Dr. Plutonious
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So does no one know the estimated time before the devastator will be available for purchase on the website?
Discontinued VapeXhale Cloud
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MarcoPolo07
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I Understand You are one of the many Cheerleaders for this Product but "Obvious" only comes into play when I experience problems first hand..I haven't heard too many complaints on this thread probally due to your squad cheering so loudly that many jeering get drowned out..Regardless Ive never vaporized and as a medical card holder was looking for a healthier way than what I was used to so I took the leap..Now either way I'm at a loss and will be waiting on Vapexhale before further commentingYes, like any electronic product you buy, the Cloud will be "hit or miss." Your just buying a product, that has less customers, than say an iPod. So, out of the smaller group of customers, you stand a better chance of getting a defective unit. it happensBut, don't worry, VapeXhale always makes things right, when they need to be.
If it's obviously hit or miss, than you knew what you were getting into.
Mod note: You need to acquaint yourself with the section of the rules page that addresses being nice. This post tests it.
Purpl3_Haz3
On a Permanent Vakation
Yup.
I am what I am lol. AND, you never had to come here to comment about your issue. This thread wasn't created for folks to come and complain about their Cloud being broken upon arrival, etc. That's what the VapeXhale support portal is for. It was created for ALL discussion of the VapeXhale Cloud, even if that includes fan-boys and cheerleaders. Your likely to get a better result by contacting Vapexhale themselves, rather than the "cheer leaders." I really am sorry you had/are having a bad experience, but once again, not our fault.Edit* and even as a "cheer-leader," I'm one of the first to complain. Search this thread for posts by myself, about the Cloud Sleeve, for instance. I'll back up VXL, in aspects of their product working, etc, and I'll be opposed to them when I feel so...
Also, I feel that I was pretty nice, and polite, when you first posted about your issue. I tried, like many usually do, to help get people to the right place, to get their issue taken care of.
Sorry to hear you received a possibly defective Cloud
Slightly Medicated
(SliM) Iron Lungs
I am sure they will get back to you. They are a small group. I know their customer service is not open on the weekends. They do sometimes respond on the weekends, but not always. I can understand how it would be frustrating because you were hoping to use it as an early birthday present. I am sure they will do their best to get you sorted out and running properly ASAP. Hang in there, once you get a working unit all your troubles will melt away
mmafighterthe25
Well-Known Member
that was my concern when getting the cloud, id get a dud an send back from pennslyvania is not best. cant get most glass shipped here. they got tommy chong for that.
Dr. Plutonious
Well-Known Member
Also, for all of you posters who own a SSV in addition to the cloud, why do you prefer the cloud over the SSV?
I'm torn between getting a SSV or a Cloud
I'm torn between getting a SSV or a Cloud
mmafighterthe25
Well-Known Member
i have the ssv, extreme q, and the cloud. the cloud def gives bigger thick more flavorful hits. the ssv comes close but flavor wise cant touch cloud. you gotta crank ssv up high, an use semi alot of stuff to get it there.
Dr. Plutonious
Well-Known Member
I can deal with a lack of flavour quality, I was more interested in the size of hits and such. It seems like a cloud gives better hits than an SSV through glass does. But maybe that's just me.
Purpl3_Haz3
On a Permanent Vakation
StickStones, has posted info both recently, and a while back, comparing the SSV and Cloud. Search for his posts/ check the last couple pages.
T-Dub, and myself, posted VERY detailed info/links in the last couple pages. Here, did a little work for you, this time. post by t-dub, on filling/cleaning the showercap.
Edit*** This goes to everyone. Please read or search, before posting! All of your questions, and many more, are probably answered in this thread. If you don't find what your looking for, simply post, saying "I searched, but couldn't find info on _____ ______ _____" etc..., then ask your question. You'll be more likely to get a straight-up answer, rather than be told go figure it out yourself. The more searching/reading through the old thread, and this thread, the less crowded it will get, and things won't too much harder to find.
vaplexus
Well-Known Member
I disagree.... the only way I got customer service attention was to post here after using the VXH support system 3 times over 4 days. i had a feeling i'd have to use this forum to get attention but i decided to use the "official" channel first and give it a few days. they were not going to replace my double. so that's when i posted here and sure enough within a day another cloud guy contacts me by PM, validates the double is not right and that i will get a replacement but only in sequence of Swaggers production schedule which is unknown to me despite asking for estimation. anyway. it seems like the forum is the best place to get VHX love until they sort out their online customer support issues.
