PB88123
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Wipe* the mouth piece and cap when needed when switching back and forth is what he meant.
Discontinued Thermovape Cera (Original thread, closed because of chaos)
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Wipe* the mouth piece and cap when needed when switching back and forth is what he meant.
Belgianvapor
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voila ! ordered the stainless steal loose leaf vaporizer (with 2 batteries, charger, car charger and illuminated switch (just to be the cool guy on the block !)) so European orders are possible !
OF said:
Thats it I'm In, I'm on board, I made it to the station.
I'm down for An essential oil unit, a loose leaf cartridge, charger, batterty and car charger, I cant quite squease a spare battery out of the piggy bank right now probably have to grab one after xmas, but I'll just have to get over that, I'll mostly be using the oil cart till about febuary when my crop comes in so it shouldn't be that much of a problem any way...
Well now it starts I just spent about 10 minutes just staring at the picture on the web site
I'm in love
havealight101
Norski
TIMTIMTIM!;
Why 2c?? So then Aw IMR's 10c will fry it?
Also how long is warm up?
Why 2c?? So then Aw IMR's 10c will fry it?
Also how long is warm up?
pentops
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I'm very interested to hear a good explanation for the unusual switch setup on the Cera. I've seen nothing but solid engineering from TET since I've been following them, so I have no doubt there's a good justification. But I just don't get this one.
They've put a big ugly wart on on the side of this stunning beauty in the name of safety. Which would be fine if it made the Cera substantially safer. I'm not convinced that it does. Is it safe to turn it on and leave it in your pocket (or between the cushions) until it runs out of juice? If so, the safety switch doesn't really add any critical safety. If not, the Cera should have a thermal cutoff instead of a safety switch. Vaporizers need to be walk-away safe.
They've put a big ugly wart on on the side of this stunning beauty in the name of safety. Which would be fine if it made the Cera substantially safer. I'm not convinced that it does. Is it safe to turn it on and leave it in your pocket (or between the cushions) until it runs out of juice? If so, the safety switch doesn't really add any critical safety. If not, the Cera should have a thermal cutoff instead of a safety switch. Vaporizers need to be walk-away safe.
OF
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IMO not a chance of that. There's no electronics there. And which 'chamber' are you talking about? The core gets really hot but the herb chamber (what I think you want?) doesn't heat until you get involved. Unless it could foretell the future some how, a 'it's hot enough now' light won't work on this kind of vape, unlike systems like Volcano, HA and the rest of the convection vapes that use a temperature controlled heater. Or the 'oven types' like PAX.
Handy for sure, but I don't think possible.
Yes, the system is basically the same. The heat core heats mostly by IR through saturation. The whole core gets hot, all the inner surfaces radiate. IR is 'bouncing all around' in there. Air has to be 'inside the kiln' long enough to pick up the heat.
It's just the improved version. At least that's what I see.
OF
OF
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Here's my guess on the matter, and it's just a guess. First off, changes have been asked for. Most of the changes seem to be driven from specific requests.
Recreational users probably have little use for two switches. However many Medical users (the customer base TV has said they're really looking to support....) have issues with switches. Many of us are chronically troubled by even simple hand actions, some of us have it 'come and go' with changes in health.
There are lots of posts on TV threads to that effect. What works well and is 'right' for most customers is difficult to impossible to some....sadly some of those who really need it the most.
I suggest that such things are to give them useful choices too? For all I know the lawyers may have had something to do with it too? Might explain the 'safety' part.....
OF
Yes, you must contact us directly to place an order with one of the old coupons.
The switches are to give the device two areas of protection while it is stored. For example if someone were to leave it in their backpack, even if it was at the bottom of the bad crammed with a bunch of other stuff, the possibility of both switches being activated is next to none.
We are giving this 2C recommendation as that is the the rating for our battery. There are many batteries that will fire the Cera without a problem, but you must assure they are a safe battery and are up to the challenge. Just contact us through the live chat or email if you have a questions about one of your batteries.
Its very minimal difference if any in warm up times from SS to Ti.
Not yet, need a clean one for pictures......
I think it will, but i haven't tested it yet. The Cera is surprisingly efficient and doesn't require a tremendous amount of energy to fire properly. Ill keep you updated.
Negative, the light is to indicate when the device is turned on.
It's the same in this newer version, right?
Same concept, just improved A LOT.
oops... Wipe is what i meant....
Congratulations!!!
2C is the rating for how quickly the battery's PCM can expel energy, the higher the "C" rating the more energy that battery can expel when its demanded. We are still testing to figure final warmup times, but its looking pretty similar to the T1. maybe a hair longer.
Cheers,
Tim
Cheerful Dub
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oops... Wipe is what i meant....
That makes a lot more sense, thanks for the correction 
As far as the two switches, I was originally put off but came around to it, at least in concept. With the machined opening in the delrin sleeve on the T1 body it tends to roll "face up" with the heavier side down, and more than once I've had to be mindful of placing it near the edge of a table in a lazy fashion. Obviously the Cera is a balanced cylinder throughout and I see no reason for a similar balancing act to occur, but at the same time without a heavier side it could potentially roll indefinitely.
