Discontinued VapeXhale Cloud

[vorrange]

Yeah, I aim for the 2-3 hit load, and must have already loaded it, then walked away and forgot...came back and loaded it again its been a cloudy halloween so far Glad to offer my words.

What do you think would be a 2-3 hit load in mg? Is it like an Arizer Solo half bowl? SliM mentioned 0,2-0,25 per ELB, SM mentioned he hits his ELBs at 25%, meaning 0,005g and it gets him 2 good rips.

Also, i hear a lot of people who have Clouds saying they can't replicate the high they get with the VXC compared to other vaporizers. This is very intriguing for me. What is so different? Is it how high? Or how fast you get high? Or, how long?

Or is it the combination of flavour and thickness of the hit? Let's say, the physical aspects of the hit.

 

[Stu]

What do you think would be a 2-3 hit load in mg? Is it like an Arizer Solo half bowl? SliM mentioned 0,2-0,25 per ELB, SM mentioned he hits his ELBs at 25%, meaning 0,005g and it gets him 2 good rips.

Also, i hear a lot of people who have Clouds saying they can't replicate the high they get with the VXC compared to other vaporizers. This is very intriguing for me. What is so different? Is it how high? Or how fast you get high? Or, how long?

Or is it the combination of flavour and thickness of the hit? Let's say, the physical aspects of the hit.

25% ELB for me is about .08g. I usually load about .1 which is about a third full for my loose grind. It's tough to say how many hits that is due to several factors such as how big your hits are. Mine are relatively small, so I get about 8 hits from .1 before I dump the load. YMMV.

I don't think the Cloud can get anyone "higher" that other vapes. It's more about the ease in which you can get clean-tasting massive rips that irritate less than other vaporizers. So the overal vaping expierence (at least for me) is un-equaled by other weapons.

 

[vorrange]

25% ELB for me is about .08g. I usually load about .1 which is about a third full for my loose grind. It's tough to say how many hits that is due to several factors such as how big your hits are. Mine are relatively small, so I get about 8 hits from .1 before I dump the load. YMMV.

I don't think the Cloud can get anyone "higher" that other vapes. It's more about the ease in which you can get clean-tasting massive rips that irritate less than other vaporizers. So the overal vaping expierence (at least for me) is un-equaled by other weapons.

Thanks Stu,

So, how you are affected is not where the difference lies. It is more about the overall enjoyment of the session in itself?

It seems the biggest dificulty with vaporizing and vaporizers is achieving a tasty smooth hit without much thought of technique. When you say it is more about the ease to get the flavourfull hits without any of the typical harshness of big hits, do you mean that this kind of hit is much more difficult to replicate in other vaporizers or it is the Cloud that makes it much more easy?

 

[Stu]

Yeah, for me it's about the ease of this delivery method.

The combination of the VXC heater (perpetuheat I think it's called?) that can keep up with the temperature changes during a hit, and the water diffustion makes for hits that are both big AND smooth. "Big and Smooth" don't often go together when vaporizing, but they do with the Cloud. The hits don't get wispy during long rips, and yet the HT keeps those hits silky smooth.

The fact that there is really no technique to learn with the Cloud is just a bonus IMO.

 

[jambandphan03]

IMO I think it hits me harder, simply because I am getting so much vapor packed into one hit. Sometimes I jokingly say the cloud raped my lungs , because it's easy to pull a huge hit and not realize how full your lungs are getting until you clear it. It's the only vaporizer I've used that I can compare to the feeling of taking a dab from one hit.

 

[vorrange]

Yeah, for me it's about the ease of this delivery method.

The combination of the VXC heater (perpetuheat I think it's called?) that can keep up with the temperature changes during a hit, and the water diffustion makes for hits that are both big AND smooth. "Big and Smooth" don't often go together when vaporizing, but they do with the Cloud. The hits don't get wispy during long rips, and yet the HT keeps those hits silky smooth.

The fact that there is really no technique to learn with the Cloud is just a bonus IMO.

That is where the key lies, the ability to maintain the temperature constant by doing very small and quick adjustments.

With other vaporizers, if you want to maintain the temperature you have to use a slow draw, otherwise the air itself will cool the heater. So, you can have a regular speed draw and maintain the flow of vapour intake without worrying about any other constraints.

