Discontinued VapeXhale Cloud

Troi

Well-Known Member
I've looked through many pages here, the wiki, and faq (non-existent, or down atm) have not seen the answer to why you cannot purchase the cloud unit alone (without a hydratube). I'm sure it has been answered multiple times, either here or in the intro thread, but cannot find it. :huh:

Please call the number on our website, were actually holding some late hours this evening, I can help you with a manual order for purchasing a cloud stand alone, and will be happy to explain why its not currently available on the website.
 

Sinclue

OK disagree with me, I can't force you to be right
Tips:

For filling with repeatable, measurable results, an oral syringe, $2.49 @ Walgreens w/bottle adapter & cleaning brush is helpful:


For cleaning you can blow the water out from the bottom or try making one of these flush hoses, my thread with video here:


I remember your posts now (amazingly enough).

How many CCs have you settled on as a good starting amount?

Did figure out to try blowing it out from the bottom just before I saw your post. Like the flush system. I think I might have a hose with the right diameter to fit directly in the bottom without the cork, but I'll have to check. Thanks for the tips/reminders.
 
Sinclue,

ishness

Member
Hey all. First time poster and interested Cloud buyer! I own an EQ but have been getting dry throat a lot lately, been reading this thread and am quite intrigued. One question I couldn't seem to find answered; how is the smell from the vapour? The one big advantage I went vape for was being able to hit the vape in the house without getting static from the Mrs. The cloud seems to get such dense vapour, so I was wondering how dank it smells!
 
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MarcoPolo07

Member
After reading this forum I went ahead and ordered cloud..Was Happy to see my package ordered Wed Arriving today and quickly got to it,But to no avail..It started to heat up then simply got cold..lights work but it will no longer turn to green nor heat.WTF!! Has Any one else has had this problem ...
 
MarcoPolo07,

Purpl3_Haz3

On a Permanent Vakation
After reading this forum I went ahead and ordered cloud..Was Happy to see my package ordered Wed Arriving today and quickly got to it,But to no avail..It started to heat up then simply got cold..lights work but it will no longer turn to green nor heat.WTF!! Has Any one else has had this problem ...

Sorry to hear you received a possibly defective Cloud :( Your best bet would be to submit a support ticket, on the Vapexhale website :tup:
 

SD_haze

Well-Known Member
Hey all. First time poster and interested Cloud buyer! I own an EQ but have been getting dry throat a lot lately, been reading this thread and am quite intrigued. One question I couldn't seem to find answered; how is the smell from the vapour? The one big advantage I went vape for was being able to hit the vape in the house without getting static from the Mrs. The cloud seems to get such dense vapour, so I was wondering how dank it smells!
The giant dense clouds you see in the videos indeed smell extremely strong. Even using a sploof (which still shoots vapor out unlike activated carbon) there can be some THC smell in the room.

The more bud you're vaping, the hotter the temp is set, the stronger the smell.
So if smell is a concern, you can pack small bowls at low temperature and hold them a decent length. This, along with the "Supreme Vaporizer" are the only vapes where you might need a smokebuddy (or other activated carbon device) if you have serious smell concerns.


Unrelated note:
I've been getting FANTASTIC results taking a very small glass jar and combining some ratio of (kief :: ground herb). Right now I have one jar thats 70 herb/30 kif and another thats more 50/50.

Loading the mixture directly in the ELB doesn't seem to be dirtying it too much extra.
 

Purpl3_Haz3

On a Permanent Vakation
I've been getting FANTASTIC results taking a very small glass jar and combining some ratio of (kief :: ground herb). Right now I have one jar thats 70 herb/30 kif and another thats more 50/50.

