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ClearBlueLou

unbearably light in the being....
https://www.marijuanamoment.net/for...are-valid-reasons-to-decriminalize-marijuana/

Encouraging...and yet the drug-war is strong with this one...I’ll be doing a breakdown of this guy’s talking points
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The former head of the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) said that the country should consider decriminalizing marijuana and create a federal regulatory framework to “standardize” state-level cannabis markets. But he doesn’t personally back full-scale legalization.

During an appearance on C-SPAN’s Washington Journal on Wednesday, Scott Gottlieb took a call from a Washington State viewer who said legalization was working well for the state and that it was a better system than incarcerating people for marijuana offenses.

Gottlieb said the caller’s comment raised the importance of differentiating legalization and decriminalization, arguing that legal cannabis systems pose public health concerns due to the potential impact of THC on brain development.

“I do think that we’re conducting a very large and potentially unfortunate national experiment in this country by making THC and marijuana so widely available, particularly seeing the rapid rise in youth use of THC,” he said. “There are going to be long-term effects from that on developing brains, seeing so many kids now using THC because of the legalization of these products and the retraction of any stigma associated with the use of these products.”

(Recent studies, including one published in JAMA Pediatrics last month, have indicated that youth consumption actually decreases in states where cannabis is legalized, possibly due to regulations that keep underage consumers from purchasing marijuana.)

But while Gottlieb made his opposition to legalization clear, he said the country “could look at decriminalizing marijuana, and there are valid reasons why we ought to do that from a public policy standpoint.”

“That discussion should be separate from legalization, particularly around recreational use,” he said.

“Two things: one, I think we ought to look at decriminalizing it,” he added. “People are arrested for possession of marijuana and face sentences that are oftentimes in excess of what they would receive for offenses that I think are far more significant and serious. You do see too many people I think developing significant criminal records for small possession charges of marijuana.”

Watch Gottlieb discuss decriminalizing marijuana, starting at about 17:30 into the video below:

The comments go further in support of decriminalization than when Gottlieb signaled he supported the policy position last year, though they still fall short of an explicit endorsement.

The host asked Gottlieb if he’d discussed decriminalization with the White House during his time at FDA. He said he hadn’t “because my domain was largely public health and the discussion that I would typically get drawn into was the question around legalization and particularly around the youth use of these products.”

While the former FDA official said that the country’s marijuana reform efforts should be limited to decriminalization, he also conceded that “ultimately we’re going to have to have a federal reckoning around” questions about differing state marijuana programs in contrast to federal law and the varying accessibility to cannabis that results.

“We’ve seen so many states move forward with different laws, many of which I believe are far too permissive from a public health standpoint in terms of making THC available to young people and making it available too widely that we’re going to want to have a federal regime that probably standardizes this and maybe puts in place more stringent safeguards around keeping these kinds of products out of the hands of particularly kids, where you have the biggest public health concerns and the biggest concerns around long-term implications of THC use,” he said.

“I suspect we’re a couple of political cycles away from doing that—not because of a Republican or a Democratic issue, this is not necessarily a partisan political issue,” he said. “I think it’s just going to take the federal government more time to catch up to what’s going on in the states.”
 
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Tranquility

Well-Known Member
Some are trying to include cannabis as one of the "red flags" used to deny firearms possession in the laws being proposed in response to recent shootings.

https://nypost.com/2019/08/07/the-link-between-pot-and-mass-shootings-may-be-closer-than-we-think/
...So for anyone actually interested in preventing future such massacres, the so-called “red flag” legislation Trump is advocating to deny people with mental illness access to firearms is the most logical measure and the one most likely to be embraced by both sides of politics.


But it also should apply to marijuana use, seeing as the two go hand in hand.

You can’t address the youth mental health crisis without considering the effect of rising teen marijuana use...​
 

nickdanger

Collector of Functional Art
@OldNewbie I read through the whole article, and no mention was made of the psychotropic drugs that many teenage males are fed like candy. The article stated that many had been diagnosed as mentally ill or had issues, so most certainly those were prescribed the drug of the day. Heck, they even start them off in elementary school giving them pills for ADHD. Most of them are males that are bored to death sitting in a classroom, and the schools have to find a way to control them. So they are off to an early start. The men of this country are being destroyed by the system.

