Discontinued The Venus Apollo

[Hogni]

I don't know. At least in Germany the Apollo is nearly unknown. It's more an insider tip also in Europe I think. After being busy here on FC for so long I'm pretty wondered that he vanished here w/o any word of reasoning. I also can't remember of any offendings here by users.

 

[Azn2101]

I don't know. At least in Germany the Apollo is nearly unknown. It's more an insider tip also in Europe I think. After being busy here on FC for so long I'm pretty wondered that he vanished here w/o any word of reasoning. I also can't remember of any offendings here by users.

No your right, this seems to be the central place for ALL manufacturers, Especially the artisan or one-man operations, and I don't wanna take sides on this matter because im really new to the thread and I know some of you have gone through the ringer trying to get ahold of him for any kind of response for long periods of time.

I more or less just wanted to point out that there is a way to get in touch with him on a forum of somekind and that it's most likely not some family member/business partner selling off the last of the units (probably) or copying the process without the proper knowledge (or at least he seems to know a lot about the Halogen heating process.)

 

[Azn2101]

Did anyone elses Apollo w SE 50w come with a major dark spot on the screen for the heating element?

I kinda feel like this is a refurbished Apollo2 fitted with a 50w bulb...I took out the glass tube and the metal lining that is basically from the top to the air intake at the bottom is bent and I cant re-insert the tube even when I stick my finger up thru the chamber area to hold it against the side

. I could be wrong but theres no distinction between the 50w and the 20w. That im aware of other than internal wiring that can accommodate a 50w bulb better

Part of that statement was too harsh about it maybe being a 20w but it does kinda suck there isn't any indicarion other than the bulb itself. Just got a little frustrated that I went to clean it and now I cant use it =/

 

[Vapeur Rogue]

@Azn2101
I have not had a chance to order my Apollo 2 50watt yet- or any other Venus vape yet for that matter- but I did notice that occasionally there have been refurb units listed on the site- I did inquire about one once. Regarding the differences, from what I have gathered from our email communication, you are correct in that there are few differences between the two versions.
Personally, I am under the impression it is only the internals that differ.

 

[CheebaChiefer]

Did anyone elses Apollo w SE 50w come with a major dark spot on the screen for the heating element?

I kinda feel like this is a refurbished Apollo2 fitted with a 50w bulb...I took out the glass tube and the metal lining that is basically from the top to the air intake at the bottom is bent and I cant re-insert the tube even when I stick my finger up thru the chamber area to hold it against the side

. I could be wrong but theres no distinction between the 50w and the 20w. That im aware of other than internal wiring that can accommodate a 50w bulb better

Gosh, why don't you go to that other website, that you stated "VilleKille2" communicates so heavily on and ask him about your unit? If you paid full retail you shouldn't have been provided "refurbished" product. Remember, he hasn't been on this site for SEVEN (7) months now. My units were new on delivery, both can be difficult to replace the glass tube(when removed completly for cleaning) I've learned you have to hold the metal insert with one hand while using other hand to push the tube in. Also the unit in the bottom that houses the halogen bulb has to be adjusted frequently when closing up the unit so you get good seal between the bowl & the glass tube. Should either of these procedures be needed on a $300+ vape? Nope.

 

[Azn2101]

Gosh, why don't you go to that other website, that you stated "VilleKille2" communicates so heavily on and ask him about your unit? If you paid full retail you shouldn't have been provided "refurbished" product. Remember, he hasn't been on this site for SEVEN (7) months now. My units were new on delivery, both can be difficult to replace the glass tube(when removed completly for cleaning) I've learned you have to hold the metal insert with one hand while using other hand to push the tube in. Also the unit in the bottom that houses the halogen bulb has to be adjusted frequently when closing up the unit so you get good seal between the bowl & the glass tube. Should either of these procedures be needed on a $300+ vape? Nope.

I appreciate the insight about the glass tubes and the advice on re inseeing it, I had to push up against the side with a marble sized thing and now its enough to squeeze by. Look, as I said in an earlier post, I cant take sides cause I know he hasn't always been around to answer the questions needed but almost 12am where he is and he's still chatting up on how to work the metal so it wont crimp in another area and how to stabilize the heat element. If it is a refurbished unit so be it, it works fine and is set at about the advertised 40sec heat up and if it dies out the EU is much more strict about return warranties than here in the USA so im not worried. I honestly think this guy deserves a lot more credit than he's getting and either way im happy with what I got. I get that $300 is no pocket change but this is my hobby and things happen with digital electronics so to me it's just a simple pack up and return and wait. What other options are there?

