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justcametomind

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Thanks for all the suggestions so far, everyone :rockon:

It seems the Supreme V3 doesn’t ship to a few states for some reason :(
That's absurd, sometimes I used shipito.com when someone didn't ship to my country. If you think Supreme is an option I'd message the producer before anything else or find a different online reseller. Or a used one.
It's been years I am after the hardest hitting desktop and Supreme was the vape built with that in mind and with less compromises that I tried. Short session, effects comparable to dabbing, efficiency if you have good lungs. Not many missed cannabinoids in ABV, and a lot of fun when that vacuum, effortless, tasty whitewalling takes place.

@Alexis I missed an "and" editing my previous message. I consider as issues with my Herbo falling debris AND inefficiency/half baked weed. I didn't mean to consider debris the core of its inefficiency at all but I can't blame you for misunderstanding since I left words while editing. ;)
When I will take my time to play with my Herbo or reading the thread I will find a solution.
 
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Jimmer144

Sargeant REG
First of all great topic for a thread. Secondly I will have to agree to with Shervin about the Dynavap, my M seems to give me all of the effect I need in 2 hits, i mostly attach it to a gong to use thru a waterpipe, but i have found i feel similar effects using the same technique dry when i am out and about, it may be the only vape i own that doesn't make me crave another hit/bowl right after finishing one, and for that I am grateful. The only other vape i own that can extract as quickly or as efficiently taking the bud to as dark of a state as possible while still staying a hair below combustion is my E-Nano. I'd prob rank my Nano 2nd on the list because if you own a stem or gong with movable screens you can pack as hard a hit as you like and crank up your temp as high as you like, it prob goes further with as little bud/keef as one could get away with in one draw, nuff said.
 

justcametomind

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When I use a Vapcap I tend to overheat. I feel like it turn me into a sort of junkie chasing for that last kick from a load and often combusting trying to achieve that. Even if I don't combust I think that part of that couchlock effect I get only from Vapcap comes from going close to combustion. Sort of what seemed to be going with the last DrDabber portable e-rig used with weed, I heard.
In my case I only blame my poor technique and my mindset. It's a fact that weed puts me in a forgetful mindset. I forget the click. I would be a fool if I kept using a vaporizer in which I combust 1/5 of my bowls. And char most of them.
 

John Coaltrain

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When I use a Vapcap I tend to overheat. I feel like it turn me into a sort of junkie chasing for that last kick from a load and often combusting trying to achieve that. Even if I don't combust I think that part of that couchlock effect I get only from Vapcap comes from going close to combustion. Sort of what seemed to be going with the last DrDabber portable e-rig used with weed, I heard.
In my case I only blame my poor technique and my mindset. It's a fact that weed puts me in a forgetful mindset. I forget the click. I would be a fool if I kept using a vaporizer in which I combust 1/5 of my bowls. And char most of them.

Have you tried applying your flame closer to the tip? From my experience (and from what I've read in the comments of others) this results in a lower temperature.
 

justcametomind

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I tried, that's why I use Vapman only with Vapman station.
I tend to try to vape all the cannabinoids inside any load of any vape. And invariably char very often my loads on butane/analog vapes.
Imagine a temperature controlled Vapcap which could vape at the same time 6 Vapcap loads, with no risk to char any load since it has a thermometer. One hit extraction as a plus. That's what a Supreme is to me.
I would consider getting a Vapcap induction heater (and I am very interested in new developments about that: official one or a cheap AND small one, quite the contrary at the moment). Even better building one by myself. I'd have probably already done that if I didn't have so many options already.
 
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Vaporware

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Another vote for the FlowerPot as the best fast extractor I have. Anything with a stable heater that’s capable of temps nearing combustion (or going higher and extracting with convection like the FP) should extract very quickly though.

Something like the Sublimator which uses convection and conduction should be even better in that respect (I haven’t used one), and the Supreme and butane powered stuff tends to hit hard, otherwise I think on-demand convection devices capable of high temps are overall the best options right now.
 

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analytika

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Starting with literally nothing, not even a soldering iron, I built a do-it-yourself for about $60? Many of the components came in packages of 5 or more or were one time buys. The marginal cost on each additional would have been about $25, including the mosfet. (Mine is AC only).

Everything I've seen lately is overpriced. Small production runs. No real warranties.

The folks at @PuffItUp a couple of days ago put it this way: "we've talked to a lot of folks making induction heaters, but not a single one of them has a business license."

One factor is that capacitors of this kind are fundamentally hazardous, they can arc causing severe burns or explode.