Loading the mixture directly in the ELB doesn't seem to be dirtying it too much extra.
I always try to keep some kief on hand, to vape, etc...but I found another use for it. I was given probably a couple grams of some not so tasty flower a while back, from a friend. I didn't want to be rude and say no, when offered two grams of free flower. So, when I got home, I loaded up an elb, with a decent hit worth of this mystery flower. It only took the primer draw to tell that it wasn't going to be tasty. After that hit, I almost didn't wanna touch the stuff again. It didn't seem all that 'dank' looking, and the taste, while not offensive, was definitely nothing to write home about.

Then, it struck me...I've got this little container with a bunch of tasty kief in it! So, I sprinkled a bunch on top of the ground up mystery stuff. BAM, instant better tasting, more effective flower. This was before I thought of the two cap method, so it was a good way for me to vape the kief without making a mess. But, unless I happen upon unpleasant flowers again, I'll probably stick to the two cap. Though, I may have to grind up something, and give it a little extra kief, for the heck of it, now that you mention it. I really should try a 50/50 mix sometime!
 
Purpl3_Haz3,

MarcoPolo07

Member
Sorry to hear you received a possibly defective Cloud :( Your best bet would be to submit a support ticket, on the Vapexhale website :tup:
Yea...Just had anticipated so much..It now just blinks green and red ..still no heat..Oh well hopefully the next one makes me a believer
 
MarcoPolo07,

psyshaman

Vapor Viking
With a risk of asking a question that has probably been asked many times before? How is VXC travelling in regard to over seas sales? Specifically 220v Australian versions of the cloud....

I know its not easy and there are probably plenty of hoops to jump through but the extra wait long after most have received their presale units is hard... Tempted to try to get my hands on a US 120v unit and use my big inverter I have sitting here...

Any news would be appreciated greatly :) I've avoided this thread for so long because I want one bad! haha!
 

Purpl3_Haz3

On a Permanent Vakation
After reading this forum I went ahead and ordered cloud..Was Happy to see my package ordered Wed Arriving today and quickly got to it,But to no avail..It started to heat up then simply got cold..lights work but it will no longer turn to green nor heat.WTF!! Has Any one else has had this problem ...
Wait, your not talking about the auto shut off are you?
Come to think of it, they never mentioned how long it "started to heat" before it "went cold."

With a risk of asking a question that has probably been asked many times before? How is VXC travelling in regard to over seas sales? Specifically 220v Australian versions of the cloud....

I know its not easy and there are probably plenty of hoops to jump through but the extra wait long after most have received their presale units is hard... Tempted to try to get my hands on a US 120v unit and use my big inverter I have sitting here...

Any news would be appreciated greatly :) I've avoided this thread for so long because I want one bad! haha!

I was just looking at the Vapexhale facebook fan page, and they posted an older un-boxing link...someone commented asking about the 220v version...this was the comment convo...

VapeXhale Facbeook said:

  • Borja Alsina - European unit for Christmas?
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    15 hours ago · Like

  • VapeXhale Fan Page - Not for mass release but we will see if we can put together a limited run of 220V units for our European friends.
    13 hours ago · Like · 1

  • Borja Alsina - Thanks guys, keep up your awesome work
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    13 hours ago · Like · 1

  • Jason Tassell - limited run for your aussie mates and long time supporters too? Its usually stinkin hot and dry here round xmas, some clouds would be welcome!
    8 hours ago via mobile · Edited · Like
I assume this is fine to post here, as it's public on facebook.
 

Ripbongs420

vapiff
Come to think of it, they never mentioned how long it "started to heat" before it "went cold."

I was just thinking why it would go green at all if it didn't heat up. I might be wrong but I think I remember someone who had a cloud that wouldn't heat that just stayed red. I mean when you hear, blinks green and red, thats the most obvious answer I feel. Hopefully thats all.