@Azn2101
I have not had a chance to order my Apollo 2 50watt yet- or any other Venus vape yet for that matter- but I did notice that occasionally there have been refurb units listed on the site- I did inquire about one once. Regarding the differences, from what I have gathered from our email communication, you are correct in that there are few differences between the two versions.
Personally, I am under the impression it is only the internals that differ.

Yes it's just different wiring but hopefully where it has the Apollo logo & Made in Finland inside the chamber area he csn add the "Apollo2" or "Apollo2.5". He is making it a permanent part of his line up so no need to trip brother. I was still feeling bad I swiped on this unit from you but now I dont feel as bad

 

[CheebaChiefer]

No your right, this seems to be the central place for ALL manufacturers, Especially the artisan or one-man operations, and I don't wanna take sides on this matter because im really new to the thread and I know some of you have gone through the ringer trying to get ahold of him for any kind of response for long periods of time.

I more or less just wanted to point out that there is a way to get in touch with him on a forum of somekind and that it's most likely not some family member/business partner selling off the last of the units (probably) or copying the process without the proper knowledge (or at least he seems to know a lot about the Halogen heating process.)

Used Google translate to look @ this site, now I didn't look @ every page, more like 3-4, not once did I see "villelille2" name associated with a single post. Even with Google translate, Finnish to English is rough, give ya a headache to read too much, like a screen is a "mesh" that's one of the more understandable terms. A lot of the posts were from 2015.

 

[Azn2101]

Why are you here if your just going to complain about stuff man? You bug me here you bug me on Reddit, What do you want? At this point dude your company bashing and have been ever since I joined ul on this thread. Give it a rest dude...

 

[Abysmal Vapor]

@Azn2101 CAn you post a picture of that spot.I dont have this unit so i dont know what exactly are you talking about but
SS mesh/plates discolor from heat. If the unit has undergo a testing or burnoff procedure it is normal to happen. Dont sweat about you unit being used,if it doesnt have scratches or stinks like herbs ,i would consider it brand new .
For 300 euro unit i would expect the unit to be tested and burned off so i dont have to inhale any hazardous fumes . I cannot even imagine that @villekille2 would ever sell a unit without making sure it is operational.

 

[Vapeur Rogue]

@Azn2101
I'm grateful for the feedback you are giving here- and the chance you took. I've been in enough contact with @villekille2 now again recently to feel confident saving up for my turn. I'm not sore about your getting yours- more mildly annoyed now but looking at bigger picture here. I have a Tubo Evic to co-create the design for in the meantime. (And possibly more then one enticing wood option to decide between for my E-Nano!)

We all benefit from more feedback and reviews.

 

[CheebaChiefer]

Why are you here if your just going to complain about stuff man? You bug me here you bug me on Reddit, What do you want? At this point dude your company bashing and have been ever since I joined ul on this thread. Give it a rest dude...

Why are you here? I've been a customer for nearly a year, been on this forum for longer than that. You appear to be a noob and also a shill for Venus. Did they make you a deal on your refurb in exchange for fawning praise on FC? Sure looks that way. Also very important question, since your so happy with your refurb, how come a week ago you were trying to sell it? From some of the posts I read sounds like some of the people you were "negotiating" with questioned the ethics of your sales methodology.

 

[Azn2101]

Well thankfully it wasn't a refurb cause there were no 50w's just 20's, and unless all the units he's working on ATM look very similar to mine than we've all got refurbs lol, so im pretty satisfied in the lengths he went to prove that its not just a 50w but also a new model.

That was Nikkogon trying to "sell" his A2 at $250 and his Herbalizer at $220 and you know the most funny part is IM the one who called him out on his "Ethics" lol

Chill back and vape up bro, this is really a super huge waste time responding to you at all at this point lol.

@Vapeur Rogue i'll have the first vid up sometime over the next week. There is a whole 30 second compilation of combustions, dropping HOT ASS chambers on my legs, and straight being blinded when showing the insertion and removal of the tube (im not Bud so dont expect pro visuals and everything but I won't risk ruining the video with me talking so ill just have captions and answer Q's in the box below)

@Abysmal Vapor Yeah man, lemee load up the unpacking video where it shows it super clear. Would it be best to load the photoes to Imgur or here?