I'd go with @Pipes (track record) or, if you know what you're doing, the do-it-yourself option.

Let the truth be told, I've been using butane and a nice lighter a bit more often lately.
 
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little maggie

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YaMon

Vaping since 2010
Starting with literally nothing, not even a soldering iron, I built a do-it-yourself for about $60? Many of the components came in packages of 5 or more or were one time buys. The marginal cost on each additional would have been about $25, including the mosfet. (Mine is AC only).

Everything I've seen lately is overpriced. Small production runs. No real warranties.

The folks at @PuffItUp a couple of days ago put it this way: "we've talked to a lot of folks making induction heaters, but not a single one of them has a business license."

One factor is that capacitors of this kind are fundamentally hazardous, they can arc causing severe burns or explode.

I'd go with @Pipes (track record) or, if you know what you're doing, the do-it-yourself option.

Let the truth be told, I've been using butane and a nice lighter a bit more often lately.
As much as we would like to think the Vape business is mature, it is not. We are so fortunate to have explorers among us who pour an enormous amount of personal time and resources into building induction heaters, kudos to @Pipes and @mr_cfromcali I am not able to build what they have assembled and have followed both, the detail and interaction we have as FC members is phenomenal. That said I know there are risks (Fuck business insurance, Steve Jobs did not have any in his garage either!), but I am more than happy with my IH. It’s a game changer for my VapCaps! As to being over priced, we’re not dealing with mass production. These IHs are all hand built, what do you expect? It’s taken RBT 4+ years to move to low cost overseas production and even then Ryan is talking about updating his resume.

@analytika I respect your insights, but with respect to the many craftsmen putting their passion out there and sacrificing family and personal time I would expect to pay more. It’s not like I can run down to Best Buy and get what I want.
 

analytika

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@analytika I respect your insights, but with respect to the many craftsmen putting their passion out there and sacrificing family and personal time I would expect to pay more. It’s not like I can run down to Best Buy and get what I want.
It's bad enough when a limited liability manufacturer in this industry shuts down or even declares bankruptcy.

It will be something else again when one of our "craftsman" who operates without a business license, a limited liability vehicle or insurance, faces a product liability lawsuit after a catastrophe, and suffers personal liability and bankruptcy.

Induction heaters are a dangerous class of devices for "artisans".

Word to the wise, talk to a lawyer if you are going commando. Do it right, grow, and you might even find yourself a distributor.
 

YaMon

Vaping since 2010
It's bad enough when a limited liability manufacturer in this industry shuts down or even declares bankruptcy.

It will be something else again when one of our "craftsman" who operates without a business license, a limited liability vehicle or insurance, faces a product liability lawsuit after a catastrophe, and suffers personal liability and bankruptcy.

Induction heaters are a dangerous class of devices for "artisans".

Word to the wise, talk to a lawyer if you are going commando. Do it right, grow, and you might even find yourself a distributor.
This subject is definitely worthy of a thread of it’s own. I will not sue any craftsmen, but I cannot say the same for my family if my IH were toi blow up and take my head with it however unlikely.
 

DeeCee5

Livin' La Vida Loca in FL
This subject is definitely worthy of a thread of it’s own. I will not sue any craftsmen, but I cannot say the same for my family if my IH were to blow up and take my head with it however unlikely.

I am not a lawyer or Consumer Affairs inspector so this is only my :2c:.

From what I've read, I consider the IH heaters from @Pipes and @mr_cfromcali to be well thought out and affordable from a craftsman perspective. Both vendors have been on the forums and seem responsive to user comments.

As far as the build quality and warranty on the Mother Fluxer, I can't comment (as I'm on @mr_cfromcali list and still waiting for my unit to be built).

With @Pipes, he is primarily using over the counter parts for so I don't think he has too much liability to worry about.
My PS Mini, did have an issue and I had to take advantage of @Pipes warranty.
Troubleshooting was done quickly and replacement of the defective part was done promptly.

When you add-in the cost of gearing up production for hundreds of units a month, testing for UL and CSA and business liability insurance, I can now understand why Dynavap is taking so long to come out with their Induction Heater.
 

analytika

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This subject is definitely worthy of a thread of it’s own. I will not sue any craftsmen, but I cannot say the same for my family if my IH were toi blow up and take my head with it however unlikely.
I appreciate and agree with your sentiment. However like you say lawsuits often get filed after catastrophic accidents outside the control of the injured parties. It's not just about what happens after your death. Insurance companies have vast powers of "subrogation" to go after third parties in your name to recover money they've paid for your care. You signed away your right to decide.
 
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