but... the issue seems to be resolved at least to the point of VXH/Swagger agreeing that my double is not right. but at the moment i am in limbo, without a replacement or a shipping label to send it back or an estimate for when the replacement will be ready.
but... the issue seems to be resolved at least to the point of VXH/Swagger agreeing that my double is not right. but at the moment i am in limbo, without a replacement or a shipping label to send it back or an estimate for when the replacement will be ready.
UpUpandAway
YWF
This post is waaaay overdue.
I was fortunate enough to stop by the vxc booth at the Kush Expo in LA. I met the man, the myth, the legend SliM and also got to try out some of the new glass.
Devastator+swagger double+cloud buddy=
As far as I'm concerned, the cloud buddy is a must-have.
I was fortunate enough to stop by the vxc booth at the Kush Expo in LA. I met the man, the myth, the legend SliM and also got to try out some of the new glass.
Devastator+swagger double+cloud buddy=
As far as I'm concerned, the cloud buddy is a must-have.
Slightly Medicated
(SliM) Iron Lungs
It was great to meet you there. Everyone I meet seemed really nice, and very enthusiastic about the cloud... which I would expect. It is really energizing to be around like minded people.
I think I agree the Devastator + Swagger Double + Cloud Buddy is probably the craziest in terms of cloud performance.
I think I agree the Devastator + Swagger Double + Cloud Buddy is probably the craziest in terms of cloud performance.
Purpl3_Haz3
On a Permanent Vakation
I bet! Someone mentioned something along the lines of, the devastator and a hydratube together, stripping too much flavor, etc, from the hit...I think, it would be a great way, however, to get a very large hit, and not have any of the typical ill effects, of harshness/heat, even if you sacrifice a little bit of vapor/flavor to condensation.
I know, when I filmed that extraction test yesterday, that when I hit the full ELB, my throat/lungs definitely took a little bit of a 'beating' per se. I could have hit it a little slower, but, I didn't really "rip it" and I got a giant Cloud. The hit was very very warm, and overly intense on the lungs/throat. Really, more so than a dab, IMO. I'm anxious to try the same thing, when I receive my GBD FC bubbler, as that should provide more ample diffusion for a larger hit. But, I really, really, would love to try out the devastator + any hydratube.
Also, I'm hoping that they release the Cloud Buddy, and the Cloud Sleeve sometime soon! Last week, Troi mentioned that they were just trying to figure out the logistics of getting everyone a Cloud sleeve, who requested one. I can't imagine this being too far out, as folks have been receiving Cloud sleeves with their Cloud packages for a little while now. It would be wonderful to see either or both of these items available in the VapeXhale store soon. These would be wonderful companions, as I could start using the Cloud more easily with other patients glass collections.
UpUpandAway
YWF
Totally agree.
I'm a bit embarrassed to admit it, but I couldn't even clear the chamber on my first pull. That Devastator combo humbled me to noob status.
I need to add that the Devastator is soooo fitting as a name; in terms of cloud production, medication ability, and visual design, this thing will fuck you up.
Edit: Oh yeah, and the reference to Transformers is pretty damn cool.
Ripbongs420
vapiff
Loving my Cloud :-). Hurricane is coming over here to NYC. Hopefully my power won't go out. I got two days off to get reacquainted with my Cloud. I love this thing. Yesterday i took a 3 hour nap. LOL
I'm more inland but we are still going to get slammed. Im terrified of the idea having to go without my little ticking monster.
webb
Level 100 Lurker
If I may interject...
Although I haven't been posting everyday about how I feel about my cloud, I adore it.
It really does give a full hit and smoking experience and can kick your ass if you want it to.
I have both the SSV and the Cloud, and my preference is the Cloud.
The density, flavor, and overall vaporizing experience is better with the Cloud, in my opinion.
sunsett70
Member
Someone with a silver surfer should post a video, of this small of an amount of flower being vaped...
i don't know about the left (min amt loaded) but for my dbv, i loaded about the same as the 2nd from left. I'd use the elb cover, and then insert the cover into the DBV wand, and i could get many sips if the herb was good. think the cloud would be more convenient though, and easier to vape evenly if what i hear is correct. but the ssv/dbv seem to have less electronic parts, hence less likely to break down (my personal opinion).
