The Nomad From Morwood

[Copacetic]

@sixstringsmash.......
.........the purrrfect sliding fit with my LG branded cells. I'll wait to see how others feel.
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I feel that I'd like to be able to fit all 18650s Dan.
But if it turns out that more folk want the snug fit then I'll happily defer to your advice.
In fact, if the looser fit would demand a complete re-jig, or impact the overall dimensions, or increase your workload, then I'd prefer to stick with your original, tight plan.

When the positive first-impressions started rolling into my inbox... man.. the relief I felt was huge. There is always that little nagging thought that your project will somehow flop.

Even when past experience has shown you to be a champ Dan, It's definitely good to read those first impressions, congrats

 

[Kalessin]

For mine, I think I'd like the snug fit. The sandpapering to fix it if it is slightly too tight looks really simple, especially if I'm actually sent the sandpaper with the device like Dan has talked about

 

[GreenHopper]

HealthyRips Dosing Capsules are back in stock.

Not sure if anyone with a Nomad tried them in the stems or not but now's your chance.

https://www.healthyrips.com/store/p45/FURY_&_FURY_2:_Set_of_5_Dosing_Capsules.html

 

[KeroZen]

@Kalessin: it's too tight already at the bronze plate level, not just the wood.

All Samsung cells I have don't fit: 25R, 30Q, and those are super common. Same with the Vappower rewraps, but that was expected. I imagine it will be the same with all rewrap brands like Efest, AWT, Imren, Basen etc.

From a post above it looks like Sony cells are also out.

LG cells I have do fit but they are super tight and make a syringe noise when you pull them out "shh'pop!". That's too tight already. I tested with LG HE4, HG2 and HB6.

Ruling out 2/3 of the possible cells we can use just to prevent an hypothetical rattling you guys imagine could happen is not acceptable. Besides it would not rattle because you need to have the contact arm very tight at all times.

 

[Kalessin]

@Kalessin: it's too tight already at the bronze plate level, not just the wood.

All Samsung cells I have don't fit: 25R, 30Q, and those are super common. Same with the Vappower rewraps, but that was expected. I imagine it will be the same with all rewrap brands like Efest, AWT, Imren, Basen etc.

From a post above it looks like Sony cells are also out.

LG cells I have do fit but they are super tight and make a syringe noise when you pull them out "shh'pop!". That's too tight already.

Ruling out 2/3 of the possible cells we can use just to prevent an hypothetical rattling you guys imagine could happen is not acceptable. Besides it would not rattle because you need to have the contact arm very tight at all times.

I didn't realize it was so serious, I knew at least one person said sanding fixed their fitment issue so I thought it was just the wood shifting

 

[sixstringsmash]

I didn't realize it was so serious, I knew at least one person said sanding fixed their fitment issue so I thought it was just the wood shifting

With some batteries it very well probably would just be a sanding issue. But with some batteries, my 30q for example, the battery won't even slide past the bronze plate so no amount of sanding would allow them to fit unless you also sanded down the brass plate in the process.

Also I believe the person who mentioned sanding fixing their fitment issue was referring to the heater module hole and not the battery hole.

 

[Dan Morrison]

I'll most definitely increase the hole diameter for future batches.

I thought I could get away with looking at the official battery spec sheets from the various manufacturers... and then be sure that I was within' their listed size tolerance range... but I guess the real world doesn't always line up!

I guess this is one of those cases where tight tolerances are to be avoided.

Making the battery hole bigger doesn't change any of my setups, tooling, or outside dimensions. So it's a simple change for me.

I wonder, @KeroZen, do you have a digital caliper handy?

Also, my LG HE4's fit with a bit of play, so obviously there is a size range that these cells must come in from the factory.

I check every Nomad hole with calipers as I go, and work to a tight tolerance.

 

[Fat Freddy]

HealthyRips Dosing Capsules are back in stock.

Not sure if anyone with a Nomad tried them in the stems or not but now's your chance.

https://www.healthyrips.com/store/p45/FURY_&_FURY_2:_Set_of_5_Dosing_Capsules.html

Yep, one of the first things I tried some weeks ago, but no luck.