What i don't understand yet is how to keep the flavour for so long. Is it because there is no conduction ocurring or at least not in the amounts seen in other vaporizers? I tested vaped material with different vaporizers and i realized that some browning on the herb occurs without vapor formation. And usually this is more apparent in conduction based vaporizers.

IMO I think it hits me harder, simply because I am getting so much vapor packed into one hit. Sometimes I jokingly say the cloud raped my lungs , because it's easy to pull a huge hit and not realize how full your lungs are getting until you clear it. It's the only vaporizer I've used that I can compare to the feeling of taking a dab from one hit.

I first noticing that feeling of not realizing how full the hit was, when i first used my bong, problably because i did not feel the temperature and harshness in my throat as i usually did.

Never done dabs so i can't relate, it is on my vapour to do list, along with getting myself a Cloud.

 

[Stu]

That is where the key lies, the ability to maintain the temperature constant by doing very small and quick adjustments.

With other vaporizers, if you want to maintain the temperature you have to use a slow draw, otherwise the air itself will cool the heater. So, you can have a regular speed draw and maintain the flow of vapour intake without worrying about any other constraints.

What i don't understand yet is how to keep the flavour for so long. Is it because there is no conduction ocurring or at least not in the amounts seen in other vaporizers? I tested vaped material with different vaporizers and i realized that some browning on the herb occurs without vapor formation. And usually this is more apparent in conduction based vaporizers.

A very astute summary, vorrage.

And I concur with your hypothesis on taste vis-a-vis conduction.

 

[vaplexus]

I'm blowing my mind with the cloud. not just in using the cloud but also in what i have designed for it. its printing now. that's a hint. will update later when i have something to show.

here's another hint

Here is the result!

 

[notmyrealUSERname]

^that is so slick! please make more so i can have 2 sets - and im not kidding! ill send you a pm to work out the details if your cool with that...

how do you have a 3d printer? how long did those take to print?

 

[havealight101]

Nice work vapelux! I've cut up some 1/4" tubing into feet a while back. I didn't like the sound or feeling while setting it down.
The whip tubing added some flavor because its right next to the intake, so I boiled it for a while which helped
What material is that?

 

[Stu]

Those "Cloud shoes" look sweet, vaplexus. Do you plan on selling them? I'd love a set.

 

[vaplexus]

According to forum rules I am
not allowed to sell anything here unless I register as a commercial user.

It is ABS plastic and quite strong. I can print at a much finer layer height. I can also print in different colours. i was thinking neon green. i also just got today some plastic that looks like wood. cherry. and varying the heat changes the colour to simulate age rings. i need to practice with that though.

they work well. give more stability with a slightly wider footprint. also raises it up about 2mm for less restricted flow through the input if used on a table. and no slip or mark.

 

[pakalolo]

^that is so slick! please make more so i can have 2 sets - and im not kidding! ill send you a pm to work out the details if your cool with that...

how do you have a 3d printer? how long did those take to print?

Those "Cloud shoes" look sweet, vaplexus. Do you plan on selling them? I'd love a set.

According to forum rules I am
not allowed to sell anything here unless I register as a commercial user.

It is ABS plastic and quite strong. I can print at a much finer layer height. I can also print in different colours. i was thinking neon green. i also just got today some plastic that looks like wood. cherry. and varying the heat changes the colour to simulate age rings. i need to practice with that though.

they work well. give more stability with a slightly wider footprint. also raises it up about 2mm for less restricted flow through the input if used on a table. and no slip or mark.

The rule about selling in the forums is:

• No selling or soliciting items on the forum. The only exception is the Classifieds section, which is the only place on the forum you may mention items you may have for sale or trade. This includes messages in profiles, signatures, etc.

The next post about this gets an infraction.

 

[vaplexus]

Just so we are all clear, can you point out where solicitation has occurred. surely if people such as myself make cool and interesting accessories for our vapes and want to share them in this forum that would ok, right? as long as we arent selling or looking to sell them then the rule has been observed? im just not understanding why any other post about these feet would get an infraction unless a rule were actually broken? clarification would be good because plan to continue to explore making interesting accessories for my vapes and sharing the ideas here. 3D printers allow this kind of thing now. its not about selling.

mod note: The rule is: Public discussions of staff decisions are not permitted on the site. If you have any concerns or queries relating to a staff decision please take it up in private with a staff member.