 

[Azn2101]

Shit MB @Abysmal Vapor ill throw up some photos right now. Had to step away from the thread for a bit. Im sorry if anyone felt I crossed the line but its ober and done with. To clear the air, No, im in no way affiliated with Venus Vaporizers other than being a customer. An avid and outspomen one, yes because I really enjoy it and again, how much the owner was willing to work with me and he also shows his gratitude in other ways by giving a total of about ~$50-~$70 in extras from a charger for 18650's, an extra chamber with the cap to try the V1 version if I wanted, 2 extra 80mm Glass Tubes, batteries, and an extra 50w Bulb on top of the 3x I ordered.

Concentrates get a bit weird in the unit since the second you push down the tube to the chamber it kinda makes it like a carb cap and the Live Resin must have made an actual flame cause the space between the first & second Vapor cooling chambers had that black soot in a straight-ish line above the holes in the vapor colors screen. More viscous (but still too thin to actually call wax) concentrates work fine as long as the Cooler is retracted enough to give the chamber air to breathe I thought it was the opposite, smaller chamber=less heated air, but the Cooler hanging over the heat post for 40 seconds gives it a lot more heat than you'd think so when you push it too far down onto material it's like adding ~100°F the second you settle the cooler into the chamber. Which if you get it right gives you a convection heating on one side and slight conduction on the other (tripped me out cause the side with the heat post doesn't always vaporize the chloroform in the material leaving it almost like you ran it thru at 160c but it has no smell and turns to dust as it pours out). Plus I cant seem to find any information on how the IF rays affect concentrates.

When it comes to Microdosing it is also better to leave the cooler so its about your pinky nail (wide) above the material. What ends up happening is with such little amounts, and im talking barely enough to cover the bottom, gets sucked up to the cooler screen and can be dangerous cause it almost instantly adds that conducted heat but its an easy learning curve to add Microdosing to its list of capabilities. It just so happens that the Aspire Celieto E-Juice Glass tank replacements are 80mm just not as thick so by adding that it kind of makes an extended Mouthpiece but the glass is absolute crap so be really careful. Im trying to make a 3D printed Whip adapter but im honestly not huge on running thru waterpipes but for the sake of testing I wanna try it but driving to the University and paying them to use the machine blows (I need to befriend a student to get his ass to give me his ID# for the student discount)

As far as combustion goes your Temp settings & Draw rate are the most important things; at lvl 5 (standard) you can boost with dark brown ABV and as long as you keep increasing your draw speed the crispier it gets you'll be ok. Ive only gone to 7 (I have'nt played enough with the warm-up times to feel comfortable enough to adjust the boost to fit with higher temos so if you go above 6 and boost you might combust no matter if you're Iron Lungs Mcgee) and that was more like taking a wide open breath filled with massive amounts of vapor quickly followed by the removal of the chamber cause it started blackening the material on the bottom from the stagnant heat.

Posted accidentally but thats a huge post as is.

 

[Azn2101]

Ok @Abysmal Vapor the pic is up on my Imgur account under the same username: Azn2101 but it's not great but you can kinda see the darkened spot but not really. I put a chamber there with a only used once screen (that still hasn't turned color) sorry it took so long lol

PLUS a surprise Pic for all you Apollo owners.

First NON GHETTO, airtight WPA! or just if you wanna sip on it thru tubing to get some draw resistance that works too by slipping on ot thru a lamaet hose + cork (the one I have on the picture) but I also have a tapering piece of glass that fits thru the cork enough to get 14mm tubing or atleast for a 14mm WPA to attach to a Waterpipe.

Lamart Cork + 10mm tubing (Lamart Whip + Whip Inserts) + Sticky Brick Labs Waterpipe adapter accessory = First non Ghetto Apollo WPA

 

[Abysmal Vapor]

Ok @Abysmal Vapor the pic is up on my Imgur account under the same username: Azn2101 but it's not great but you can kinda see the darkened spot but not really. I put a chamber there with a only used once screen (that still hasn't turned color) sorry it took so long lol

PLUS a surprise Pic for all you Apollo owners.

First NON GHETTO, airtight WPA! or just if you wanna sip on it thru tubing to get some draw resistance that works too by slipping on ot thru a lamaet hose + cork (the one I have on the picture) but I also have a tapering piece of glass that fits thru the cork enough to get 14mm tubing or atleast for a 14mm WPA to attach to a Waterpipe.

Lamart Cork + 10mm tubing (Lamart Whip + Whip Inserts) + Sticky Brick Labs Waterpipe adapter accessory = First non Ghetto Apollo WPA

Can you post a link,i cannot seem to find you via the search funtion of the site.

