Cannabis Hardware (formerly NewVape) FlowerPot Twax Vaporizer

[juxt]

If you already have the dnail dish I wouldn't recommend do anything.

Thanks for the info and the options, I would like to clarify on this point just in case ... I do have the 28mm dish, but if something happens in the future I'm going to want to be able to replace it, are you planning to leave this 're-machine' option on the site longer term? If not, how long would you say we have to submit our order so I can plan for that?

 

[graydeh1]

Thanks for the info and the options, I would like to clarify on this point just in case ... I do have the 28mm dish, but if something happens in the future I'm going to want to be able to replace it, are you planning to leave this 're-machine' option on the site longer term? If not, how long would you say we have to submit our order so I can plan for that?

I had this question too that's why my heart started racing initially, but with the option 2 listed here by newvape I'm just going to go for that to be compatible moving forward.

 

[juxt]

I agree bro, I just got jipped $900 on a hex nail deal and will need to hold off until that's solved. If it stays open for a few months I'm probably good though and would just order it then.

 

[Roth]

proposed "vrod rev-c update bundle" take 2

@Stonocrates makes some good points.

These sic dishes are produced in a mold so unlike quartz they are all exactly the same. It took 4 months to have the mold made and for the dishes to arrive. There's no sending them back. We must work around this challenge.

1) purchase the vrod rev-c update bundle (a special sku will be created).
2) we will ship you a sic dish, vrod top, and vrod carb cap and a return pre paid label.
3) if you would prefer the keep your vrod top and carbcap there will be a $30 upcharge.
4) this offer is for existing vrod customers only.

Please understand that the amount of material being removed is .0025" per side (width of a piece of paper).
I can't imagine this has having any impact on the dnail and quartz dish performance.

In hind sight I should have held off on releasing the vrod until these dishes arrived.

Just to confirm, as a Vrod Rev A owner, I should NOT purchase the new SiC dish that is now in stock:

https://www.newvape.com/sic-dish-28mm

I should wait til a separate '28mm SiC Dish Upgrade' sku is available, correct?

 

[Vaporware]

proposed "vrod rev-c update bundle" take 2

@Stonocrates makes some good points.

These sic dishes are produced in a mold so unlike quartz they are all exactly the same. It took 4 months to have the mold made and for the dishes to arrive. There's no sending them back. We must work around this challenge.

1) purchase the vrod rev-c update bundle (a special sku will be created).
2) we will ship you a sic dish, vrod top, and vrod carb cap and a return pre paid label.
3) if you would prefer the keep your vrod top and carbcap there will be a $30 upcharge.
4) this offer is for existing vrod customers only.

Please understand that the amount of material being removed is .0025" per side (width of a piece of paper).
I can't imagine this has having any impact on the dnail and quartz dish performance.

In hind sight I should have held off on releasing the vrod until these dishes arrived.

I agree bro, I just got jipped $900 on a hex nail deal and will need to hold off until that's solved. If it stays open for a few months I'm probably good though and would just order it then.

@NewVape710 ’s post I quoted above indicates no or minimal cost and you never have to be without your VRod so hopefully you’ll be able to take advantage of it soon.

Just to confirm, as a Vrod Rev A owner, I should NOT purchase the new SiC dish that is now in stock:

https://www.newvape.com/sic-dish-28mm

I should wait til a separate '28mm SiC Dish Upgrade' sku is available, correct?

That seems to be the case since it wouldn’t fit your current VRod, but for anyone looking to buy a new VRod and dish, they said from today on they’ll be shipping the Rev C VRods that will fit those dishes.

If you want to get the process started early you might try contacting them by phone or email, but hopefully the right sku will be posted soon.

 

[JCat]

Seconded. That "plan b" offer is very generous.

I'll see how I like the dnail dish first before I decide.

Is there any chance of putting the center hole back in with rev3 and just letting those who don't want it plug the hole?

I'm getting a slight ring with Rev. b. Would like to try with the middle airhole for sure.

Cheers and thanks Edwyn, u tha man.

I much prefer with the middle air hole. I added the plug, and it vapes unevenly when I do so. It vapes perfectly no stirring required, with the middle hole (uncapped @ 565-590 with a nice slow draw).

I'm glad I got mine before they removed the hole

 

[Vapor Loop]

The funniest thing I read this morning was about being deprived of an expensive medical device like it is a matter of life and death. NV doesnt claim to make medical devices. Do you know how expensive this shit would be if you did claim it was a medical device?

I honestly feel where there coming from if it's there only serious vaporizer to medicate with. I think the fact it would just hike up cost is the only reason they don't make the medical claim. The S&b devices have a so called medical version they don't offer in the states, What are the changes that make that one a medical device? I certainly use my Sh for medical purposes that my Dr approves of.



I had a major injury a few months back and probably would have died if i didn't have my Sh to medicate with. I can't take pain pills regularly like normal people so i require a heavy hitting medical vaporizer. I also have a Dr approved asthma tincture i vape and dab with and can certainly die without. I do have other better suited things for dabbing in the flavor department but just not as potent as twaxing.

proposed "vrod rev-c update bundle" take 2

@Stonocrates makes some good points.