There was also a warning about further posts on this. Infraction given.

 

[IAmKrazy2]

it's been a long time since i made a post. just wanted to say i still have two working VXC's here, both very early versions, and they are both runnning strong. it's going to be a cloudy afternoon. cheers.

 

[max]

i still have two working VXC's here, both very early versions, and they are both runnning strong.

Good to hear.

it's been a long time since i made a post

Two months. Not so long for us. Time flies when you're trying to keep up on a forum . Don't be such a stranger though.

 

[Johny Chaos]

Working from home 3 days a week the cloud really has become my best friend. Daily it surprises me on how little it takes to get there... Anyone on the fence needs to jump on over this thing is AMAZING!!! Best flavor ever, big hits at higher temps and it still shows no sign of charring. Get on it!

 

[JDSupreme]

I got some really good shit finally. Super thick, tasty clouds @ 930. They were a bit thin with the last batch that was so so but boooya now

The quality of herb makes such a difference

 

[Lou]

how much does the herb factor into how thick vapor production is? I.e. drying it, how fine the grind is etc.

 

[Calvin]

how much does the herb factor into how thick vapor production is? I.e. drying it, how fine the grind is etc.

I find that the finer the grind the thicker the vapour. This makes sense because as you expose more surface area by grinding you allow for more vaporization. As for how dry it is, I rarely notice a difference. I don't have a lot of variation in dryness so maybe someone else can expand on this.

Keep in mind that the thicker the vapour the faster the bowl will be spent.

A bowl that is filled with a loose grind will last longer than a bowl that is filled with a fine grind.

 

[JDSupreme]

I was mainly referring to potency but you can't really ever go wrong with a dry, fine grind

 

[Cannabinaut]

I'm not interested in buying them, but those feet are REALLY cool, Vaplexus. The no-slip and bottom clearance would be a welcome improvement. I love that with 3d printing tech you can design and manufacture your own accessories. It blows my mind. I'd love to see more of your personal creations.

Here's an idea for you to chew on: I was thinking about something with four similar feet, but for the top of the Cloud, exceeding the height of the gong joint to protect it and allow the Cloud to stand on its head. People using the Cloud with a bubbler or tube can stand it upside-down on their desk/table and don't have to flip it each time they put it on/take it off of their bubbler. Can you try to design something like that? Again, I'm not soliciting, just curious what is possible with this technology! I don't think that's against the rules.

Also, where did the pictures go? Did you remove them?

 

[b0]

I'm blowing my mind with the cloud. not just in using the cloud but also in what i have designed for it. its printing now. that's a hint. will update later when i have something to show.

here's another hint

Here is the result!

Pics not working here

 

[IAmKrazy2]

I used to buy a new vape every couple of months, always searching the next best thing. With the vxc, I stopped looking. Stil might get another volcano, it is a really easy way t vape in groups, and I wouldn't have to put one of my vxc's on the line. I was very interested in the oracle until it appeared they went out of business. Always tempted to get more glass, but if I'm vaping herb my vxc and solo will get me through anyting but balloon or bag use.

 

[Raf007]

My VXC early version is still working too and still make that tickling annoying sound....alas

Reading qome of the posts here I wonder if some of you guys tried an LSV to compare ?
(If I remember well you had an LSV IamKrazy2)

Because eventhough I really like the Cloud, I barely use it lately, actually it's at a FC member's place for when I visit.
YES, it gives good and uge hits if you want.
Maybe THE only vape that would allow a one hit or two hits max with a big load (there is the Supreme Vape though)...so I understand why you can compare with dabing in some extension.

But come on, taste wise and ease of use wise, imHe the LSV gives as good and maybe "better" results.
Ok, there is a slight learning curve to take the most out of it, but it's so much easier to handle.
Take a hit, put your bong and vaporizer down.
Not, take a hit, put your bong down, take the herb chamber out, then put your vape down.

Also there is less conduction because the WPA is in glass,there is only a screen, so the flavor stays longer.
Meaning that I can get more tasty clouds with my LSV than with my Cloud.

When the Cloud is at home I use it to take a one or two hit load, but mainly, I use the LSV because I want to conserve and have more puffs and flavor on a given amount. And you can get good size clouds with it, believe me