Not one person in any position of power has gone down this rabbit hole because they know who controls the narrative controls the debate. The pHARMaceutical companies are in control of the narrative because so many in politics and the media receive huge campaign contributions.

Here in OK, we voted in legal medical about a year ago. The number of folks that report getting off their anxiety (and pain) meds due to being able to use cannabis is impressive. It's no wonder that big med wants to blame the problem on its use.
 

Tranquility

Well-Known Member
In an interesting method of study (number of internet searches), some have found pot can decrease alcohol interest in teens, but might increase tobacco interest. (Note, this is for MARKETING purposes.)

https://www.informs.org/About-INFOR...uana-a-substitute-for-alcohol-but-not-tobacco
New Marketing Science Study Key Takeaways:

  • Research shows once recreational marijuana is legalized, the number of online searches for tobacco increase by 8%, while searches for alcohol drop by 11%.
  • The findings could have an implication on sales for the alcohol and tobacco industries.
  • The passing of recreational cannabis increases online searches for cannabis done by adults by 17%, but not by youth.

CATONSVILLE, MD, July 17, 2019 – The recent wave of recreational cannabis legalization across the U.S. could generate $22 billion in sales per year, but not everyone is happy about it. New research in the INFORMS journal Marketing Science shows the alcohol industry could be impacted when the substance is legalized.

“It appears the alcohol industry has valid reason to be concerned about legal marijuana and may need creative strategies to avoid market decline if it passes,” said Pengyuan Wang, an assistant professor in the Terry College of Business at the University of Georgia.

The study shows online searches for alcohol saw a drop of nearly 11%, but tobacco products were searched online nearly 8% more often.

The U.S. alcohol and tobacco industries are worth a combined $300 billion. They are typically avid opponents of marijuana legalization legislation, but this research suggests, “tobacco companies may need to reexamine their presumption, and that anti-cannabis legalization is not to the best of their interest,” said Wang.

The research by Wang and co-author Guiyang Xiong of Syracuse University looked at anonymous data from 28 million online searches and 120 million ad impressions from a leading U.S.-based web portal from January 2014 to April 2017.

The study also found the legalization of recreational marijuana increases online searches by adults by 17%. There is actually a decrease in searches done by those age 19 years and younger after the substance is legalized.

“Contrary to widely held public concern after recreational cannabis is legalized, teenagers appear to lose interest, rather than gain interest,” added Wang. “Policymakers only concerned with an uptick in teen users, may want to rethink their stance.”
 

ClearBlueLou

unbearably light in the being....
Some are trying to include cannabis as one of the "red flags" used to deny firearms possession in the laws being proposed in response to recent shootings.

https://nypost.com/2019/08/07/the-link-between-pot-and-mass-shootings-may-be-closer-than-we-think/
...So for anyone actually interested in preventing future such massacres, the so-called “red flag” legislation Trump is advocating to deny people with mental illness access to firearms is the most logical measure and the one most likely to be embraced by both sides of politics.


But it also should apply to marijuana use, seeing as the two go hand in hand.

You can’t address the youth mental health crisis without considering the effect of rising teen marijuana use...​
NOT surprised by the article’s stance: the NY Post is owned by ‘Diamond’ Jared Kushner, shadow agent of the Trump family and constant security violator. The bullshit is inevitable. Alexander Hamilton is rolling in his grave
 

BabyFacedFinster

Anything worth doing, is worth overdoing.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/19/...rYpCfjXH20c6GqQZvrvEdGC6foLFOJTRZu0MUhe-WfEAI

A big thank you to hemp flower. Some prosecutors are dropping charges and passing on the time and money needed to prove that someone was in possession of cannabis and not hemp.

I have placed hemp flower I've bought online from Cascadia Blooms next to my cannabis buds and I'd be damned if I could tell the difference, and the CBD buds shipped through the US mail.

Come on now :p
 

Ramahs

Fucking Combustion (mostly) Since February 2017
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/19/...rYpCfjXH20c6GqQZvrvEdGC6foLFOJTRZu0MUhe-WfEAI

A big thank you to hemp flower. Some prosecutors are dropping charges and passing on the time and money needed to prove that someone was in possession of cannabis and not hemp.

I have placed hemp flower I've bought online from Cascadia Blooms next to my cannabis buds and I'd be damned if I could tell the difference, and the CBD buds shipped through the US mail.