These sic dishes are produced in a mold so unlike quartz they are all exactly the same. It took 4 months to have the mold made and for the dishes to arrive. There's no sending them back. We must work around this challenge.

1) purchase the vrod rev-c update bundle (a special sku will be created).
2) we will ship you a sic dish, vrod top, and vrod carb cap and a return pre paid label.
3) if you would prefer the keep your vrod top and carbcap there will be a $30 upcharge.
4) this offer is for existing vrod customers only.

Please understand that the amount of material being removed is .0025" per side (width of a piece of paper).
I can't imagine this has having any impact on the dnail and quartz dish performance.

In hind sight I should have held off on releasing the vrod until these dishes arrived.

I see why now thanks for the clarification. I also like how ya'll are handling this and look forward to purchasing my Vrod in the near future.

 

[wildman420]

@Vapor Loop - I am not doubting the claims that people use it to medicate with. But its not a medical device. The amount of BS you need to go through to claim that is ridiculous and expensive. Most people here have a drawer full of old equipment I am sure that someone could have survived a few days without the VROD. NewVape has stood tall and revised their plan which is great.

Regarding the "Ring" I hadn't been getting the ring. I was using the 14mm post with the shovel head bowl. I switched rigs and was using my 18mm post with the pan head bowl and I got the ring every time.

One thing I noticed and it could be related to my glass and how far the post sits down but the Panhead on the 18mm joint makes for a shallower bowl. The flower is physically closer to the heat source. the design of the VROD is excellent in that provides maximum surface area for heating up the air on intake but my guess is that when the material is too close to the head it doesnt have enough space to "mix" and you get little micro streams and those holes are concentrated on the outside ring. IMO - taking out that center hole was good because the air pathway is always going to take the path of least resistance which is going to put more down the center and less around the edges which isnt as efficient. the other potential difference is that the 18mm would flow a lot better and the 14mm restriction would create a little more mixing.

Maybe this weekend if I get bored I will experiment around with different bowls, joints, etc. and see what happens. There are just too many variables that can affect things - draw speed, glass, temperature, grind, RH of the flower, etc. It is the curse of the Flowerpot but it is also what I love about it....there is absolutely nothing better than when you get this thing dialed in.

 

[Hogni]

The Mighty "Medic" is the same as the regular one. It's just certified by TüV as suitable for medical use and therefore as a medical device. As such it can be prescripted by a MD and health insurance pays for it (+100€ compared th the regular Mighty) if you are a approved medical cannbis patient. Process of certification costs xxxxxK.

 

[Stonocrates]

@Vapor LoopBut its not a medical device. The amount of BS you need to go through to claim that is ridiculous and expensive. Most people here have a drawer full of old equipment I am sure that someone could have survived a few days without the VROD.

Is it even possible to certify a device for cannabis vaporization as a medical device in the USA? If that's certification comes from the FDA, and cannabis is still Schedule 1 according to the Feds, wouldn't that make it difficult? Not trying to be a smartass, I'm genuinely ignorant about the legalities here. Maybe medical as an aromatherapy or inhalant device, but not specifically for cannabis? Like I said, I don't know anything about this...

Sure, I could get by for a week without my Flowerpot, but I shouldn't have to do so. All my alternatives are a step down from the FP, I spent a lot on the FP, and this problem was not of my own making or due to predictable maintenance requirements.

NewVape has come through with a solution that should makes just about everyone happy, but that probably wouldn't have happened if customers hadn't raised their voices. I'm not a fan of "sit back and take it" as a consumer. You may well be, but that doesn't mean the rest of us should be.

 

[Vapor Loop]

So mine is in fact a medical device? I don't use cannabis not that i wouldn't love to. I just don't wan't all the bs that currently comes along with it and i'm only in medical states. I could get a place in D.c but not really my kinda place and highly costly. I use hemp and a asthma tincture in mine, My Dr would much rather me use the Sh than a crafty or mighty.




I noticed i'm a lot lower on my temp with the controller Nv offers on there site.

 

[ViCKi LEEKX]

On Monday morning I initiated a chargeback with my CC company for my D-Nail order. Yesterday evening D-Nail issued my refund.

”Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of our vapes...”

 

[Baron23]

I think we are missing the forest for looking at the trees.

1. Medical device, as in certified by some government agency and/or paid for by insurance = NO

2. Medical device, as in a device we who are med marijuana patients use with MJ as a more healthful alternative to a wide array of pharma for our medical conditions, many of which are quite severe = YES

I think perhaps @wildman420 is looking at case #1 above and not #2. If @wildman420 is not a MMJ patient, then perhaps this is all outside of his personal experience. But that doesn't make these being medical devices for MMJ patients any less valid, IMO.

 

[Vapor Loop]

@steama I use Hemp and a Asthma tincture in mine mainly. I hope D-nail don't go away i really wanted a nectar collector coil.

