Discontinued The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.

THC SCIENTIFIC

THC SCIENTIFIC

To Boldly Go Where No One Has Gone Before
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Medical420MI said:
So I got 4 ohm carts in addition to the 5 ohms that come included on order. Would I be better off with the 2.4? arrgh. It's almost too many options but I'm not complaining. Just don't want to waste hard earned money.
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Well i would start off by going easy on the 5.0's first learn how to use that then once you master that the 4.0's would be a blast, all you have to do is remember to press half the seconds you would with a 5.0 and adjust from there.


by the way here is a image of the Original persei with the ss tubes on the side for comparison.

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ataxian

ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
tharealmclovin said:
1. I cant determine your experience. Just saying 5 ohm is for experienced users.
2. I wonder the same thing myself. I would like to see a mix in the package.
3. If you want to try it make sure you prime very well @ 3.7 volts and feather the button @ 7.4.

Here is my story...Had Omicron V1, had trouble went to 1.5's to compensate for my lack of experience. I quickly fried my oil and it tasted like crap and leaked. I went back to 2.4's and perfected my technique. After that I could blow bong size hits with the stock 2.4. I then got the V2 HVD, I then got the Persei and did the same thing but with 5 ohm. Fried a few carts, burnt oil, leaked everywhere, hot oil in my mouth, etc.

Now Im not saying I cant use those High power carts. In fact for awhile I prefered them. But I always go back to good old dependable 2.4 @ 3.7 cuz I KNOW THE WORK PERFECT WITH PROPER TECHNIQUE. I still have a 5 ohm loaded to knock people on their ass, but I always have a 2.4 on my Persei.
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Now I'm getting some great information!

OK my typical night of insomnia.
Dwelling on dual vaporization!

Down to my garage at 1:07AM and open the tool box with all the PERSEI gadgets.
I have 3 x 2.4 carts left and one with 500 hits that is still going on my Chrome unit?
OF and tharealmclovin are trying to warn me about the experience factor.
So after putting my ego in my pocket I decide to listen.
Plus I have the most beautiful collection of medicine I don't want to waste.

I see Vitolo's video making it look so easy so I had to make this work without wasting my medicine.

Here's what I did:

Took some L.A. Budder 0.65g and loaded a new 2.4 cart that I primed.
Tested my new load (Perfect medicine vapor clouds).
Knowing the new cart is working I attach the dual top leaving in the 3.7 battery.
With both carts installed I ad the the dual to single mouth piece tip.
HOLD button 5 seconds and let go: (both these carts are working well)
Test one: Perfect Vapor Cloud
Test two: Perfect Vapor Cloud
Test three: Perfect Vapor Cloud
Test Four: Need to stop
Conclusion: Double Dosed (careful)

Now the light bulb in my brain clicked.
I will need more experience to use the 5.0 carts.
The 2.4's like OF advised are a good place to start.
Now I will start trying different batteries and cart configurations.

There is a definite learning curve I need to respect. (sorry for my arrogant behavior)

I am super lucky to buy a PERSEI so early in my 420 journey.
It's like having a 911 for your first car!

I want to give thanks to all my teachers on this site!

4 more rips and back to bed!
 
ataxian

ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
Medical420MI said:
So I got 4 ohm carts in addition to the 5 ohms that come included on order. Would I be better off with the 2.4? arrgh. It's almost too many options but I'm not complaining. Just don't want to waste hard earned money.
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I really don't think you wasted any money just gaining more stuff!
I bought a five pack of the 2.4 carts based on OF's advice.
I was not having any luck in the beginning with the 5.0 cart I first tried with PURE GOLD.
OK I use different concentrates now (more viscous)!
Now I want to get some more batteries and different carts like the 4.0's.
I ended up buying a second PERSEI because the first one worked so well.
It can be luring to buy all the different vapes out there however the PERSEI can do so much!

Can't wait for the HERCULES.

Just cool stuff!
 
Zingbuddah

Zingbuddah

Vaporologist
kittyboy said:
Cleaning the bender today with ISO and notice the inner bulb where the hammer inserts is brown and not able to clean. Anyone else having similar situation?? I didn't soak it but used brushes and couldn't get it to fade.
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I've tried both the ISO soak as well as boiling the main body glass with no luck getting all of the brown tinge to disappear. Jam tried as well before she sent it to me with the same results.

