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Underdog Log Vapes

pandaphysics

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What voltage do you use for concentrates? I normally use 9-10V for flower, should I bump that up for shatter?
So I don't actually use a VVPS currently (I accidentally ripped a cable out
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and have been too lazy to fix it). So I am just plugged straight into the wall, but it is the same set up that I use for vaping plain weed.
 
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SpruceGruve

Bag of sand in hand,Eyeing up the gold statue
What’s the easiest way to post a pic now a days,been in active a long time on here.

Just wanted to post a pic of my beautiful little nano twig I got 4 years ago,still running stong
 
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cjwally

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Hey guys! Long-time lurker here and still loving my dog from 2011 but looking for a new member to add to the pack :)

About to put in order in for a ready made vape but keep seeing references to the fyt log vape? I've tried to look through the thread but haven't been able to figure out what it is... Anyone care to fill me in?
 

warren0728

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Hey guys! Long-time lurker here and still loving my dog from 2011 but looking for a new member to add to the pack :)

About to put in order in for a ready made vape but keep seeing references to the fyt log vape? I've tried to look through the thread but haven't been able to figure out what it is... Anyone care to fill me in?
here is my explanation with a response from underdog including a video

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/underdog-log-vapes.4214/page-638#post-1387549
 

bizwaxzion

Enigmatic Cannabist

CurryLeafTreehugger

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Tell you a little secret....get a month or so of everyday use on that stem, then drop those balls (take it to the out of context thread already) into some whole milk and bring it to a near boil simmer....add some cocoa and have an evening of great contemplation....

OK, I've asked this question before, and never got a real answer (as in telling me how to do this - "warm milk and heat is all you need" doesn't tell me HOW warm milk and heat work in this context LOL!)

HOW DO YOU DO THIS? What do you mean by "balls"? How do you get the resin out of the inside of the glass stem and into the hot chocolate?

My stems have got a couple of YEARS worth of resin in them. How do I get that out of there and into me? LOL!

:science:
 
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mucsusn

60 going on 20
OK, I've asked this question before, and never got a real answer (as in telling me how to do this - "warm milk and heat is all you need" doesn't tell me HOW warm milk and heat work in this context LOL!)

HOW DO YOU DO THIS? What do you mean by "balls"? How do you get the resin out of the inside of the glass stem and into the hot chocolate?

My stems have got a couple of YEARS worth of resin in them. How do I get that out of there and into me? LOL!

:science:
Put the entire stem in a saucepan with enough milk to cover. Bring slowly to heat...if you have a thermometer, keep it between 190-210F. You will see you stems become clean in just a few minutes.

Cannabis compounds are soluble in fat, hence the milk (don't forget to use whole milk). so they dissolve into the milk. Since these compounds have already been decarboxylated in your vape, the leftovers you coaxed out of the stem are ready to go for our psychoactive purposes.
 

TaterLog

Real Human [baked] Bean
Anyone else find that the nylon stem is a satisfying medium for flavor profiles?

I broke the dog out last night (been on the go for the past couple of months and relied on the ol VapCap) and alternated the VVPS to 9.7-10. Grinded some Rolex OG and some Glueberry then commenced on a journey to rendezvous with bliss.

First time ever doing this with my UD, as I generally put it on 11 and rip titties thru a 14in stemless. I was genuinely blown away by the session.
 
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CurryLeafTreehugger

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Put the entire stem in a saucepan with enough milk to cover. Bring slowly to heat...if you have a thermometer, keep it between 190-210F. You will see you stems become clean in just a few minutes.

Cannabis compounds are soluble in fat, hence the milk (don't forget to use whole milk). so they dissolve into the milk. Since these compounds have already been decarboxylated in your vape, the leftovers you coaxed out of the stem are ready to go for our psychoactive purposes.

Well that was interesting. Or it might have been, except I was asleep in nothing flat. I used heavy whipping cream because I had some on hand that I needed to use up. About a pint. Took my two remaining stems (I have lost or broken the rest) and plopped them into that. Of course they instantly disappeared under the cream. So then I attempted to fish one out to look and see how the resin meltage was coming along and PHWOOM! It shoot out of the jaws of the tongs and bounced off the tile countertop and broke.

So now I have ONE stem left LOL!

Eventually I gave up on it melting out all by itself, dug up some Tuaca because that is the strongest thing I have on hand that isn't buried in a box somewhere - actually I had some rum that has mysteriously disappeared during one of several visits from plumbers, but what the hey, it was cheap Costco rum that didn't taste good and kept giving me a headache anyway.

But back to the Tuaca. I poured a teeny amount into the sole surviving stem and shook it around. A lot. Dumped it into the pan where the cream continued gently burbling its way towards khoya-hood. Did this 3 or 4 times until I gave up on getting that slick of cream off the inside of the stem. Then I let the cream cook almost all the way down into Khoya - which is the base for a whole lot of Indian desserts that I never make because the amount of cream required is truly stupendous when you're cooking for more than just one person. I make gulab jamun the cheaty-way, with Bisquick. But this stuff is really yummy. I'd forgotten how good it is. I stopped short of full-on khoya, just cooked it down to a creamy texture sort of like very soft cream cheese.

This I stirred into a half cup of hot chocolate.

WOW! Jeez Louise that was one delicious cup of khoya-and-vaguely-Tuaca-flavored hot chocolate!