Come on now :p

Yup...we need to FLOOD Texas with legal CBD flower that they can't tell the difference from THC containing cannabis without lab tests. I mean, fucking FLOOD IT, because Fuck Them!!!
 

His_Highness

In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
When I was in the Navy around 40 years ago we were on a 6 month med cruise and a couple of us bought this "stuff" that was advertised as "smells, tastes, looks and burns like weed but isn't weed". Our intention was to roll it up and smoke it everywhere on the ship until the master at arms (Ship police) tried to make a case. My guess is that the stuff was industrial hemp. 3 of us stood in the galley smoking these things when the master at arms came walking in and demanded I give it to him. He took a nice long hit and said "I new you assholes were pulling a fast one." and he handed it back to me. We were devastated......
 

grampa_herb

Epstein didn't kill himself
Mike Tyson Says He Smokes 'About' $40K of Marijuana Every Month
ROB GOLDBERGAUGUST 13, 2019
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Mike Tyson is certainly enjoying his retirement.
 

ClearBlueLou

unbearably light in the being....
Beat me to it, Gramps...seems to me he must be paying beyond top-dollar if he’s spending that much...never had the chance to check it out, but I suspect an ounce a month is something I’d have to work up to, and I have considerable tolerances, but hell, he might go thru an ounce a day. Could depend on his friends, too
 

Ramahs

Fucking Combustion (mostly) Since February 2017
Back when I used to smoke, I used to smoke 1.0 to 1.5 oz per week.
But still, 40k a month? WTF?

He's completely full of shit. He's gotta be sharing that.
There is a HUUUUGE difference between "I buy about 40K per month" and "I smoke about 40k per month!
So yeah, he's a fucking liar :bang:


**edit**
I just read the actual article, and the headline is NOT what he actually said. It's made-up. So yeah, that author is a fucking liar!
Fuck Rob Goldberg, whoever that lying jackass is.
 
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Tranquility

Well-Known Member
His purported income is from "acting" and is said to be about $2 million a year. His wealth is greatly in his house and his net worth is said to be about $3 million.

$40K x 12 = $480,000

I am shocked he previously went bankrupt.
 

Tranquility

Well-Known Member
Alas, it seems to me the original article might be the work of Tyson's publicist. Guess what business Iron Mike is looking to get into?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-worth-pot-MONTH-cannabis-vacation-ranch.html

Former heavyweight champion Mike Tyson revealed he smokes $40,000 worth of pot every month, around ten tons of weed, on his podcast this week.

The 52-year-old also sells around $500,000 worth of cannabis each month from his 420-acre ranch in California, he said on his Hotboxin' podcast on Monday.

'I can't believe we're doing this,' Tyson told his co-hosts, 'I can't believe I'm talking, smoking on a f***ing podcast.'

The fighter has bold plans for his Tyson Ranch, a playground for stoners which will feature a luxury hotel and golf course...​
 

ClearBlueLou

unbearably light in the being....
Back when I used to smoke, I used to smoke 1.0 to 1.5 oz per week.
But still, 40k a month? WTF?

He's completely full of shit. He's gotta be sharing that.
There is a HUUUUGE difference between "I buy about 40K per month" and "I smoke about 40k per month!
So yeah, he's a fucking liar :bang:

**edit**
I just read the actual article, and the headline is NOT what he actually said. It's made-up. So yeah, that author is a fucking liar!
Fuck Rob Goldberg, whoever that lying jackass is.
As a writer, lemme tell you, headline-writers are their own species...a readable, coherent writer doesn’t use clickbait titles outrage tags...headline writers do those things.

Don’t fault the puppy, then kick the dog for it...it’s actually not unlike being a salesman vs being a programmer: salesmen lie (write headlines) in order to get signed checks and contracts (clicks and reads); the programmer doesn’t even know about the lies, and only finds out about it when the new customer calls support to complain their new system won’t do what was promised (the article and headline don’t match).

the programmer has to try to find a way to make the salesmen’s lies come true - whereas the article writer already WROTE the article and the headline writer broke it....

don’ worry bout a ting, mon

Tyson discovered vaporizing only recently. Nobody told him the devices are reusable so he buys a new Volcano Hybrid every time he vaporizes. Like with rolling papers.
His people running top dollar vapes out the back...”Guaranteed, only used once, and by MIKE TYSON - here’s your certificate of authenticity...and look, you can see most of a gram still in there...One Kay my man - they don’t grow on trees, ya know! “
 
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Ramahs

Fucking Combustion (mostly) Since February 2017
As a writer, lemme tell you, headline-writers are their own species...a readable, coherent writer doesn’t use clickbait titles outrage tags...headline writers do those things.