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[Ramahs]

I'm glad that the "user serviceable" aspect is being put to the test with positive results! That was one of my main design points...and it's exciting to see it come full circle.

That is something I VERY MUCH appreciate in ANY product. I like to be able to fix things. I prefer to avoid disposable things.

 

[GreenHopper]

Yep, one of the first things I tried some weeks ago, but no luck.

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Thanks FF, didn't realise it had been tested and reported.

 

[CL52613]

Just based on the information from Ken-Zero, I believe Dan fell victim to his meticulous standards when depending on the stated + or - published by battery makers. Personally I cannot imagine making the battery compartment tight, I want the battery to fall out, not having to be pulled out. If it requires any grip pressure to remove the battery, I will need to use a pair of pliers to grab and pull. And as is being experienced, the batteries like Dan uses in his Nomad seem to fit, though Ken-Zero thinks they are still tight, and he is a straight shooter and provides quality feedback and information. Dan, I have a dial caliper and will have some Sony VTC6 batteries tomorrow so will provide you with those dimensions from a reliable seller of only verified Branded batteries. I wanted to get the LG but they were temporarily out of stock, and the Sony's came highly recommended. I do applaud your exactitude but you must remember, disposable products intended for home or recreational use have only the broadest of tolerance guidelines. Battery length has to be uniform, but thickness tolerances can be much less critical. Also agree with Ken-Zero regarding potential rattling of the battery in the Nomad? Connector bar for the battery to heater would prevent the battery from rattling unless it breaks or something. I believe all the batteries sold that can power the Nomad should be able to easily slide in and out of the body, including the re-wrapped. The last thing I want to do is have to fight to replace a battery, though the pliers will always be handy since I will need to use them to loosen and tighten the connector bar. Sorry about the interruption, but since this is kind of polling the battery issue, I am for a loose but not sloppy fit.

 

[marduk]

Yep, one of the first things I tried some weeks ago, but no luck.

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Was it no luck as in the capsules didn't even fit into the stem?

 

[Fat Freddy]

Was it no luck as in the capsules didn't even fit into the stem?

To my surprise, the capsules were too small for the stem. Sorry, I should have reported that sooner.

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[little maggie]

One thing I worry about with the Nomad is it needing some kind of adjustments to itself. I am totally unhandy. If the battery doesn't fit and something needs to be sanded I'll have to send it back to Dan to do that. (And yes, I know how stupid this sounds but I was never very handy or I was only left handy which had limitations and now my hands shake quite a bit.) So I vote for mine to fit all the batteries without modification.

 

[Summer]

An image fix for Chrome & Firefox:

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/what’s-up-with-imgur.29564/#post-1272070

Added to firefox & works perfectly.

 

[Ramahs]

An image fix for Chrome & Firefox:

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/what’s-up-with-imgur.29564/#post-1272070

Added to firefox & works perfectly.

Cool. Thanks. I'll have to try this when I get home later.

 

[Bdubbdiblets]

Quick!! Someone post something with a pretty Nomad in it!!! We are suffering here!!!

If I don't hear more reviews and pics/vids soon Nomad VAS could swallow me whole...

Perhaps too much quality vapor and you've all gone Nomad!!!

 

[Dan Morrison]

In other news!

The care packages were sent out.

I'll be making a more detailed post about this with pictorial... but in short, I've included all the supplies to easily and quickly:

1. Disassemble, clean, lube, the fire button
2. Clean or enlarge the heater module hole
3. Insert a durable 316 SS screen into the wooden body

I will be encouraging everyone to clean and lube the button at least.

I think that while the Nomads were waiting on my workbench, the bronze tarnished slightly, causing some initial 'hot button' issues. After a clean/lube, I've had reports of a full cure of said issue, and a performance increases.

I didn't notice this issue with my personal Nomad because I used brass for my back plate, which tarnishes slower than bronze.

Once the lube is applied, the button also feels much smoother, easier to press. And the bronze, since it's not exposed to air, will tarnish much much slower...if at all. Time will tell!

 

[Shit Snacks]

In other news!

The care packages were sent out.

