Crafty/Crafty+ by Storz & Bickel

Hello everyone. Bought my craft 3 months ago in the US and brought it to Brazil. Then with only 66 hours of use it got the ref/yellow lights of death. They asked me to send the crafty to Germany and I said it would be too expensive for me to do that. They asked me to send a video showing the serial number and the problem (lights flashing, won't turn on). I did that, and they said they would send me a new crafty. I asked for the upgrade to the mighty, because each new crafty that comes to Brazil neans more taxes to pay (more than a hundred dollars). They charged me 50 euro for the upgrade. Now I am waiting for the mighty to arrive, and I still have my broken crafty. Maybe I can fix it...
 

dzoinp

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Hello everyone. Bought my craft 3 months ago in the US and brought it to Brazil. Then with only 66 hours of use it got the ref/yellow lights of death. They asked me to send the crafty to Germany and I said it would be too expensive for me to do that. They asked me to send a video showing the serial number and the problem (lights flashing, won't turn on). I did that, and they said they would send me a new crafty. I asked for the upgrade to the mighty, because each new crafty that comes to Brazil neans more taxes to pay (more than a hundred dollars). They charged me 50 euro for the upgrade. Now I am waiting for the mighty to arrive, and I still have my broken crafty. Maybe I can fix it...

hehehe essa ainda não tinha ouvido...muito bom. Claro que dá para reparar, procura aqui no forum

hehehe this one had not heard ... very good. Of course you can repair it, search here in the forum
 
dzoinp,
hehehe essa ainda não tinha ouvido...muito bom. Claro que dá para reparar, procura aqui no forum

hehehe this one had not heard ... very good. Of course you can repair it, search here in the forum


Yes, I found the video showing how to change the thermal fuse. It costed me less than a dollar and now I am prepatpremy mind to fix it. Not familiarized with electronics, so I am afraid I will break the wires or damage the contacts...
 
Brazilian crafty,
the thermal is really straight forward the video is on youtube search this Crafty - flashing yellow light fix, the battery you will need a more savy guy to do it, unless you are a electronic guy, this guy that made the video is here on FC he promise to do one for the battery but he is MIA so...but when you go for the thermal fuse take out the battery and the wires attached buy a new battery (sony VTC6) and go find a place were they can do the same thing on the new bat

plenty is weird but its a bomb!!! i own an EVO and im really happy

hope it helps
cheers


I am trying to.fix my crafty, it has got the red yellow lights of death. I was gonna replace the thermal fuse, but then I was that the fuse is different from the one in the video. Mine is 20A 184c, and in the video it was 10A 184c. The problem is I can't find the 20a anywhere... Do you think it's gonna work with the 10a fuse?
 
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Medabot

New Member
Hey guys, i bought 4 new Thermal fuses, after the first time, my crafty showed me Yellow/red light.

Now i changed the battery, everything worked perfectly fine, the new battery is awesome.

However my Thermal fuses all blow after 4-5 Seshs... Now, i will take photos of the whole inside tmrw (im at hospital right now), but if any of you have any suggestions, i'd appreciate that a lot. :)
I opened it, and a part of the Crafty wire fall off, and the end of the thermal fuse it brownish (kinda burnt...) Maybe i put it to close to the heat :o ? I'll try my last one now, and ordered a couple new ones...
I even used 2 thermal fuses, which should be able to handle 192 C / 378 F, but both blew as well (maybe in 5-6 Seshs).



Regards
 
Medabot,

arvias

New Member
Hi guys. My Crafty died with red/blue flashes.
No yellow so that it could be decided by replacing thermal fuze.
Unfortunately 2 years and 1 change have passed, and S&B are telling they only can make me a discount 100$ for a new device in echange for mine. I'm actually thinking about Mighty, but meaby there's any chance fixing my Crafty?
It just flashes red and blue in any cases, even if charge is inserted and not heating at all.
Any advice?
 
arvias,

Medabot

New Member
Hi guys. My Crafty died with red/blue flashes.
No yellow so that it could be decided by replacing thermal fuze.
Unfortunately 2 years and 1 change have passed, and S&B are telling they only can make me a discount 100$ for a new device in echange for mine. I'm actually thinking about Mighty, but meaby there's any chance fixing my Crafty?
It just flashes red and blue in any cases, even if charge is inserted and not heating at all.
Any advice?

