Brick vs. Lotus vs. Vapman

[dodgy_b]

Hey all. Got bit by the butane bug recently. Have an Omni and an M18. Would like to add another to the mix that's a different experience.

Can anyone chime in on the strengths of these 3? Also saw something called a vaponic mentioned here? Would be for flower only and natively (no water for now.)

Looking more for a bit better flavor than the VC. Kinda miss my FF2 but not it's quirks.

 

[GreenHopper]

One more for your quandary:

Vapor Lithe

As we all know VAS never ends.

Personally I'm leaning towards the Lotus but I hear that Vaponic being all glass offers the best flavour.

 

[Squiby]

I have all kinds of Vapcaps, three Vapman, two classic and a basic and two Lotus, high temp and regular.

I rate the Vapcap number 1 for vapor quality, ease of use, aesthetics, cleaning, the temperature indicating click, variety of heating options, convenience and just plain fun. I love the unique modularity aspect. The experience is akin to smoking a joint.

The Lotus comes in number 2. I find the vapor slightly more harsh. It's easy to clean and attractive but you have to apply the flame AS you toke. I don't enjoy have a flame close to my face. The experience is similar to smoking a pipe. It's great with water.

The Vapman is my least favorite. It used to be my DD but, then I found the Vapcap. The Vapman is attractive but an odd shape. Though comfortable in the hand it's fairly bulky so it bulges in a pocket. You must only use a single jet lighter or the desktop heating station. The heating duration is through trial and error. Loading can be finicky to precisely hit the pan and if not the bits burn off as you heat. To give it a good cleaning you need a screwdriver to remove the the screen. The air path is wood and cannot be completely cleaned. I find that it gets uncomfortably hot in my hand. The wood body is easy to char.

All three are excellent vaporizers, but the Vapcap wins hands down on every front. If you want another vape and don't want to expand into the wonderful world of Vapcap LEGO and after market artist options, then get a Lotus.

 

[Tiny88]

Here are the pros and cons for each:

Lotus

(pros):
- no taste of butane as the flame never comes in contact with the flower
- once you figure out your breath work, it can produce amazing clouds
- water adapter is great with any bong/rig
- pretty easy to clean
- very tasty vapors

(cons)
- little bit of a learning curve
- potential to combust
- not very discrete

Sticky Brick

(pros):
- people have complained about the taste of butane
- once you figure out your breath work, it can produce amazing clouds
- water adapter available as well
- pretty easy to clean

(cons)
- little bit of a learning curve
- potential to combust
- not very discrete

Vapman

(pros):
- no taste of butane as the flame never comes in contact with the flower
- very discrete
- doesn't have water adapter, if this matters to you
- pretty easy to clean

(cons)
- a little harder to use, pretty steep learning curve
- harder to produce big clouds

Hope this helps. There are other butane vapes you might want to consider; Vaponic (great little device, amazingly smooth, great flavor, and huge clouds once you master it ... however very steep learning curve), and the Mistvape Essence (similar to a Sticky Brick with respect to breath work, but a little bit more discrete)

Cheers,

Tiny

Thanks!

What makes the learning curve of the Vaponic so steep? Just combed their website and watched a vid. Looks like a really cool option

The learning curve is a little steep for the Vaponic as you need to count the seconds to heat things up... the time can be different depending on how dry your herb is, how you pack it, the strength of the flame (single flame torch vs. multi-flame), and how far the flame is to the chamber. Don't get me wrong I love the Vaponic, once you master it this vape will give you great flavor, and amazingly huge and smooth vapors. The issue is that this a quite a bit of trail and error of under heating and then combusting until you figure out with works for you. With a single flame torch lighter I heat the chamber for a count of 16 seconds, stop for 2 seconds, then heat 8 seconds, stop for 2 seconds, and then heat another 5 seconds.

 

[dodgy_b]

Here are the pros and cons for each:

Lotus

(pros):
- no taste of butane as the flame never comes in contact with the flower
- once you figure out your breath work, it can produce amazing clouds
- water adapter is great with any bong/rig
- pretty easy to clean
- very tasty vapors

(cons)
- little bit of a learning curve
- potential to combust
- not very discrete

Sticky Brick

(pros):
- people have complained about the taste of butane
- once you figure out your breath work, it can produce amazing clouds
- water adapter available as well
- pretty easy to clean

(cons)
- little bit of a learning curve
- potential to combust
- not very discrete

Vapman

(pros):
- no taste of butane as the flame never comes in contact with the flower
- very discrete
- doesn't have water adapter, if this matters to you
- pretty easy to clean

(cons)
- a little harder to use, pretty steep learning curve
- harder to produce big clouds

Hope this helps. There are other butane vapes you might want to consider; Vaponic (great little device, amazingly smooth, great flavor, and huge clouds once you master it ... however very steep learning curve), and the Mistvape Essence (similar to a Sticky Brick with respect to breath work, but a little bit more discrete)

Cheers,

Tiny

Thanks!