Purpl3_Haz3
On a Permanent Vakation
I can pack that amount, and get several good hits too. I just did it all in one hit for the video. But, once in a great great while, I put a GONG 18mm donwstem on the Cloud, with an ELB about that size packed, and sip it. I get several good tasting hits, very potent (minimal airpath, about 3-4") due to minimal condensation.
One thing that a lot of combusters seem to say, is that it takes too long, to vape, what you could smoke in half the time or less. With the Cloud, I can put that myth to shame. I have yet to have a combuster be able to say, this takes too long. Every time I've showed the Cloud to someone, it's been ready to vape, with a bowl packed, far before I can get done explaining things about it/giving a general education on the do's/dont's and a few things to expect, for vapor noobs. So, before they get a chance to complain, they're hitting the Cloud. It usually takes one hit, anywhere from a 1/4 full to all the way full ELB, at 11, 12 or 1, and the smile comes on, followed by that nasty cough that comes from combusting. (takes a while to clear that crap out...vapor helps, if you cease smoking as well.)
So, yes, in that video, I exemplified how you can really get the most out of your meds, in one hit. But, The Cloud is most definitely possible of the opposite, for anyone who wants to stretch it out. Either by using as small of a load as possible, like I did in the first ELB, and packing them few and far between, or packing larger ELBs, and hitting them sparingly, etc. So, you can look at this one of two ways. Some would read your post, and say, "who would want to spend forever using that little of an amount of weed?" (more of a combusters mentality, but not always. See below paragraph.) Where as some would say, "wow, that's efficient! I would burn through that so quick in a pipe!"
When I first started vaping, I was blown away at how my usage was cut in half. I was having long, stoney, effectively medicating sessions, with minimal flower, and still leaving goodies behind to cook! For others, like myself now-a-days, this isn't practical. Look at someone like Slightly Medicated. He, like many others, don't have time to sit and vape bowl after bowl, or hit after hit on one bowl. For them, being able to get out everything in one hit, that it takes you several hits to get, is a huge benefit. SliM mentions here numerous times, that he utilizes the Clouds extraction power, to medicated less often. He stops in to his Cloud, hits a .25g elb, and is back to doing life. No need to sit and vape, and vape, and vape. Sometimes sitting, and enjoying is nice, other times, it's not doable.
Moral of the Cloudy story? You don't have to take giant rips, just because it's incredibly easy, tasty, fun, and efficient. Sometimes, it's necessary to get it all, in one hit. Think of nausea, etc...
newVaper420
Vapor Enthusiast
I have to say, even though I have to turn off my unit twice before it starts, (it's a kind of ritual now, LOL), my unit works so well. It's truly an engineering marvel :-). I'm unclear as to why I have to shut it off twice, it doesn't make sense, but whatever LOL. Anyhow, the point of this, is that my GonG joint on my Cloud unit is so perfect, all my ELBs fit ridiculously easy in them. My first unit was ok, my second unit was really really really tight, and this unit fits them all in no problems. It's perfect!
That makes the experience so much easier in my opinion (rather than to have to fight with getting the ELB in). I've used 6 different ELBs already (I have a lot). :-)
That makes the experience so much easier in my opinion (rather than to have to fight with getting the ELB in). I've used 6 different ELBs already (I have a lot). :-)
Purpl3_Haz3
On a Permanent Vakation
Maybe that's one of the things keeping VXL from being able to get just the right sized ELBs...a variance in the Cloud's ground joints ID? Who knows.
I've got four that fit great, slide in and out like butter. Or at least I did have. I went to pack my final ELB for the evening, and decided rather than do a two cap with kief, I'd just pour some kief in the ELB. It was a almost dirty enough to be cleaned ( I don't like to use them once you can see a visible build up. I clean them thoroughly after each use (1 hit) with the E-Pik, and they get about 7-14 uses (hits) before they go in ISO.) So I figured I'll just vape some kief in it, and then empty it/chuck it in the ISO.