Hey Arvias, check the Battery Temp Sensor out (Attached at the outisde of your batter, the small black pin).
Red/blue light means:
"Battery temperature is either too high or too low. Allow the hot Vaporizer to cool down or the cold Vaporizer to warm up."
You could ask the guy, who sells Batterypacks, where he gets the Battery sensors from, if you replace it, it might work. But just my guess
 
Medabot,

vapviking

Old & In the Way
Hey Arvias, check the Battery Temp Sensor out (Attached at the outisde of your batter, the small black pin).
Red/blue light means:
"Battery temperature is either too high or too low. Allow the hot Vaporizer to cool down or the cold Vaporizer to warm up."
You could ask the guy, who sells Batterypacks, where he gets the Battery sensors from, if you replace it, it might work. But just my guess
I thought that the "battery temp. sensor" was the same thing as the thermal fuse, no?
 
vapviking,

tdriver

Well-Known Member
I thought that the "battery temp. sensor" was the same thing as the thermal fuse, no?
no, the temp sensor is a small black pin at the end of a cable, touching the battery.
the thermal fuse is a shiny metal round cylinder connected to the main board.
(check the photos a few pages back.)
 

bobbytwotone

New Member
74hrs in 28mths and my units failed. :( S&B wont do anything other than a 30euro duscount off a new unit. Very disappointed. Tried to replace the battery but no change. Unit turns on, flashes a yellow light for one flash, then couple of red then switches off. When plugged in, the app thought it was fully charged and now just says unit is faulty return to S&B. Who will try and sell you another one for pretty much what you paid for this one. Tosh.
 
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tdriver

Well-Known Member
74hrs in 28mths and my units failed. :( S&B wont do anything other than a 30euro duscount off a new unit. Very disappointed. Tried to replace the battery but no change. Unit turns on, flashes a yellow light for one flash, then couple of red then switches off. When plugged in, the app thought it was fully charged and now just says unit is faulty return to S&B. Who will try and sell you another one for pretty much what you paid for this one. Tosh.

I think it's the thermal fuse.
 
tdriver,

bobbytwotone

New Member
More than 74hrs. At least 150 I'd say. More to the point, when you buy a BMW you expect service and quality. If i wanted a vape that was essentially disposable i'd have spent $100.
 
bobbytwotone,

Polarbearboy

Tokin' Away Since 1968
My God! Do I love Storz & Bickel! Back in the spring my Crafty, purchased four months earlier, began to stop staying connected on Bluetooth. It happened sporadically, so I could still use the app to set the temp and boost, but it became impossible to change settings on the fly. I was out of the country all summer, and so didn't deal with it. Got home and because it wasn't the end of the world and this isn't my only vape, I procrastinated. Then last week I was using it with friends and grew frustrated when I couldn't get connected. It had 70+ hours on it and was taking longer to heat up. I emailed S-B about the BT problem, got an RMA and sent it to Cali. They turned it around in one day but didn't tell me what was going on, other than that they had mailed it back. Well the Fedex was just here. The package seemed heavier than I expected. They sent me a brand new 20% more Crafty. Wow.

I've got other vapes that heat up faster--Firefly 2 and Fury 2--taste better FF2, or give bigger hits VapCap. There are times I get frustrated with how long the Crafty takes to heat up. But I still use it almost daily because no native vape I've ever used gives the combo of giant hits and cooled off vapor, all without the inconvenience--and stigma--of using a butane torch.
 
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roonsy

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So I came into this thread to ask some questions about the crafty and now I'm scared about getting one at all... :lol:

Are the battery etc issues on the last few pages still an issue or are current models ok? I will be using this thing around 30 minutes a day... does that even matter, could it randomly die within a week even with minimal use, if I'm unlucky?

Also with the app, I know you can pick preset temps to work on the vape itself, but can you just use the app to pick a temperature from across the whole range, whenever you want?

