philosopher

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I never quite understood the appeal of the SSV. In fact, I have one sitting in the corner of my closet, waiting to be sold. I got the Plenty to replace the SSV primarily because it puts out more vapor without the risk of combustion. In order to get big hits off the SSV, I'd have to crank the heat and stir constantly, and sometimes I'd end up combusting the bowl. Maybe I never quite got the technique for it, but I never liked it.
 
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Raf007

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Woahhh...I know dozens of SSV users, most of them new to vaping, and only one combusted. Despite my warning that on the wrong setting that could happen as warns the manual because this is designed to be so.
I get the risk of combustion -eventhough imHo it's really really easy to avoid- but not the bigger hits, I think I might have to get the plenty ouf of its box to re-compare, but in my memory the hits were certainly not heavier than what I get with my SSV.
Plus the Plenty percolates like crazy, if you are low on weed, the herb hog aspect can be a downer.
 
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elmomuzz

That just happened...
I had a chance to smoke out a few friends yesterday with both the cloud and plenty. Several varieties of high quality medicine was present. We first used the cloud. Everyone was floored by it. One guy even almost passed out from trying to take to long a hit. lol

But then we tried the plenty. One thing everyone remarked was how good the flavor was. In fact every single person agreed that the plenty had superior taste over the cloud.

I then asked which they preferred. They really liked the knock you on your ass aspect of the cloud and how it didn't need very much herb for a good hit but they loved the bold and flavorful hits from the plenty as well. I would say it was a toss up. I'm glad I own both. :):):)
 

Raf007

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F...C it, I am taking the Plenty out of its box.

Edit 22min later apparently.

Seriously it's a match with KO imHo ! The SSV knocks down the Plenty like Muhammed Ali would knock down Ali G.
The SSV tastes wayyyy better, and the puffs are more dense with the same small amount of less than 0.1g.

And you can foresee that just by drawing trough an empty SSV whip and then trough an empty Plenty spirale/mouthpiece.

Of course if you are using your Cloud with water you are losing taste, but that's the water effect not the Cloud.
 
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philosopher

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That is interesting, as I was never able to get impressively big clouds from the SSV... then again, I am not stingy with how much I put in, and usually put like 0.3-0.5g in at a time. I think the main reason why the FC forum hasn't taken to the Plenty is because you need to load the bowl up to get good hits, much more than with other vaporizers - it's one of the Plenty's quirks.

In my experience, once you load it up fully, it is good for several sessions/rotations, and the amount you put in is offset by how long it lasts - once I load it up fully, I have enough vapor to last me the whole day if I'm vaping by myself. I just turn it off when I'm done and detach the heating element from the bowl - whenever I am ready to resume, I just start it up again and put it back together. Even with this caveat though, I don't think it's as efficient as rival vaporizers - I'd say just about average as far as vapes go - and I think this is probably why it won't catch on with the crowd here.
 

ugobo

Active Member
The Plenty is the first vaporizer that i bought and i still like it a lot but i mostly use it on weekends with friends. And yes,it takes a lot of material to get optimum results. The thermostat knob is a bit annoying and could have been better i think. The design doesn't bother me but i wish the thing could stand by itself in a upright position. The rest of the week i use my lovely viVape...

I cleaned the cooling coil of the Plenty for the second time now and this time with satisfying results! Storz & Bickel recommend to soak the cooling coil in ISO in a glass for hours. What i did is i've put a piece of cellophane wrap at one end tighten with an elastic. Put the coil in a glass to prevent leak and fill the coil slowly with ISO. Seal the top end of the coil,tighten with an elastic and let it stay for three-five hours. Rinse and dry. Et voila!!!
 

GReYAReA

Amid The Vapors...
I get a lot more legs off each bowl by detaching the top slightly before I've ended my hit. The extra bit of fresh air you draw in at the end cools it down immediately so you don't have any more radiated vapor.

It is a very good vaporizer... still waiting on the Cloud to compare though.
 
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elmomuzz

That just happened...
This has been my favorite method lately.

plenty_cloud.jpg
 

ugobo

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I just got a AquaVape and i want to try this for sure! What is that thing you used to joint them together? I wanted to try the AquaVape on the Plenty with a whip...