I'll be making a more detailed post about this with pictorial... but in short, I've included all the supplies to easily and quickly:

1. Disassemble, clean, lube, the fire button
2. Clean or enlarge the heater module hole
3. Insert a durable 316 SS screen into the wooden body

I will be encouraging everyone to clean and lube the button at least.

I think that while the Nomads were waiting on my workbench, the bronze tarnished slightly, causing some initial 'hot button' issues. After a clean/lube, I've had reports of a full cure of said issue, and a performance increases.

I didn't notice this issue with my personal Nomad because I used brass for my back plate, which tarnishes slower than bronze.

Once the lube is applied, the button also feels much smoother, easier to press. And the bronze, since it's not exposed to air, will tarnish much much slower...if at all. Time will tell!

I presume mine will come pre lubed though? I really don't want or planned to mess with that myself if possible lol

 

[Dan Morrison]

Haha, yep. It will. All Nomads going out from now on will come pre-lubed.

 

[Summer]

I didn't notice this issue with my personal Nomad because I used brass for my back plate, which tarnishes slower than bronze.

It is feasible to use brass plates if requested?

 

[sixstringsmash]

You guys know what today is?

STEAMROLLER SATURDAY

 

[CL52613]

Okay people, it has been a while since you lucky first batchers received your Nomads, so how about some feedback on its performance. Vapor production, quality of vapor, battery life, stir or not necessary, which heater you prefer, ease of use, etc. Hearing nothing about the Nomad's performance is kind of odd. They are without a doubt the most beautiful and skillfully crafted vaporizer on the market, in my humble opinion, but bottom line is how it performs compared to other unregulated on-demand convection vaporizers. The Nomad is an expensive vaporizer, probably one of the most expensive portable vaporizers, and its workmanship, attention to details, and quality of materials is at the top of the class, so the price is understandable. Understandable only if the Nomad performs as well as it looks, or at least as well as any others currently available. So please, give those of us patiently waiting for our own to be built and delivered, your honest assessment of how your Nomad is performing.

 

[GreenHopper]

Just an FYI, @Dan Morrison is still working on mine and it will be the last to ship from batch 1.

I've told him I'm in no rush and would rather he takes his time and incorporates any amendments identified such as widening the battery compartment and including a heater screen.

I'm currently waiting on a mockup of my custom design but again @Dan Morrison, I'm in no rush.

 

[RelaxedNow]

Okay people, it has been a while since you lucky first batchers received your Nomads, so how about some feedback on its performance. Vapor production, quality of vapor, battery life, stir or not necessary, which heater you prefer, ease of use, etc. Hearing nothing about the Nomad's performance is kind of odd. They are without a doubt the most beautiful and skillfully crafted vaporizer on the market, in my humble opinion, but bottom line is how it performs compared to other unregulated on-demand convection vaporizers. The Nomad is an expensive vaporizer, probably one of the most expensive portable vaporizers, and its workmanship, attention to details, and quality of materials is at the top of the class, so the price is understandable. Understandable only if the Nomad performs as well as it looks, or at least as well as any others currently available. So please, give those of us patiently waiting for our own to be built and delivered, your honest assessment of how your Nomad is performing.

My Nomad is working great, and I love it. The only issue I’ve had is the too-strong (for me) spring. Occasionally, I’ll get no heat, only to realize it’s because I’ve let up slightly on the button (usually on the 3rd or later draw, for the obvious reason). It’s an easy fix though, and Dan is addressing it.

Aside from the above, this thing is wrecking me. Speaking subjectively, I believe it gets me higher faster than any of my other vapes.

On an objective (?) note, I was hospitalized Friday night by a significant runaway high blood pressure incident, heart attack symptoms and all (fun times). When the paramedics came, and saw my herbs and my Nomad on the coffee table, they gave me the speech about the dangers of demon weed and it’s effect on blood pressure. So, there you have it, MY NOMAD ALMOST KILLED ME! This thing, regardless of it’s diminutive size, is a BEAST! Be careful, or you too may suffer the woes of the Nomad.

I’ll end by stating my opinion that it’s worth every penny I paid for it. And if it kills me, I’ve asked my wife to be sure to list it in the FC classifieds, so it’ll go to a good home.