A sure fire method to remove EVERYTHING is D-Limonene....found at any Home Depot in:

ZEP 64 oz. Organic Drain and Disposal Cleaner

For $3 you can get three times the amount of the praised Grunge Off Super Soaker in a different bottle...3-24 hours soaking and then just rinse well.

There are a few more active chemicals besides D-Limon but using gloves and rinsing leaves no residue and will take EVERY bit off that can be cleaned.

I'll give it a shot on mine and post a pic.

-Z
 
jambandphan03

jambandphan03

in flavor country
Zingbuddah said:
I've tried both the ISO soak as well as boiling the main body glass with no luck getting all of the brown tinge to disappear. Jam tried as well before she sent it to me with the same results.

A sure fire method to remove EVERYTHING is D-Limonene....found at any Home Depot in:

ZEP 64 oz. Organic Drain and Disposal Cleaner

For $3 you can get three times the amount of the praised Grunge Off Super Soaker in a different bottle...3-24 hours soaking and then just rinse well.

There are a few more active chemicals besides D-Limon but using gloves and rinsing leaves no residue and will take EVERY bit off that can be cleaned.

I'll give it a shot on mine and post a pic.

-Z
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I tried straight D-lime liquid, (no other additives), and couldn't get the brown glass to wash clean, so good luck to you guys getting that brown stain from the center bulb.
 
jambandphan03,
ataxian

ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
Zingbuddah said:
I've tried both the ISO soak as well as boiling the main body glass with no luck getting all of the brown tinge to disappear. Jam tried as well before she sent it to me with the same results.

A sure fire method to remove EVERYTHING is D-Limonene....found at any Home Depot in:

ZEP 64 oz. Organic Drain and Disposal Cleaner

For $3 you can get three times the amount of the praised Grunge Off Super Soaker in a different bottle...3-24 hours soaking and then just rinse well.

There are a few more active chemicals besides D-Limon but using gloves and rinsing leaves no residue and will take EVERY bit off that can be cleaned.

I'll give it a shot on mine and post a pic.

-Z
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OK then if PURE GOLD has D-Limone in it I will have l will longer vape it.
Question for you?
Is the flavor from the blender good?
 
ataxian,
Zingbuddah

Zingbuddah

Vaporologist
ataxian said:
OK then if PURE GOLD has D-Limone in it I will have l will longer vape it.
Question for you?
Is the flavor from the blender good?
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The D-Lemon isn't the issue, its the other chemical in it that assists in cleaning the garbage disposal. I routinely handle D-Lemon without gloves without issues. Bob is the resident expert on the safety from reading his other posts.

AFA the Bender, I'm putting it at 9.5 out of a possible 10 only because of the glass and my tendency to break said glass. I love the flavor from the Bender....great for really bringing out the flavor of any herb (drying helps).
 
Zingbuddah,
OF

OF

Well-Known Member
Gentle friends,

This brown stain isn't on the inside the lower chamber (where the nail is)? Out gassing from the nail?

How about fine steel wool on a stick? You know like the q-tips the Tin Woodsman used to clean his ears?

OF
 
OF,
Zingbuddah

Zingbuddah

Vaporologist
OF,

Just happened to have both sitting right here...sorry to report no luck on the steel wool method.

Not sure if the stain is on the inside or outside...could be a spot on the glass where it collects heat and is attracting more material.

I just took a few before pics and started the D-Limon dunk. I'll follow up later today with progress.
 
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Nick Again

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OF said:
Gentle friends,

This brown stain isn't on the inside the lower chamber (where the nail is)? Out gassing from the nail?

How about fine steel wool on a stick? You know like the q-tips the Tin Woodsman used to clean his ears?

OF
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WARNING!
Never clean borosilicate glass with ANY abrasive! Even microscopic scratches will greatly weaken the material and will probably lead to cracking when heated.

From Corning:
http://catalog2.corning.com/Lifesciences/media/pdf/CLS_AN_112_CleaningGlassware.pdf

-NDA
 
OF

OF

Well-Known Member
Nick Again said:
WARNING!
Never clean borosilicate glass with ANY abrasive! Even microscopic scratches will greatly weaken the material and will probably lead to cracking when heated.