Any leaks with this set up? I sometimes have drops falling in my vV's whip and i would'nt want to cause a short circuit with the Plenty! Very nice...
 

elmomuzz

That just happened...
It mates with a standard 18mm glass on glass joint. It's not a tight fit but no leaks. You can form a vacuum. My favorite combo is using it with a elcheapo 24" tube with diffusing stem. Monster hits that are seemingly endless. The cloud can't do that. :D
 

sageman

Member
This is my third week with the plenty. Overall I think the quality of vapor is tied with the evolution v7 vaporizer. It is my second favorite vaporizer, only because of the crummy design. The shape of the plenty is very strange. Also, it gets annoying to have to press the clicker every time you want to re-heat the unit. I have tied a little piece of paracord around the "trigger" and it has not caused any damage yet... not sure if I feel safe enough to leave it on (could damage the mechanism?). Despite what some people have been saying, I pack the plenty with small amounts and it is still effective. I just bought a beaker bottom water pipe to use with the plenty. I just place the nozzle of the chamber into the water device tube (18mm) and it works well. For herbal oils I use the hose with two silicon pieces at the end of the tube. The hits with the plenty are not always thick, but for me, vapor density does not matter as much as vapor quality, because I suffer from lung ailments.

Has anyone thought of a better substance to hold oils then the stainless wire disks that came with the Plenty? Even though I hold the unit upright, the oil will slide under the corners of the screen and make a mess.
 
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Supyo

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I love this unit. I had mine for about 1 month and I am amazed how good it works. I too use very small amounts and the liquid pad works fine. I keep putting smaller quantities in to see just how small I can go. The design doesn't bother me too much. I actually like the rugged look. . It can definitely take a beating and there are no fragile parts to break like most other vapes. I'm sure this will be my daily driver for several years to come so I'm not to concerned with the one time hefty price.
 
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ckannaSr

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Hey All -- Just got it yesterday. I LOVE it! (I hope it's alright to yell just this once) The only con I find is the amount of herb it takes even using the liquid pad trick. I'm learning, though, how to make my sessions last--I often like a slow and easy ascent. I've used a few temp settings and am favoring between 5-6.

I've been using my rockZap and MFLB which require more "draw-effort" so I've had to cut back to more of a sip with this. I'ts a wonder I didn't knock myself out on my first Go.:D

I'm looking forward to reading about different techniques and experiences. Someone earlier made the comment about this forum having so few pages and now my responding thought is that all those people who didn't get themselves a Plenty and then post here ?? -- I feel sad for them for what they're missing out on!

I hope we're not going to become Edsels. But that's ok -- if it happens I'll be stocking up on Plenty's replacement parts and "till death doth us part."

There is no comparison... I have both and the cloud out preforms the Plenty in every single way.


How about warranties? Been reading on their forum about a few performance problems with the Clouds .
I was choosing between Cloud and Plenty and have been reading both forums over the last week or so. As a matter of fact, I made a decision and then changed it a time or two. I think the warranty and customer service issues were strong factors in my decision to go with the Plenty and I'm so glad I did. Well, it's a good thing -- each of us happy with our own particular "Wellness Machine."
 

max

Out to lunch
^ Fixed your quote box. Tip- [quote ] starts a quote, and [/quote ] ends it. The space between 'e' and ']' is just there so the quote effect doesn't happen.
 
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Slightly Medicated

(SliM) Iron Lungs
How about warranties? Been reading on their forum about a few performance problems with the Clouds .
I was choosing between Cloud and Plenty and have been reading both forums over the last week or so. As a matter of fact, I made a decision and then changed it a time or two. I think the warranty and customer service issues were strong factors in my decision to go with the Plenty and I'm so glad I did. Well, it's a good thing -- each of us happy with our own particular "Wellness Machine."

