% charge per cell when I pop them in so my guess is once you pass the learning curve this will equate to 2-3 tanks per battery pair. If you bought the accessory kit and are without access to power, you would need 2-4 extra batteries to burn all 8 tanks. I suspect, again, that The Iris would improve those figures.

When my Herc arrived, I did not swap the batteries i was currently running in my Persei. They had about 50 twin cart rips on them. They died completely during the 2nd Herc test sesh. History has taught me not to push batteries that far so I'm sticking to 2 tanks per charge until I can consistently get 3, and I don't see that happening without a lot of practice and/or the Iris. I'm kicking myself for not ordering it with the Herc, I didn't really see a huge benefit to using the Iris with standard carts or The Bender, but I do for the Herc.

Again, this is not the word of god here, just my personal initial impressions
 
NoddingDonkey,

BLAZING OG

Vaping is a way of life!
Same thing happened to mine pretty much right away. I used super glue around the diameter where the "ring" meets the housing - pull the ring up a bit, apply glue, push ring back down, wipe excess with ISO damp (not soaked) Q-tip <---G, this appears to be an issue
Mine started the issue once I boiled it' after boiling the mouthpiece won't crew down all the way and if I do I cant unscrew it cuz the ring spins freely!
Thanks for the tips!
 
BLAZING OG,

OF

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Did you mean .25g?

If it's .025g for 25 hits I'm gonna shat myself when my herc gets here :D

Yup, he said 1/4 gram earlier on. You can no doubt rig up 1mg hits if you really want them. But the 'not a cloud in the sky' guys will be after you.

And while I applaud attempts to foretell the future and all, correct grammar, please? Shat is past tense.....

Queen's English is 'I do believe I'll fill my trousers' I think?

OF
 

NoddingDonkey

Oil, Glass & I'm a bit of an ass
P.S. My efficiency is going up with regards to product used vs cloud count. I'm not at 25 hits yet but closer to 20 than 10.

Come on Blazing OG, I need a hiking buddy to double time up this learning curve incline.

All the clouds produced by the Herc have been quality. i thought my Bender tasted pure (and it does, for flower), but goddam if you have fully-purged wax i challenge you to enjoy it more any other way than through the Herc and a clean tank. It really does taste like the first rip on a new, squeaky clean rig, every time I've hit it. I even reloaded a tank that was obviously heated well beyond being empty (had some burned wax residue visible) and it still tasted great. O_0

I am not in a big hurry to try the Herc with flower because of the mess I foresee after a smaller session than my Bender could provide. The Herc is a hot, sticky beast inside
 

BLAZING OG

Vaping is a way of life!
P.S. My efficiency is going up with regards to product used vs cloud count. I'm not at 25 hits yet but closer to 20 than 10.

Come on Blazing OG, I need a hiking buddy to double time up this learning curve incline.

All the clouds produced by the Herc have been quality. i thought my Bender tasted pure (and it does, for flower), but goddam if you have fully-purged wax i challenge you to enjoy it more any other way than through the Herc and a clean tank. It really does taste like the first rip on a new, squeaky clean rig, every time I've hit it. I even reloaded a tank that was obviously heated well beyond being empty (had some burned wax residue visible) and it still tasted great. O_0

I am not in a big hurry to try the Herc with flower because of the mess I foresee after a smaller session than my Bender could provide. The Herc is a hot, sticky beast inside
Oh yeah ,I am all in for some hercs and hiking' got to say so far every hit of wax taste delicious and the more I hit it the thicker clouds I am gettiing out this beast!
 
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