I'd go for the mighty in a second if it wasn't so big (I like having controls on the vape itself)... but if the Crafty is going to just die on me (and the Mighty won't)... I dunno. It is the perfect size but I'd really like it to last...
 
roonsy,

Mr. Me2

Well-Known Member
So I came into this thread to ask some questions about the crafty and now I'm scared about getting one at all... :lol:

Are the battery etc issues on the last few pages still an issue or are current models ok? I will be using this thing around 30 minutes a day... does that even matter, could it randomly die within a week even with minimal use, if I'm unlucky?

Also with the app, I know you can pick preset temps to work on the vape itself, but can you just use the app to pick a temperature from across the whole range, whenever you want?

I'd go for the mighty in a second if it wasn't so big (I like having controls on the vape itself)... but if the Crafty is going to just die on me (and the Mighty won't)... I dunno. It is the perfect size but I'd really like it to last...
I haven’t had any issues with my Crafty. For your expected daily use, I think the battery is fine. I prefer its size to the Mighty, but many here prefer the Mighty over the Crafty.

If on the fence, get the Fury2. Similar to the Crafty, easier maintenance, and MUCH less expensive. Plus great cs!
 

Jaystah

Enjoy the ride while you're on it.
I've been a vape geek for the last 10 years and of all my portable vapes*, i still feel the Crafty is the best one. I really wish it had a replaceable battery, but for my daily usage (1 to 2 sessions a night) the battery is fine. It's those moments when you forgot to charge it after use where that replaceable battery wish comes up :-)

I recently picked up a XVAPE Fog and find that it's currently the best bang for the buck, but the vape quality, cleaning and overall experience is better on the Crafty.

Customer support is also excellent at S&B (Crafty manufacturer) and they usually replace defect units within the warranty.

* Ghost MV1 - Crafty - XVAPE Fog, Ariser Solo, Flowermate Nano V5, Flowermate V5 slim, Wisper, Volcano.
 

blackstone

Well-Known Member
CGC has a lot of cash, it's a good move.
Maybe we see a new device by them soon?

I wondered if the takeover was related to a recent collaboration between S&B and Tetra bio pharma which was supposed to involve a 4- strain "smokable" pellet form called PPP001, which looks to me like it might slot into the capsules or maybe the bowl of Mighty/Volcano/Medic/Crafty.
xvseuPPP1__Blister_packs.jpg

Goodbye Grinders and mess, hello big convenience with this!

It appears they were competitors but I did find a google suggestion for -tetra bio pharma canopy growth-

We can maybe expect to see thing like this and hopefully newer even better vapes?!
 

vapviking

Old & In the Way
I wondered if the takeover was related to a recent collaboration between S&B and Tetra bio pharma which was supposed to involve a 4- strain "smokable" pellet form called PPP001, which looks to me like it might slot into the capsules or maybe the bowl of Mighty/Volcano/Medic/Crafty.
xvseuPPP1__Blister_packs.jpg

Goodbye Grinders and mess, hello big convenience with this!

It appears they were competitors but I did find a google suggestion for -tetra bio pharma canopy growth-

We can maybe expect to see thing like this and hopefully newer even better vapes?!
This is such an interesting development and it seems like there may be investment-worthy companies being discussed here. I have sometimes enjoyed being an 'owner' of companies whose products I use, and I wouldn't mind owning a small part of what is/was/will-be S&B. The potential, as in so many other new things, is both wondrous and worrisome (cheers for those with fibromyalgia, who may be helped the most by this pellet).

The march of Pharma will be inevitable, but I'll still say I'd rather know the farmer than my pharmacist. I've waited a lifetime for the time I can grow my own in peace and that moment is almost here. :nod: :leaf: :peace:
 

LambsBreath

Well-Known Member
Considering a Crafty and have a few questions...

One of the most notable things I've learned reading through this thread is that swapping the stock cell with a sony vt6 (or similar) yields noticeable improvements.

Is the performance of the latest version Crafty (with 20% more capacity) comparable to the improvements of the vt6 mod?

I've also read about the thermal fuse causing problems on these, has that issue been corrected in the latest version, or is that something that is still happening?
 
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