This is my feeling on it... S&B has never once came in this thread or the forum to talk to it's customer base. On the other hand The Cloud manufacture is on here with his customer service team every day. I would rather buy a product from a team of people who are around to support the issues, than buy a product form a company that does not hang around to support the community. I tried to write S&B a few times when I had questions. Their communication left something to be desired. I also don't like that employees of S&B have been on this board spreading false rumors about other products. Also I think the reason you hear more about performance issues in the cloud versus the plenty is ALLOT more poeple on this forum post in that thread. This plenty thread hardly ever gets posts. The pool/number of people who would report an issue with the Cloud is bigger then the Plenty. :2c:
 
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ugobo

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The Plenty is the first vaporizer i ever bought. Got a MFLB,vV and now a T1 since then. I now hardly ever use the Plenty anymore because of the quantity of herb required to obtain optimum results. I only use it when i have friends with me. Then it's well worth it!

I think the Plenty is a very effective device. Extremely solid construction along with the "feeling" of operating a powerful and safe device make it a very pleasant experience i believe. I recently gave a new life to my Plenty by removing the cooling coil then fit the glass mouthpiece of the vV with it's whip and the AquaVape. All i have to say about this is WOW WOW WOW!!! I now have a very powerful portable desktop vaporizer!!! I like it very much! Maybe it has something to do with the fact that i don't hold the Plenty in my hand. It's a completely different experience.

Ok. I think i'll set this up and watch the olympics now...
 

diddymao

aint no party like a diddy party
The Plenty is the first vaporizer that i bought and i still like it a lot but i mostly use it on weekends with friends. And yes,it takes a lot of material to get optimum results. The thermostat knob is a bit annoying and could have been better i think. The design doesn't bother me but i wish the thing could stand by itself in a upright position. The rest of the week i use my lovely viVape...

I cleaned the cooling coil of the Plenty for the second time now and this time with satisfying results! Storz & Bickel recommend to soak the cooling coil in ISO in a glass for hours. What i did is i've put a piece of cellophane wrap at one end tighten with an elastic. Put the coil in a glass to prevent leak and fill the coil slowly with ISO. Seal the top end of the coil,tighten with an elastic and let it stay for three-five hours. Rinse and dry. Et voila!!!
put the wooden end of the brush into the bottom right hand screw hole on the side opposite to the power switch, instant tripod
 

ugobo

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Nice find diddymao! Just tried it and will find something else permanent to go in there to keep the Plenty upright.
The herbs will hopefuly stays in place that way...
 
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Supyo

Member
Great advice for a "kickstand". I had a wood peg that was the same diameter so I cut it down to size and it works great! The Plenty rocks, but I am so surprised nobody talks about it. WTF???
 
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ugobo

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Great advice for a "kickstand". I had a wood peg that was the same diameter so I cut it down to size and it works great! The Plenty rocks, but I am so surprised nobody talks about it. WTF???

I know what you mean... I think not many people "fell" for the Plenty. Mostly because of it's price tag i think. It takes also a lot of material to obtain optimal results. The liquid pad works if you want to fill less the chamber. But the results ARE NOT THE SAME!!! Also,the temp set-up is not very friendly.

I don't use my Plenty often but when i do i'm fully satisfied and don't regret having it.
 
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Supyo

Member
I don't mind the liquid pad, but I hope S&B comes up with a better accessory for small usage. I just flattened my pad out a bit and it stays snug on the top black portion of the chamber, until Its removed for cleaning. I also removed the top screen since with the permanent pad, this screen seemed like overkill. Besides, the top screen never gets fully cleaned no matter how long I leave it in iso, so I just stopped using it.

I don't mind the temp control that much since mine is always pinned at 7. I do wish it went to eleven, like Nigel's amp though. Who doesn't want a little more muscle under the hood, right?
 
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bliss

Member
Hey, thought I'd chip in about the liquid pad…

I found after some months using the liquid pad it was becoming really rubbish. The pad was restricting the flow of air too much, I think as it started to either gunk up or become compressed.

I've been using it since without the liquid pad, still using just small amounts of plant matter — a smallish pinch, just enough to cover the screen in a light way, there is still a lot of the screen showing.

Then when I'm using the Plenty I make sure to hold it upright, so the herb doesn't move. Also, don't draw too hard, and don't draw at all if you're opening the chamber (you may not do this, but I have a tendency to, the change in suction causes the herb to fly around the chamber).
 
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