What makes the learning curve of the Vaponic so steep? Just combed their website and watched a vid. Looks like a really cool option

 

[wall]

I'll probably get a lotus next, have a sticky brick and an M, Don't like the sticky brick at all (the butane inhale doesn't do it for me) vap cap is great but I do love trying new vapes so the lotus it is! I like the zen type feel it has for when I'm feeling spiritual

 

[ataxian]

Here are the pros and cons for each:

Lotus

(pros):
- no taste of butane as the flame never comes in contact with the flower
- once you figure out your breath work, it can produce amazing clouds
- water adapter is great with any bong/rig
- pretty easy to clean
- very tasty vapors

(cons)
- little bit of a learning curve
- potential to combust
- not very discrete

Sticky Brick

(pros):
- people have complained about the taste of butane
- once you figure out your breath work, it can produce amazing clouds
- water adapter available as well
- pretty easy to clean

(cons)
- little bit of a learning curve
- potential to combust
- not very discrete

Vapman

(pros):
- no taste of butane as the flame never comes in contact with the flower
- very discrete
- doesn't have water adapter, if this matters to you
- pretty easy to clean

(cons)
- a little harder to use, pretty steep learning curve
- harder to produce big clouds

Hope this helps. There are other butane vapes you might want to consider; Vaponic (great little device, amazingly smooth, great flavor, and huge clouds once you master it ... however very steep learning curve), and the Mistvape Essence (similar to a Sticky Brick with respect to breath work, but a little bit more discrete)

Cheers,

Tiny

What is da function of wood?
2000 year's ago it was used for boat's.

I have both the "M" & LOTUS their both good!

 

[duff]

I have never tasted the butane with any of my Sticky Bricks.

IMO Sticky Bricks are perhaps the tastiest vapes out there for me. My mouth waters thinking about them.

Vapman tastes very good but doesn't have the power of the SBL lineup.

I'm not a fan of the Lithe however. Big clouds but the taste is not the greatest. I still have one but it doesn't get much use. Although I do whip it out occasionally.

 

[wall]

I have never tasted the butane with any of my Sticky Bricks.

IMO Sticky Bricks are perhaps the tastiest vapes out there for me. My mouth waters thinking about them.

Vapman tastes very good but doesn't have the power of the SBL lineup.

I'm not a fan of the Lithe however. Big clouds but the taste is not the greatest. I still have one but it doesn't get much use. Although I do whip it out occasionally.

You can always sell that lotus

 

[szai]

Vapman vs sbj I can comment on. I haven't yet figured out my vapman, last time I tried I think I ended up vaping the bud in my dynavap. The sbj I got pleasant results on my first bowls. It's quite nice but not really portable.

 

[natural farmer]

I'd get a Lotus if I were you, since you want a different experience. These two are the best of both worlds I think, as far as butane vapes go. Vapcap for conduction vapour and Lotus for full convection. Lotus is an amazing piece of engineering and produces exquisite vapour. One of the tastiest vapes I have ever used. It is especially good with water as it smooths down the harshness of the convection vapour. Easy to use if you have some brains and very easy to clean. Get a few replacement chrome plates just in case.

I wouldn't recommend the Vapman as it is also a conduction vape, with a great vape signature, but too harsh compared to VC. And more difficult to clean, especially the middle piece which gets soaked with resin after a while.

As for the bricks and such, I haven't tried but I have made something similar and these high airflow convection vapes literally destroy my throat, so...

 

[TiSteamo]

I would like for the next 20/4 to invest in a nice battery free vaporizer ... Lotus and stickybrick are in the viewfinder ... Maybe in the coming months will come out new ones?

 

[ataxian]

I have never tasted the butane with any of my Sticky Bricks.

IMO Sticky Bricks are perhaps the tastiest vapes out there for me. My mouth waters thinking about them.

Vapman tastes very good but doesn't have the power of the SBL lineup.

I'm not a fan of the Lithe however. Big clouds but the taste is not the greatest. I still have one but it doesn't get much use. Although I do whip it out occasionally.

I don’t know very much compared to most here?
I personally like the bowl size on the LOTUS?
Don’t really use it as much as one should?

POWER is ideal for me!
B or P

Most like gold Rolex’s, mine is Stainless?
I was told to pick?