From Corning:
http://catalog2.corning.com/Lifesciences/media/pdf/CLS_AN_112_CleaningGlassware.pdf

-NDA
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Not exactly true, never scratch the surface. Mild enough abrasives are fine. Quoting from that very web page:
"For glassware that is exceptionally dirty, a cleaning powder with a very mild
abrasive action, such as BonAmi®, will give more satisfactory results. The abrasive should not
scratch the glass."

What gets guys into trouble is hardened metal and high pressure. Steel wool (misnomer, it's really quite soft...) and a stick is safe enough in my experience. Hard steel tools can scratch and lots of 'elbow grease' can frost some glass surfaces but gentle scrubbing with a steel tip swab should be fine.

Yes, avoid scratches. My money is still on cosmetic stains far outside the vapor path. Time will tell.

Thanks.

OF
 
OF,
jambandphan03

jambandphan03

in flavor country
I was wondering if it was the glass that discolored due to heat, since nothing was taking off the stain...
 
jambandphan03,
SlideOrDie

SlideOrDie

Well-Known Member
jambandphan03 said:
I was wondering if it was the glass that discolored due to heat, since nothing was taking off the stain...
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Pretty sure its the same issue that happens with direct inject joints on oil rigs... the tip of the joint where the nail sits gets discolored and is pretty much impossible to get back to a perfectly clean state.
 
Zingbuddah

Zingbuddah

Vaporologist
A few hours in and zero luck with the D-Limon. I'll let it go overnight now and then hit it with a Q-tip and toothpaste chocked up in the Dremel.

-Z
 
N

Nick Again

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OF said:
Not exactly true, never scratch the surface. Mild enough abrasives are fine. Quoting from that very web page:
"For glassware that is exceptionally dirty, a cleaning powder with a very mild
abrasive action, such as BonAmi®, will give more satisfactory results. The abrasive should not
scratch the glass."

What gets guys into trouble is hardened metal and high pressure. Steel wool (misnomer, it's really quite soft...) and a stick is safe enough in my experience. Hard steel tools can scratch and lots of 'elbow grease' can frost some glass surfaces but gentle scrubbing with a steel tip swab should be fine.

Yes, avoid scratches. My money is still on cosmetic stains far outside the vapor path. Time will tell.

Thanks.

OF
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What counts is if the "scraping" material is harder than the glass (as in the Mohs scale). Steel wool is harder than glass.
Check the (non-technical) article below, particularly the comment from December 29, 2009 10:44 PM.
http://anythingbutipod.com/2009/04/glass-screen-durability-test-a-lesson-on-the-mohs-hardness-scale

Steel wool (and Iron wool, which is softer - in hardware stores) is rated by abrasiveness; Don't use "0" - It is too hard; "000" _might_ be OK. Typically boro glass is about 5 to 5.5 on the Mohs scale. Iron wool is about 4, but steel wool is 5 to 6 (i.e. TOO HARD).

And whatever is in BonAmi or other household cleaners should be softer than 4 also.
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BTW: When I worked in a lab, we sometimes used toothpaste (IIRC Crest), and sometimes it worked :)

-NDA
 
jambandphan03

jambandphan03

in flavor country
why the obsession with removing the brown? It will simply return again on the next use, even if you succeed in removing it. I would be concerned about damaging the glass, even by accident, at some point, is it worth the risk? Simple methods are not working, why push the issue?
 
Zingbuddah

Zingbuddah

Vaporologist
jambandphan03 said:
why the obsession with removing the brown? It will simply return again on the next use, even if you succeed in removing it. I would be concerned about damaging the glass, even by accident, at some point, is it worth the risk? Simple methods are not working, why push the issue?
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OCD is a killer...right now I hate using my Persei because it has a scratch on the tube.

Drives me nuts if I can't get it spotless.

But you are right, it isn't affecting anything.
 
Vitolo

Vitolo

Vaporist
Choose a pleasant strain, whose scent you love.. I walked around smelling "Blueberry kush" and "Medibud" for an hour!
 
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baltik

Well-Known Member
Just to confirm - dual top kills battery life twice as fast? The cartridges otherwise behave same way as if a single cartridge was used? (ie no need to change voltage or ohms based on dual top vs single top)
 
baltik,
havealight101

havealight101

Norski
baltik said:
Just to confirm - dual top kills battery life twice as fast? The cartridges otherwise behave same way as if a single cartridge was used? (ie no need to change voltage or ohms based on dual top vs single top)
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Short answer: correct, correct
Long answer : uuuummmmmmm.....OF to the rescue?
 
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