I would not be very excited to get nicely medicated, set the unit down on a slightly uneven surface, get spaced out on some task (like writing a post on FC
) only to hear it fall and chatter across my wood floor moments later. Assuming it's not a problem sliding in and out of pocket and in hand it should serve well in terms of the overall fit and finish.As far as functionality, assuming I have parsed the switches correctly as interrelated toggles, I think I would have to defer to OF. I could imagine quite a few scenarios where you could find it preferable to keep the end cap switch in the on position and use the side switch back and forth as the primary means of control. Seeing as how it is designed to always orient in a "positive" position due to its protruding out of either side, there is no way you won't be able to know at a glance if it's on or off. This is another reason I went with the illuminated switch option, as another visual reference point on the action was something that intrigued me and was missing from previous iterations.
Another thing about the usability and having a positive toggle is that I personally don't have issues with my grip strength, yet I consistently have to clean the body assembly and battery compartment cylinder because the oil from my hands will build up and make it very difficult to activate in a reliable fashion. I could see how individuals who have problems with dexterity or control would have a frustrating experience with that system, and I could also see how even the need to click "in" on the end of the cylinder would be a hassle. Intuitively it makes no sense to me, but we will see how it feels in hand. Alternatively, being in-line with the body, the toggle would be much more natural to press across the cylinder, say with your thumb - which is generally how I hold and activate the T1 body currently.
My last thought on the issue would be that sharing is caring, and the more tactile and visual feedback provided with appropriate activation the better, at least as far as getting up to speed is concerned. Every novice knows what the derivative e-cigarettes look like and how they function because the light on the battery tip and the light on the activation button, so diagnosing their operation or if it's "on" is quite simple, even if you don't know what you're doing.
The only thing you can tell people with the T1 style is to maybe hook their finger over the end of the adapter to feel it warm up, as well as getting "used" to what the vapor production feels like with the appropriate draw rates.
I think it's nice they've provided these features with the newly designed toggle, and optionally with the illuminated switch cap. From a usability standpoint these could really be nice touches and I appreciate the option on the latter, as some users would not desire the light for stealth concerns. Although there is certainly no arguing the safety toggle is the only feature to break the otherwise very clean line of the body, I think we can learn to live with it
I see your point, effectively if you left both toggles on then one is not really a "safety", but it seem as though a cutoff would be problematic given its intended temperature production and range of usage, particularly across the various core and material applications.
Not yet, need a clean one for pictures......
Using IMR's in this vape will work, no doubt; but will be a little overkill for this particular application. IMR's shine when they are being used in constant high draw applications; like a traditional e-cig. I'd imaging with the battery life they are touting, the overall power draw of the Cera isn't too crazy.
OF
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Good point. We get that outstanding 'flat out' performance from IMRs at the expense of higher capacity. Given the lower power demands that might not be as good a trade off as it once was......
Lucky some of us have a pile of 18650s to sort through, I bet in short order we come up with the same sort of guidelines list the MFLB enjoys?
OF
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Gammy's getting upset!
PB88123
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Belgianvapor
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I'm from the flemish part of Belgium
OF
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I've got a long time friend (25 years?) from there, met him at sea. He seems pretty concerned about the economy and politics there, strangely similar to concerns of many here. Very much a minority in a small place. The whole country is the size of the San Francisco bay area, huge culture differences, lots of traditions changing. Fun times.
He seems to see "the Greens" in a light similar to how some here saw "the Reds" a generation ago...... Funny how that works out.
He often comes to visit about the time the weather there gets grim. Likes to 'come to sunny California' and run around in shirt sleeves for a while.....probably be thinking about it about now....
Good thoughts..... Thanks.
Best wishes.
OF
lookhigh
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Ik spreak een beetje flaams
Belgianvapor
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Yeah the economy isn't doing too well but hey, in time it'll fix itself.
We got friends in the states (PA) wich we visit a couple times a year and they visit us once or twice a year, it's always fun to be in another culture for a few weeks either here or away.
We haven't been to the west coast yet but gonna do that soon.
OF
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Yeah, I also recall Marc saying you passed zero population growth a while back meaning big time cultural shifts in a society pretty stable for the last several centuries.
Make great beer, too. Very serious about yer suds....and for good reason, IMO.
By all means do come 'see the coast'. Problem is leaving.....and then getting back again it seems.
OF
SoulCaptivesAreFree
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With so many fancy new portables coming out i'm glad i held on to my iolite for a little longer instead of buying a solo (which would only have been a compromise for me)
really looking forward to the first reviews!
good vibes
really looking forward to the first reviews!
good vibes
Only having ordered one battery is bugging me, I got a bit more cash than I expected which pretty much payed for the whole order already, and work has stocktake coming up which means as much overtime as I want.
I'm starting to think that having that spare would really be a weight off my mind.
I'll shoot the help team an email and see what they can do.
R
I'm starting to think that having that spare would really be a weight off my mind.
I'll shoot the help team an email and see what they can do.
R
The ceramic encapsulation was a great choice - what killed the T1 for me was radiant heat, it's not predominantly convection unless you time it with skill, so the learning curve should be significantly easier with the Cera range. Can't wait to feel what the boys have cooked up this time - this next generation will surely be a winner for herb, I bet many will do away with their home vape upgrade addiction if TET maintain 14.4/18.8mm ground joint compatibility :-D
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I think the popcorn might be for the drama that could descend upon us after the coupon is redeemed.
"Possibly"....
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