 

[Azn2101]

Can you post a link,i cannot seem to find you via the search funtion of the site.

Ya give me a sec. Someone just taught me how haha.

 

[Abysmal Vapor]

Well metals get colored/discolored with heat. Btw i burn off all my screens with a torch prior use because most of the mesh they use in China has a layer of protective film,which smoke like shit when torched.
Imo one should burn off all screens prior using or installing them in a unit,because otherwise it will be the users lungs that are going to suffer.
Please have in mind that your unit is probably burned off at a higher heat setting which you never use with herb at least for a prolonged period of time.Discoloration usually happens after 300-400C mark,that is why your second screen will probably never get as discolored with use.

 

[Azn2101]

Well metals get colored/discolored with heat. Btw i burn off all my screens with a torch prior use because most of the mesh they use in China has a layer of protective film,which smoke like shit when torched.
Imo one should burn off all screens prior using or installing them in a unit,because otherwise it will be the users lungs that are going to suffer.
Please have in mind that your unit is probably burned off at a higher heat setting which you never use with herb at least for a prolonged period of time.Discoloration usually happens after 300-400C mark,that is why your second screen will probably never get as discolored with use.

Yeah, he actually has it set for the next time it gets turned on to run at above lvl 10 or 100% heat for an "Initial Burnoff" which I remembered thinking if this thing is this bright every time im gonna need some sun glasses but as the 40sec haptic timer went off you could see it drop to a less bright, but still bright as the sun, then by the fifth vibration it mellowed down.

 

[Namaja]

Hi, i just came here for two question :

-How are you suppose to change the lightbulb on the apollo? do you need a screwdriver? A video showing the processus will be perfect (if im not asking too much)

-Are the lightbulbs purchasable somewhere else that on the venus site? (in case of one day the site disappear again)

Thanks

 

[Azn2101]

Hi, i just came here for two question :

-How are you suppose to change the lightbulb on the apollo? do you need a screwdriver? A video showing the processus will be perfect (if im not asking too much)

-Are the lightbulbs purchasable somewhere else that on the venus site? (in case of one day the site disappear again)

Thanks

Of course, i'll add the process of removing the heat post cover to get to the Bulb, theres a good picture if it without the heatpost on Bud's Apollo Forum but ill add the switching of bulbs to the video, it's not hard and you'll need an an allen wrench and a pair of gloves so you don't touch the Bulb with your bare hands but thats it. Yes I bought a 3 pack just incase but he threw in an extra one for free too. Heres the link to the 50w Bulb in the EU store.
website http://www.venusvaporizer.com/shop/index.php?route=product/product&path=61&product_id=125

Im waiting on his approval of the video before putting it up on YT. He might also put it up on his page that way it will be easier to look for when searching for Apollo videos

Oh I get you @Namaja, like if the site goes down again. Yes there are plenty of places that carry 50w Halogen Bulbs that look exactly the same on Ebay but it's been a month or a little less so I'll have to look it up again, but again. Yes there are other ways to obtain 50w bulbs. They aren't uniquely built or designed for the Apollo. His #1 & #2 goals with the Venus & Apollo and now the Helios & Apollo2.5 (20w or 50w) were Health and safety. If you look at The Vape Critics pictures of a stripped down model the most important and really only non replacable parts are the PC Board behind the touch pad

 

[Azn2101]

Ok I was totally off base with how to remove the Bulb. Its Difficylt but Easy in a sense but heres how the man himself described, and I quote:

"It is not too easy to change the bulb, but the good thing is that it should be a very rare thing to ever need to change it. I admit even for me it is not the easiest thing to do. It requires removal of the Small stainless steel screen/mesh from the top of the heater..just push it down as there is a Small Groove in which it usually stays


the bulb will be visible. now how to remove it, you should have a tool for this, I have taken some quite strong solid steel wire, that can be bent just a little bit at the other end so that it Still fits between the stainless sleeve and the bulb, and then this bent part can be placed between the legs of the bulb and just lift up to remove the old bulb.


this is usually pretty easy. the tricky part is to get the new bulb in Place. As the halogen lamp holder has contacts and you should get the new bulb dropped in correct position and orientation at these contacts and then push it down..but visibility is very Limited and difficult position as the apollo Wood has just this Small slot on the side and then far away on the top the opening. I have used a piece of tubing that I can get a little bit on the bulb, and use it as a handle to move the bulb around..and when finally in the correct orientation, to push it down when it seems to go in. And then to remove the tubing so carefully it won’t lift up the bulb out of the socket. so there are many challenges, I would not do this for fun But interestingly, never has anyone sent their unit for us to change the bulb, so either bulbs last or they change them at home." - Ville

I'll take a Picture of the tool (it's actually a thing that came with a Dab tool set lol) to show you guys but as he said it's a rare thing =).