Honestly I felt no "effect" per se. I took one cup and waited about an hour, nothing. So used up the rest in a second cup of hot chocolate. I still felt nothing, right up until I zonked out and didn't wake up until 8:30 the next morning. Given I am usually up with the rising sun (aka 5 or 6 AM) I actually DID oversleep.

I am at about 5200 feet here so the boiling point is about 202F, and I kept it at a very low simmer for at least a couple of hours. Might even have been 3. So I'm pretty sure the heat was sufficient unto the day. Great for sleeping soundly - but not so much in the fun department, LOL!

Plus the risk to my sole remaining stem - probably won't be trying this again any time soon. I have lost or broken all but one of my original stems, LOL!

Anyone else find that the nylon stem is a satisfying medium for flavor profiles?

I broke the dog out last night (been on the go for the past couple of months and relied on the ol VapCap) and alternated the VVPS to 9.7-10. Grinded some Rolex OG and some Glueberry then commenced on a journey to rendezvous with bliss.

First time ever doing this with my UD, as I generally put it on 11 and rip titties thru a 14in stemless. I was genuinely blown away by the session.

I don't care for the nylon stems because I can't see what's happening in there, plus too hard to clean properly. But lots of people swear by them. As long as I remember to use teensy amounts in my glass stem, I honestly get about the same result with my glass stems anyway. One day maybe I'll learn how to use a bong properly and see how it works through a bong.

Probably not for quite awhile though. As soon as I finish fixing the bathroom this house goes up for sale and I'm moving to an illegal state where there is little hope of that changing any time soon.

In the meantime I am sticking with my UD and its one lonely remaining glass stem, which I run at about 11.4v these days.

Yay da underdog!
 

underdog

shade-tree vapor engineer
Manufacturer
Hey, not sure if you're still looking for a custom stem but I'm a glassblower and I make UD stems.

Hey Vlad thanks for posting! I'm not sure if that particular user is still looking for a stem but there always seems to be demand for custom ones on our Instagram feed. If you're on there send us a message and I'd be happy to blast your info out to our followers. If you're not on IG.. well.. you should be. :cool:
 

Vlad the Inhaler

Accessory Maker
Accessory Maker
Hey Vlad thanks for posting! I'm not sure if that particular user is still looking for a stem but there always seems to be demand for custom ones on our Instagram feed. If you're on there send us a message and I'd be happy to blast your info out to our followers. If you're not on IG.. well.. you should be. :cool:

Actually I've done work for you guys recently, my profile on FC actually predates Instagram @508phineas, sorry for the confusion!
 

underdog

shade-tree vapor engineer
Manufacturer
Actually I've done work for you guys recently, my profile on FC actually predates Instagram @508phineas, sorry for the confusion!

Ah, I was wondering but wasn't sure if you were you.. lol

The work you did for us is awesome and it's killin me to be holding it and not show it to anyone but we're packaging them with the first of our updated Dogs to go out once we restart production and want them to be a surprise. :cool: :cheers:

Once we're back up and running I definitely want to talk to you about doing some more/different things for us too if you're game.
 

amexudo

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I use wax and distillate in my underdog with the nylon water pipe stems. I just put it on top of some weed usually (otherwise I use hemp fiber). The wax doesn't seems to be much of a problem and is absolutely delicious. When I put too much distillate it tends to make it pretty messy and when the screen gets clogged and the draw slows down I have combusted before, so be careful.
Use the degummed hemp fiber sold on underdog website

Hey, not sure if you're still looking for a custom stem but I'm a glassblower and I make UD stems.
Yes I am sending you a direct message on Instagram!

Hey everyone, sorry if this has been asked decently but I'm wondering if anyone has used their underdog for concentrates? I've been getting into dabbing recently but I don't always want to bring out the torch and all that so it would be nice to just throw it on my UD.

That being said, we got our log about 8 months ago and I'm in love. Such good flavor, and excellent efficiency. I bought a smart outlet to turn it on during the bus ride home from work so it's all warmed up as soon as I come in the door!
Yes use the hemp fiber that they sell on the website:
https://underdogvapes.com/vape-accessories/hemp-fiber
 
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Vlad the Inhaler

Accessory Maker
Accessory Maker
Ah, I was wondering but wasn't sure if you were you.. lol

The work you did for us is awesome and it's killin me to be holding it and not show it to anyone but we're packaging them with the first of our updated Dogs to go out once we restart production and want them to be a surprise. :cool: :cheers:

Once we're back up and running I definitely want to talk to you about doing some more/different things for us too if you're game.

Oh wow! I am honored you're using my work for your new lineup! I'm definitely game do see what other projects you might have for me in the future.
 

hillbill

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My Underdog will not heat to vape temp and innerds have become very loose. Underdog tightened it up a couple years ago. One too many tumbles off end table.

Is Underdog capable of rebuilds yet or soon? Is that service still as reasonably as it was? Vape was. Ought by me in November 2014.

Use it with a buck/boost and nothing fits that niche of easy handling and instant convection vaping and economy.

Any info here?
 

underdog

shade-tree vapor engineer
Manufacturer
My Underdog will not heat to vape temp and innerds have become very loose. Underdog tightened it up a couple years ago. One too many tumbles off end table.

Is Underdog capable of rebuilds yet or soon? Is that service still as reasonably as it was? Vape was. Ought by me in November 2014.

Use it with a buck/boost and nothing fits that niche of easy handling and instant convection vaping and economy.

Any info here?

@hillbill hey there, yes we're capable of repairs/rebuilds now for sure.. send us a PM or contact us through the site and we'll get you sorted out. :cheers:
 
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