Don’t fault the puppy, then kick the dog for it...it’s actually not unlike being a salesman vs being a programmer: salesmen lie (write headlines) in order to get signed checks and contracts (clicks and reads); the programmer doesn’t even know about the lies, and only finds out about it when the new customer calls support to complain their new system won’t do what was promised (the article and headline don’t match).

the programmer has to try to find a way to make the salesmen’s lies come true - whereas the article writer already WROTE the article and the headline writer broke it....

don’ worry bout a ting, mon

You're probably right. Thanks for taking the time to reply.:cheers:
I was "knee-jerk reacting", which is usually not a good idea.
 

cpk

Brother of the Leaf
I am sure someone misquoted Tyson. I can't wait till Tyson Ranch is open. It's being built over in Desert Hot Springs 420 acres. It's suppose to have the largest lazy river in the country, indoor water park(117F the past 2 days in the desert), music festivals, camping, golf complex, entertainment resort and amtrak stop. Tysons resin was quite the treat and I hear from the locals the flower is killer. The city is also going to open up the nation's first drive thru dispensary. A lot of 420 disps and growing facilities popping up out there it's kind of embarrassing seeing so many billboards for dispensaries as my guests drive this way. But it's all good.
 

Tranquility

Well-Known Member
Let the Democratic auction begin. While this would be a good opening bid, I believe such a "pardon" is unconstitutional. If not, a president can change the law to whatever he wants when he wants. A pardon must be individualized and not to a class. That does not mean I don't like the way he's thinking--it's just that it is a Congress thing and not an Executive thing. (That and the problem of federalism. Most nonviolent marijuana convictions are at the state level.)

2020 Presidential candidate Andrew Yang wants mass pardon for nonviolent marijuana convictions

https://thegrio.com/2019/08/18/2020...-pardon-for-nonviolent-marijuana-convictions/

As the upcoming national presidential campaign heats up, Democratic candidates are fighting to set themselves a part. Underdog Andrew Yang has found himself with a bit of a following and recently announced a promise of sweeping pardons for nonviolent marijuana offenses.

On Friday, Yang spoke to a crowd in Concord, N.H. during an event hosted by the ACLU. During his speech, he told the crowd, “I’m going to mass pardon everyone who is in jail for nonviolent marijuana-related offenses. Americans now recognize just how broken our mass incarceration system is and how much progress we need to make.”

During his campaign, Yang has been an outspoken supporter of marijuana legalization and decriminalization on the federal and state levels. According to The Hill, Yang also supports removing marijuana from the controlled substances list and expunging the records of those with federal marijuana convictions for possession and usage.

His speech at Concord was the not the first time, Yang spoke publicly about his plans to produce sweeping changes when it came to marijuana laws. In April, he made headlines when he told attendees of the National Action Network Conference in New York City that he would “legalize marijuana and then I would pardon everyone who’s in jail for a nonviolent drug-related offense. I would pardon them on April 20, 2021 and I would high-five them on the way out of jail.”

Yang has been considered an underdog in the 2020 presidential race from the start having to campaign alongside names like Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders, Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren. Now Yang has qualified for the fall debates.

Marijuana legalization has been a hot topic among the Democratic candidates with many showing full support. According to The Hill, Presidential candidate, Gov. Jay Inslee granted official pardons to thousands of Washington residents convicted of low-level possession charges earlier this year. So far, 11 states and the District of Columbia legalizing the recreational use of marijuana, there seems to be hope that more will follow in the near future.​
 

cybrguy

Putin is a War Criminal
it's just that it is a Congress thing and not an Executive thing. (That and the problem of federalism. Most nonviolent marijuana convictions are at the state level.)
Right. What he CAN do (once elected) is get the DOJ (through the DEA) to drop cannabis off the controlled substance list, making it easier for states to overturn their own prohibitions and pardon their "offenders" if that is what they choose to do.

Illinois is about to do just that without the Federal "permission".
 
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