I filled the ELB about 1/3 the way, and stuck it in the Cloud. The Cloud was heated up at ~2:30 temp. I put the hydratube on and took a long hit; nothing fast, but not slow. Enough for the Circ to fire nice and rapidly. I couldn't finish the hit, so I pulled the HT off to clear. I removed the ELB and sat it on the table. I noticed out of the corner of my eye, that there was thick smoke coming out of the ELB! I was like WTF, and without thinking, I blew at it. Obviously, this caused the kief to cherry up. So, thinking a little more clearly, I thought, this probably won't happen again. So I grabbed my iphone and shot a quick video of the cherried ELB, before running with it (held in my E-Pik cause it was hottttt!) to the bathroom sink, to extinguish it properly.
That all being said, I'm assuming it combusted do to the following reasons: My kief is sticky-ish. It clumps together. You've probably seen this in my two cap video, and the my stash thread. The other reason, is the cloud being at 2:30 temp. I think that the kief must of clumped together tightly under the ELB, and created too much heat. I didn't taste smoke at all, and my HT smells like vaped kief/flower. I think it started combusting right when I pulled the HT off. I was inhaling steadily until after I removed the HT. Regardless of why it happened, I'm a little bummed. My room stinks of combustion, and I have a blackened ELB. It is blackened just below where the bottom of the cap comes to, and only down a little. The top and bottom thirds of the ELB are un-burnt, only the mid section. This is evidence that the kief got stuck right under the cap. After rinsing the ELB to put out the cherry, and then air drying it a bit, I opened it, to get a little black resin/ash mix, goopy from the water. Yuck.
Here is the quick video I shot of the ELB. I blew on it in the video to show the cherry. You can clearly see the smoke/cherry. The video is short, I wanted to get a quick one, but mainly needed to stop the smoke/smell. I hate it
Off to bed now.
Thing is... this is a forum. So even if the cheer core was there; nothing is drowned out. Do some reading and get an idea as to how happy 98% of owners have been with their unit; and you will also see posts from the 2% that had an issue. There's no reason to be at a loss, when all the information is right at your fingertips. But at least your being cautious; which is more than could be said for most new vaporists who usually buy the first thing labelled "vaporizer" they see.
b0
Cloudy...
Hi people! I'm one of those guys waiting for the european version, really jealous of you all with a cloud lol
I have a couple questions, hope you can answer it. Is there a way to know exactly at what temperature works the cloud in each position? I remember reading somewhere than every cloud had little diferences in their temperature. It's combustion posible at full temperature? I'm a medical user with asthma and want to avoid any smoke.
Also want to know your opinion about my Hydratube choice. Here where I live there isn't any tradition with bongs, in fact I'm the only one of my friend that always loved using them. Reight now I have an Iolite and when I'm in my house I always use it in my ice bong, much better and soft hits that way. Well, I have decided to buy a Swagger, but not sure if a circ or tree. What are the diferences between the circ and the tree?
Thanks for the help guys, I'm still a noob when it's about glass.
I have a couple questions, hope you can answer it. Is there a way to know exactly at what temperature works the cloud in each position? I remember reading somewhere than every cloud had little diferences in their temperature. It's combustion posible at full temperature? I'm a medical user with asthma and want to avoid any smoke.
Also want to know your opinion about my Hydratube choice. Here where I live there isn't any tradition with bongs, in fact I'm the only one of my friend that always loved using them. Reight now I have an Iolite and when I'm in my house I always use it in my ice bong, much better and soft hits that way. Well, I have decided to buy a Swagger, but not sure if a circ or tree. What are the diferences between the circ and the tree?
Thanks for the help guys, I'm still a noob when it's about glass.
newVaper420
Vapor Enthusiast
1. No, there is not a way to tell which temperature it is. It is said the 12 O'Clock is around 400 degrees Fahrenheit. The Cloud should never combust even at Max temperature. However, if it does happen, then you just need to lower the dial. If combustion happens when your knob is at 12 O'Clock then, I think you have a problem. I had to send my unit in for this.
2. Difference in tubes is really personal preference. Some people say the Showercap has the best flavor, the Double has the most diffusion. The differences between the circ and tree are variations in drag slightly. (I believe anyhow). I have the Evolver HydraTree picked out because my wife liked the way it looked :-).