I cannot go into specific detail because of who it involves but this is the truth about a *6 Week turn around for Parts* and it is NOT true.

"Hi, the 6 week thing came from one customer whose order had been forgotten by mistake, and he was delivered with extras for free as a compensation. But it is true that now it seems to take longer for the packages to get delivered trough the customs in the USA" - Ville

New Apollo2.5's (20w & 50w) were being built today and look Gorgeous!

 

[CheebaChiefer]

Ok I was totally off base with how to remove the Bulb. Its Difficylt but Easy in a sense but heres how the man himself described, and I quote:

"It is not too easy to change the bulb, but the good thing is that it should be a very rare thing to ever need to change it. I admit even for me it is not the easiest thing to do. It requires removal of the Small stainless steel screen/mesh from the top of the heater..just push it down as there is a Small Groove in which it usually stays


the bulb will be visible. now how to remove it, you should have a tool for this, I have taken some quite strong solid steel wire, that can be bent just a little bit at the other end so that it Still fits between the stainless sleeve and the bulb, and then this bent part can be placed between the legs of the bulb and just lift up to remove the old bulb.


this is usually pretty easy. the tricky part is to get the new bulb in Place. As the halogen lamp holder has contacts and you should get the new bulb dropped in correct position and orientation at these contacts and then push it down..but visibility is very Limited and difficult position as the apollo Wood has just this Small slot on the side and then far away on the top the opening. I have used a piece of tubing that I can get a little bit on the bulb, and use it as a handle to move the bulb around..and when finally in the correct orientation, to push it down when it seems to go in. And then to remove the tubing so carefully it won’t lift up the bulb out of the socket. so there are many challenges, I would not do this for fun But interestingly, never has anyone sent their unit for us to change the bulb, so either bulbs last or they change them at home." - Ville

I'll take a Picture of the tool (it's actually a thing that came with a Dab tool set lol) to show you guys but as he said it's a rare thing =).

I cannot go into specific detail because of who it involves but this is the truth about a *6 Week turn around for Parts* and it is NOT true.

"Hi, the 6 week thing came from one customer whose order had been forgotten by mistake, and he was delivered with extras for free as a compensation. But it is true that now it seems to take longer for the packages to get delivered trough the customs in the USA" - Ville

New Apollo2.5's (20w & 50w) were being built today and look Gorgeous!

Since I'm out of Stu's corner, thought I would drop in one last time. I have, to a large extent enjoyed my time on this board but it is time to move on, VAS is a debilitating condition. Recently bought a Milaana 2 from RBT and it was delivered in THREE DAYS! Ordered on 12/03/18 and it was delivered on 12/06/18, this is astounding. It is a USA vendor so that explains alot. Easy, quick access to parts and service. The owner is present and intimately involved in production. The unit is simplicity itself, one button operation, little that can go wrong.

My Apollo 2.0's (which are no different from the so-called 2.5) will go on a shelf with all my other back bencher vapes. Bsed on some comments by Hogni and others the Apollo is a niche vape at best, I don't have overall sales figures, but I would be suprised if Venus ever sold more than a few hundred world wide.

It will be nice to deal with an American craftsman, who speaks my language and who can ship a vape in only three(3) days! Even Puff-It-Up never got goods to me that fast.

Adios and good luck in your vaping future.

Sorry about the quote above, not sure how I even accomplished that?

 

[Andreaerdna]

@CheebaChiefer
Sorry you decided to go. I appreciated you trying to sort me out with glass tubes when ville wasn’t responding this summer, you seems a kind caring person. Ville left here and went stealth for a while but afaik we do not know what happened (personal troubles?)and he was always responding til then and responding to everybody.

 

[CheebaChiefer]

Andreaerdna thanks for the kind words! As you may know I have plenty of glass tubes, so I offered. No biggie really. Please keep an eye on them! One of my tubes in regular rotation, has a small chip in it's lip. I suspect this occurs after a few re-inserts of the tube into the Apollo, that little "hitch" you feel is the glass banging into the metal insert.

 

[sickmanfraud]

bought a Milaana 2 from RBT and it was delivered in THREE DAYS!

He has s Flash Sale now 42% off today only.