 

[Danksta]

Is it even possible to certify a device for cannabis vaporization as a medical device in the USA? If that's certification comes from the FDA, and cannabis is still Schedule 1 according to the Feds, wouldn't that make it difficult? Not trying to be a smartass, I'm genuinely ignorant about the legalities here. Maybe medical as an aromatherapy or inhalant device, but not specifically for cannabis? Like I said, I don't know anything about this...

Sure, I could get by for a week without my Flowerpot, but I shouldn't have to do so. All my alternatives are a step down from the FP, I spent a lot on the FP, and this problem was not of my own making or due to predictable maintenance requirements.

NewVape has come through with a solution that should makes just about everyone happy, but that probably wouldn't have happened if customers hadn't raised their voices. I'm not a fan of "sit back and take it" as a consumer. You may well be, but that doesn't mean the rest of us should be.

I think the CNC machining facility is FDA certified not the actual products. If that makes sense. Most likey some test(s) they had to pass to get that. Don't they make other stuff besides vape? Pretty sure they started off as something else if I recall.

 

[wildman420]

I think the CNC machining facility is FDA certified not the actual products. If that makes sense. Most likey some test(s) they had to pass to get that. Don't they make other stuff besides vape? Pretty sure they started off as something else if I recall.

Remember FDA also includes food... they could be making food prep equipment or other medical devices. There is a difference.

 

[wildman420]

I think we are missing the forest for looking at the trees.

1. Medical device, as in certified by some government agency and/or paid for by insurance = NO

2. Medical device, as in a device we who are med marijuana patients use with MJ as a more healthful alternative to a wide array of pharma for our medical conditions, many of which are quite severe = YES

I think perhaps @wildman420 is looking at case #1 above and not #2. If @wildman420 is not a MMJ patient, then perhaps this is all outside of his personal experience. But that doesn't make these being medical devices for MMJ patients any less valid, IMO.

Yes I am looking at #1. My point was that the OP was really stretching the whole medical equipment thing.... there are plenty of ways to medicate. Not as enjoyable as the FP but its not like they were not going to be able to medicate during the swap out.

It is really a moot point... NV stood tall and is once again taking care of everyone that is affected.

 

[ChurroForSure-O]

So I did an experiment with the Vrod cap, because I’m currently obsessed with spinning ruby spheres. My goal was to drill two more holes in an equilateral triangle formation (did not get the third hole drilled before getting eager to test it). I took a thin file to angle the holes to direct airflow into a somewhat circular path. This got my 5mm spheres spinning around the dnail Sic with ease! I’m wondering if NV would allow me to buy another VRod cap, with 3 smaller holes rather than the one bigger one...

https://imgur.com/a/ZvRf9KQ

 

[invertedisdead]

That's cool, that's kinda like the old highly educated carb caps that had 3 holes. I was thinking recently about two smaller angled holes going in opposing directions to promote Venturi + turbulence at the dish. Kinda like the Gordo Scientific caps.

 

[ChurroForSure-O]

That's cool, that's kinda like the old highly educated carb caps that had 3 holes. I was thinking recently about two smaller angled holes going in opposing directions to promote Venturi + turbulence at the dish. Kinda like the Gordo Scientific caps.

That would probably work perfect, since my two holes worked just fine to push the balls. It did open up the air path quite a bit so my temps had to be readjusted, which made me think maybe three holes would be too much open air and not enough restriction. That’s why these holes would need to be a tad smaller.

 

[Cannabis-Hardware-Ed]

I just got off the phone with Dnail they informed me we should have the their SIC dishes back in stock within 2 weeks. They must be reading this feed. I'm thrilled to report that everything seems ok in dnail land.

 

[Stonocrates]

This got my 5mm spheres spinning around the dnail Sic with ease! I’m wondering if NV would allow me to buy another VRod cap, with 3 smaller holes rather than the one bigger one...

My spheres are 6mm, of course... When I tried the fit in my 28mm quartz halos, they were too tight to move comfortably. I may have to find some 5mm's. Another reason we really need transparent carb caps!

I did find a glass wax container that fits very nicely, actually. I just need a way to drill a couple of small angled holes through it...

 

[graydeh1]

https://imgur.com/a/cErSUAw

So I ordered tha dhgate stevemlnz (popular glass) it's a minimum of two purchase.
I think it cost me $20 Canadian shipped for the two, one came with the handle broken off , I contacted the seller they asked me not to dispute and to send a picture and they will send me another one out. I started using it last night and really liked it, it tastes great. I'm filling it up about halfway with some pretty fine grind and stirring every couple hits.

 

[tb42091]

So VAS got the best of me, and with my enail sitting idle, it only cost me like 130 with shipping to get a FP SH. It's out for delivery right now and I hope it will be delivered in the next 2 or 3 hours. So excited! Also ordered some of those glass bowls from stevenlmz, so happy to hear they work well! Will update later after using it!

 

[hoyo77]

Getting ready to pull the trigger on the Vrod....if i order the dnail sic dish with it..will i have to have the vrod modified for it to fit or is the issue just with the newvape sic dishes???