 

[ibnganja]

I have been using a 2019M dynavap, which then led to me getting an omni xl. i also have a lotus.... and I think the lotus is under-rated, i don't hear about it too often, but it's the absolute best for purity of taste!! Nothing comes close to the lotus for TRULY TASTING your bud. get a dynavap and a lotus and you can't go wrong

 

[bossman]

I would like for the next 20/4 to invest in a nice battery free vaporizer ... Lotus and stickybrick are in the viewfinder ... Maybe in the coming months will come out new ones?

For anyone wondering, this thread should be us answering our friend @TiSteamo who opted to piggyback an old thread about a similar choice.

I haven't tried the Lotus but my og Sticky Brick is is my hardest hitting vape and the hits are super flavorful. Combustion is not a concern with the restrictor disk installed and the side intake can be added for brute force fast hits with a triple torch.

The og Brick is also the fastest portable I own. You can vape a Mighty worth in three big smooth hits if you want to.

 

[Scuba Steve Tokes]

Hey all. Got bit by the butane bug recently. Have an Omni and an M18. Would like to add another to the mix that's a different experience.

thanks for posting this thread dodgy_b! I was researching the Vapman when I discovered it and it has been very helpful.

wondering if you decided on any of these vapes or stuck with your DynaVaps.

I was recently bit by the butane bug too. Power outages in parts of the US made me think about if the power goes out and I picked up a 2020M and a HydroBrick on Puffitup as they are both the cheapest I’ve seen them. One for ease of use and portability, the other to provide quick and overwhelming therapeutic benefits a.k.a to melt my face off. I vape for severe nerve pain relief now more so than anything else but I still find joy in it.

 

[DonMarteng]

Oh man what a great comparison!
For me the ranking of these 3 Vapes is very close but they do have some differences.

Vapman: Sexy af, will last a lifetime, small whispy clouds, Almost best taste, strongest HIGH out of the 3 for sure

Lotus: Great with glass (J-Hooks and small bubblers), Best flavour!, needs a powerful reliable lighter (more than the others)

SB: Junior is my fav size, OG is just too wonky, taste good but not great (wood note present), huge clouds, devastating effects, direct Butane inhalation (supposed to be safe but still a difference)

All 3 of these have a considerable learning curve, but thats what makes them so good!
When you really wanna treat yourself in that special little vapespace thats when these come to use.
I use the Vapman 80% of the time but I like all 3 and I wouldnt wanna give any of these away.
The Vapman has a special signature that just no other vape can deliver with such small amounts, no matter if I use a lighter or the station.
To anyone still reading just grab all 3 and test for yourself

 

[hoptimum]

Vapman vs sbj I can comment on. I haven't yet figured out my vapman, last time I tried I think I ended up vaping the bud in my dynavap. The sbj I got pleasant results on my first bowls. It's quite nice but not really portable.

I also have trouble getting consistent results from the Vapman. Of the 3, the Sticky Brick is the easiest to learn, IMO, and is my favorite on demand vape these days. The Lotus flavor is better, but the technique is very specific.

 

[Scuba Steve Tokes]

The Vapman has a special signature that just no other vape can deliver with such small amounts, no matter if I use a lighter or the station.

I’m always signature hunting which is why the Vapman originally drew my attention. I’m trying to find a really heavy body stone because that is the kind of high that helps my nerve pain the most. Indicas have always been my favorite though.

After reading through this thread I was favoring the Lotus over the Vapman but your comment about the signature has it back in the running. I can forgive basically all downsides of a vape if it has a special signature I enjoy.

 

[DonMarteng]

Hmm its a tough one and very personal in my opinion.
The Lotus is easier to learn and to use and it will deliver most of the times the same result.
After a week of good use you will get the hang of it and not have a lot of variables anymore.
The Vapman on the other hand takes weeks to master, at least it took me weeks.
But the journey was far more enjoyable and the vape feels a bit more unique cause of that.
I like to use it during the day, be high af but not seem like it at all, thats where the vapman shines.
Regarding your post about the body stone a (sorry) Sticky Brick might be the best option as you feel knocked out right after.
The Vapman sits more in the back of the head like a little grinch and it likes to stay there for longer times.
More a strong Sativa buzz maybe?
Quite hard to describe signatures with words
If youre deciding between the VM and the Lotus get the Vapman for dry use only and the Lotus if you plan on using it with lots of bubblers or other glass pieces.
But if youre the strong indica guy that needs a heavy punch its Sticky Brick all the way!

 

[invertedisdead]

I’m trying to find a really heavy body stone

I would honestly suggest edibles if you’re not on an edible regiment already. Vaping is great and very fast acting, but for nerve pain, most patients I speak with have better results with edibles, or a combination of the two.

 

[shopdognyc]

I have all and want to say all of them but the Lotus may eventually go extinct and would grab that first.

Vapman are still available through @VGOODIEZ and maybe direct later. Sticky Bricks, Oconnells, Jetdryv, Nova are all available.