Ps. I'm two cappin' right now. :tup:
 

Seek

Apprentice Daydreamer
Limited run of 220s for christmas? For international preorders i suppose? That would be fantastic. If there will be warranty for these and me on the list I would jump on it probably.
I am still thinking about the failure rate. I know it seems much worse on a forum than in reality, there are people who needed warranty more than once. But these were rare cases right? Especially when there are thousands of Clouds already out there, so it's normal to expect even these extremes. I've also read here somewhere that one member had warrantied a Cloud 4 times in a row. If there is 1 in X failure rate, than probability for that would be 1 in X^4. More bad luck than probability predicts (or higher failure rate or much more sold units than I think).
I don't want anything more than getting a perfect Cloud, getting a DOA is sure a nightmare and the main reason why I haven't bought the US version. I've been saving for almost two years (and still not done yet), that's even longer than the Cloud warranty. If it died by itself, it would define a new level of being screwed. Has anyone seen the devil around here? I want to subscribe my soul to him so my Cloud arrives perfect.
 
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ishness

Member
And while I'm a new poster, let me second the sentiment on being interested in a run for the aussies..
 
ishness,

jambandphan03

in flavor country
Usually, if I were to run into this much trouble making a little movie, I'd give up. But, I just had to go and volunteer myself! :lol:


So, I didn't want to be "that guy," to promise and not deliver. I try not to do that at least.

Sorry, again, for the delay. I hope this video/these pics, will help show people that the Cloud really is phenomenally effective at extracting the cannabinoids from our flowers, with minimal, even browning, and from even the smallest amounts of flower!

Fresh bud at the bottom of the pic for comparison...

Someone with a silver surfer should post a video, of this small of an amount of flower being vaped...

Just wanted to thank you for all your efforts in getting this example made. It is a very good way to show how you can not only be conserative, but how well this vape works, from little loads to a full one. I was impressed at how even and toasted that full ELB was from one hit. I am now trying to use a bit less for my daily use, and just load more when I feel I need the kick or just want the bigger cloud. I have to admit, I do enjoy milking the shit out of my bubbler. :haw:
 

stickstones

Vapor concierge
nice vid and pics, purp...I'm sure you were ripped from that experiment! So do you always only take one hit form your elb's? When I first started testing the Cloud I would hit every ELB 12 times just to see how it went. As long as the temp was static, I never got a bad taste and could still feel effect from the later, whispy hits. I'd be real surprised if the smallest load gave another visible hit, but I was also surprised at how much you got from it at all...I never did one that small. I think my PD stem loads were more than that.

Regarding the ELB inside the SSV wand...I don't think this would work. I think the reason the Cloud can extract from smaller loads is that the ELB allows some of the air to travel through the sides of the ELB, and not just hit the herb from the bottom (also why I get evenly browned loads without stirring). The SSV can't do this and inserting the ELB into the want would eliminate this feature of the ELB.

I remember a while back before there was a Cloud, and the SSV was the concensus heavey hitter. The question then was how the SSV was able to hit harder than the DBV (although the difference was small, I think). Max pointed out that the small hole of the SSV heater cover allowed a more narrow and concentrated air path, similar to a log vape. It seems to me that the ELB keeps this narrow airpath intact while also allowing airflow from the sides, which makes it able to extract better from smaller loads and keep everything evenly toasted.

poop...before you break out that SSV, give the Cloud a run at smaller loads!
 

oldiebutgoodie

Apostle, Church of Vaporization
. . . It seems to me that the ELB keeps this narrow airpath intact while also allowing airflow from the sides, which makes it able to extract better from smaller loads and keep everything evenly toasted . . .

Seems to me an alternate (or additional?) explanation could be the turbulence in the ELB, which IIRC we discussed in the first Cloud thread. I notice after a hit that the herb is distributed all around the inside of the ELB, and that it's not concentrated at the top (as one might expect with just a strong direct air push, like e.g. happens with the Q's elbow-screen). I suspect it's the herb/air being violently "mixed" together by the turbulence that results in maximum contact and hence extraction, which would also argue for smaller is better.
 

Pappy

shmaporist
Seems to me an alternate (or additional?) explanation could be the turbulence in the ELB, which IIRC we discussed in the first Cloud thread. I notice after a hit that the herb is distributed all around the inside of the ELB, and that it's not concentrated at the top (as one might expect with just a strong direct air push, like e.g. happens with the Q's elbow-screen). I suspect it's the herb/air being violently "mixed" together by the turbulence that results in maximum contact and hence extraction, which would also argue for smaller is better.
:myday:
Gonna try smaller load for sake of science.
 

Purpl3_Haz3

On a Permanent Vakation
Small loads FTW :rockon:
nice vid and pics, purp...I'm sure you were ripped from that experiment! So do you always only take one hit form your elb's? When I first started testing the Cloud I would hit every ELB 12 times just to see how it went. As long as the temp was static, I never got a bad taste and could still feel effect from the later, whispy hits. I'd be real surprised if the smallest load gave another visible hit, but I was also surprised at how much you got from it at all...I never did one that small. I think my PD stem loads were more than that.
Yeah sticks, I probably could get more from my flower, by re-hitting it, but I find that so far, I'm equally satisfied with one hit on a bowl in the Cloud, with the extras remaining in my ABV, as I would be if I were vaping it fully, and leaving less, or nothing, in the ABV. I was definitely medicated after that session!

@jambandphan, I too am always surprised at how evenly I can vape loads, now matter how full! While I've never hit an ELB quite that full before, when I have shown the Cloud to a stubborn combuster or two, I pack the ELB almost as full as I did in the video, and give them a hit at just below noon. This seems to get the flavor across the table nicely, and set them on their asses in a way vapor never has.
:myday:
Gonna try smaller load for sake of science.
"In the name of science." I kept saying that to myself yesterday, as I got closer and closer to that giant ELB :lol:
 

newVaper420

Vapor Enthusiast
Loving my Cloud :-). Hurricane is coming over here to NYC. Hopefully my power won't go out. I got two days off to get reacquainted with my Cloud. I love this thing. Yesterday i took a 3 hour nap. LOL :)
 

MarcoPolo07

Member
I was just thinking why it would go green at all if it didn't heat up. I might be wrong but I think I remember someone who had a cloud that wouldn't heat that just stayed red. I mean when you hear, blinks green and red, thats the most obvious answer I feel. Hopefully thats all.

Ps. I'm two cappin' right now. :tup:
Only heated up the once then quit after 5 min...Doesn't heat at all anymore and it blinks 3 red then 2 green I believe auto shut off is the opposite...Seems crazy to spend nearly 600 $$ for something that is obviously hit or miss...Hopefully when I get ahold of them on Monday,Theyll make it right.My Birth day in a few days and this was an early present for myself :mad::cuss::bang:
 
MarcoPolo07,

Purpl3_Haz3

On a Permanent Vakation
Only heated up the once then quit after 5 min...Doesn't heat at all anymore and it blinks 3 red then 2 green I believe auto shut off is the opposite...Seems crazy to spend nearly 600 $$ for something that is obviously hit or miss...Hopefully when I get ahold of them on Monday,Theyll make it right.My Birth day in a few days and this was an early present for myself :mad::cuss::bang:

Yes, like any electronic product you buy, the Cloud will be "hit or miss." Your just buying a product, that has less customers, than say an iPod. So, out of the smaller group of customers, you stand a better chance of getting a defective unit. it happens :\ But, don't worry, VapeXhale always makes things right, when they need to be.

Seems crazy to spend nearly 600 $$ for something that is obviously hit or miss...
If it's obviously hit or miss, then you knew what you were getting into. Either way, reading the Cloud threads should tell you one thing, regardless of defect rates, the customer ends up with a fully functioning Cloud.

I cannot recall how many posts I have seen (probably some by myself) by folks ranting at VXL for any number of reasons, trivial/justified or not. Only to come back, a short while later, to apologize for said rant/ thank or praise VXL for fixing the issue/confusion, and providing an amazing cannabis consumption method.
 
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